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April 15, 2019, 12:25:38 PM

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The view is better than the picture does it justice. There are better seats in the stadium but there are a lot worse. I pay approx £50 per game.

On topic - Regarding Elwar, I feel sorry for him if they restrict where he can live etc but it’s a bit weird any way imo. Why would you want to live there regardless of any tax breaks/avoidance etc.

He’s rich AF. I’m sure he could buy a beautiful house on land & create bogus companies to enable some kind of tax avoidance. Good luck to him but I dunno, was kinda dumb to begin with.
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April 15, 2019, 12:26:39 PM
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I'm just going to leave this here :

Seasteader in legal troubles, platform to be removed......

https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1661300/seastead-couple-in-crosshairs

Edit: He's possibly in very big trouble here if they proceed with the charges as mentioned.

Highly unfortunate development. I thought Elwar had tacit approval or acquiescence for the seastead. I wonder where the disconnect is.

i think he was counting on "flying under the radar" on this one.  might be wrong though. definitely sucks but without some sort of formal agreement in place it was bound to happen sooner or later.

easy enough to tow to top unit somewhere else but the spar would be harder. might be easier to just sink it. coral will grow on it (already has some i believe) and its just another part of the seabed ecology at that point, so it not pollution. i believe they would have to notify some authority or other that they sunk it with the details of what it is, where etc.

anyway hes proved the point that can be done. not many can say that abount a whole new tech. pioneers always expect setbacks. im sure elwar will take it in stride and move on.

that penalty. man. doesnt leave much room for negotiation does it. gotta look up that law, im sure its so draconian for a reason, at least back then when it was passed.

stay safe elwar! looking forward to updates.
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April 15, 2019, 12:38:21 PM
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On topic - Regarding Elwar, I feel sorry for him if they restrict where he can live etc but it’s a bit weird any way imo. Why would you want to live there regardless of any tax breaks/avoidance etc.

He’s rich AF. I’m sure he could buy a beautiful house on land & create bogus companies to enable some kind of tax avoidance. Good luck to him but I dunno, was kinda dumb to begin with.

Was it a tax thing for him though? I thought it was more of an ideology thing. And if so, governments are very corrupt, I can understand him trying to remove himself from their influence. Not what I would do, I prefer to stay and fight, but I absolutely support him.

I very much hope he and his wife are well, and can get themselves out of any trouble.
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April 15, 2019, 12:54:49 PM

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April 15, 2019, 01:11:21 PM

I'm just going to leave this here :

Seasteader in legal troubles, platform to be removed......

https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1661300/seastead-couple-in-crosshairs

Edit: He's possibly in very big trouble here if they proceed with the charges as mentioned.

Highly unfortunate development. I thought Elwar had tacit approval or acquiescence for the seastead. I wonder where the disconnect is.

i think he was counting on "flying under the radar" on this one.  might be wrong though. definitely sucks but without some sort of formal agreement in place it was bound to happen sooner or later.

easy enough to tow to top unit somewhere else but the spar would be harder. might be easier to just sink it. coral will grow on it (already has some i believe) and its just another part of the seabed ecology at that point, so it not pollution. i believe they would have to notify some authority or other that they sunk it with the details of what it is, where etc.

anyway hes proved the point that can be done. not many can say that abount a whole new tech. pioneers always expect setbacks. im sure elwar will take it in stride and move on.

that penalty. man. doesnt leave much room for negotiation does it. gotta look up that law, im sure its so draconian for a reason, at least back then when it was passed.

stay safe elwar! looking forward to updates.
I don't think they can kill or imprison him without fear of America stepping in. He was wanting to have a peaceful retirement but those corrupt countries wouldn't allow that.
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The Thais recently threatened the death penalty to people taking selfies in front of planes taking off.

You can also be jailed for disrespecting the king there by stomping on his face when your banknote is caught by the wind.
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As far as I understand this scenario, its for tourist's own safety. The tourists do dumb things all the time just for some cheap excitement. The death penalty does sound extreme tho. On another hand, western media exaggerate the news quite a bit when it comes to Asian countries I am sure if you follow the local news there would be a different angle on the very same news. 90% that's a case.

Thai's royalties especially kings considered God there. people literally worship them and they have blind faith in them.

Happy Bengali New year bro. is this a "Choka" along with fish?

Yes, brother It very testy If you ever visit our country I'll feed you this food  Wink

Thanks, Dada, I have been to Dhaka once, I have a couple of friends who live in Cox Bazar. never visited there but would love to go there sometime. I have many Bihari and Bengali friends and as you know already "Choka" is go to dish for Biharis. I am Indian ( Kashmiri by birth)

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The view is better than the picture does it justice. There are better seats in the stadium but there are a lot worse. I pay approx £50 per game.


Yeah, tell me about that, have personally experienced bad seats in games Cheesy - seats behind the random pillar- lol

About @Elwar : This is bad news but I am sure he can get away with this situation with bribing tbh every system has some kind of loopholes. Just hope for the best.
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The Thais recently threatened the death penalty to people taking selfies in front of planes taking off.

You can also be jailed for disrespecting the king there by stomping on his face when your banknote is caught by the wind.
....

As far as I understand this scenario, its for tourist's own safety. The tourists do dumb things all the time just for some cheap excitement. The death penalty does sound extreme tho. On another hand, western media exaggerate the news quite a bit when it comes to Asian countries I am sure if you follow the local news there would be a different angle on the very same news. 90% that's a case.

Thai's royalties especially kings considered God there. people literally worship them and they have blind faith in them.

Happy Bengali New year bro. is this a "Choka" along with fish?

Yes, brother It very testy If you ever visit our country I'll feed you this food  Wink

Thanks, Dada, I have been to Dhaka once, I have a couple of friends who live in Cox Bazar. never visited there but would love to go there sometime. I have many Bihari and Bengali friends and as you know already "Choka" is go to dish for Biharis. I am Indian ( Kashmiri by birth)

@JSRAW

The view is better than the picture does it justice. There are better seats in the stadium but there are a lot worse. I pay approx £50 per game.


Yeah, tell me about that, have personally experienced bad seats in games Cheesy - seats behind the random pillar- lol

About @Elwar : This is bad news but I am sure he can get away with this situation with bribing tbh every system has some kind of loopholes. Just hope for the best.

apparently he is well known on the subreddit of seastedding. Looks like he wasn't there when the military boarded the seastead. It seems like it's going to be impounded or destroyed, but it also seems Elwar is safe and sound, they linked his Facebook with a post discussing about how he was for a moment truly free.
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April 15, 2019, 01:35:12 PM

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April 15, 2019, 01:38:12 PM

It seems like it's going to be impounded or destroyed

WTF ?
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It seems like it's going to be impounded or destroyed

WTF ?
Yup, they're claiming it's in Thai territory and trying to steal land and make a soverign nation. I'm just happy Elwar seems to have gotten away, they probably would have tried to kill or imprison him for life.

I'm sure Elwar will be able to give the legitimate facts but this is what I'm understanding from the users on the seastead subreddit.
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This is less than an hour old.

 Statement from Chad Elwartowski:

PLEASE SHARE THIS POST OUR LIVES DEPEND ON IT

This is ridiculous. We lived on a floating house boat for a few weeks and now Thailand wants us killed.

We had to go underground because our contact warned us before this came out. Now we found out they are using a US submarine to hunt us. I'll say it right here.

Nadia and I did not design, construct or pay to have the seastead constructed. We promoted it and lived on it. We helped out by giving the builder updates and we participated in the launch. We did not decide where to put the seastead. We are enthusiastic supporters of the project who were lucky enough to be the first ones to stay on it.

Hunting us down to our death is just plain stupid and highlights exactly the reason someone would be willing to go out in middle of the ocean to get away from governments.

We never had any ill intentions and I even state plainly several times that I would not want to be a citizen of any seastead nation that would have me. We were hoping to bring tourism to Phuket with an underwater restaurant, floating hotels and medical research, tech jobs, etc. We had 3 wealthy entrepreneurs in the past week tell us they were coming to live in Phuket because they were excited about the project. We love Thailand. Nadia is a proud Thai. She is a proud Buddhist who does not support violence. I am a pacifist who would not harm a fly.

What we need:

Lawyers or anyone high up in the administration in Thailand to talk some sense into your military leaders.

Someone high up in the US that can help. I need to be able to go to the US embassy in Bangkok or some place near Phuket to get me out of the country. I need ideas for helping Nadia, a Thai citizen. She needs an embassy in Bangkok where she can seek asylum.

Nadia is just my girlfriend. She played no role in planning anything with the seastead. She just took video and stayed on the seastead with me. E-mail me at elwartowski@protonmail . com if you can help (not just suggestions...serious help).

Neither Nadia nor I are suicidal. We would never in our wildest dreams commit suicide. I want to live to the ripe age of at least 200. I love life. We love life together. We just wanted to be free. If just for one day.
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April 15, 2019, 01:47:26 PM

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Did you get that from Elwar?

if yes then please post a link as well. Will share his post everywhere in my social media. Thanks, Bud

Linkedin, Quora, Art community, Twitter ...........
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It came from Reddit,

https://www.reddit.com/r/seasteading/comments/bdf1yv/ocean_builders_official_statement_about_the/

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Poor Elwar  Cry  Such a shame.
I hope this won't smash the dream or hit him too hard financially.  Dude is a an inspiration and I tip my hat to him for perusing liberty & sovereignty.  
Somehow I'm not surprised TPTB crashed the party so easily.  Guess you can't just step over the government no matter what loophole you exploit. Hoping he'll bounce from this and BTC will offer a much better opportunity soon.

Spar can be easily moved to new location. So yes ofcourse wee costs to set it in this place, but I am sure he will survive.





They accused Chad Andrew Elwartowski and his Thai wife, Supranee Thepdet, with an English alias of Nadia Summergirl, of breaching Section 119 of Criminal Code. The section concerns any acts that cause the country or parts of it to fall under the sovereignty of a foreign state or deterioration of the state's independence.



That part is a total bullshit. Whoever will try to prove this will have serious troubles.
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Poor Elwar  Cry  Such a shame.
I hope this won't smash the dream or hit him too hard financially.  Dude is a an inspiration and I tip my hat to him for perusing liberty & sovereignty.  
Somehow I'm not surprised TPTB crashed the party so easily.  Guess you can't just step over the government no matter what loophole you exploit. Hoping he'll bounce from this and BTC will offer a much better opportunity soon.

Spar can be easily moved to new location. So yes ofcourse wee costs to set it in this place, but I am sure he will survive.





They accused Chad Andrew Elwartowski and his Thai wife, Supranee Thepdet, with an English alias of Nadia Summergirl, of breaching Section 119 of Criminal Code. The section concerns any acts that cause the country or parts of it to fall under the sovereignty of a foreign state or deterioration of the state's independence.



That part is a total bullshit. Whoever will try to prove this will have serious troubles.
It seems like it's already in the process of being destroyed.
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Coin Desk: LedgerX Reveals Bid to Beat Bakkt to Physical Bitcoin Futures Launch

https://www.coindesk.com/ledgerx-reveals-bid-to-beat-bakkt-to-physical-bitcoin-futures-launch

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This is less than an hour old.

 Statement from Chad Elwartowski:

PLEASE SHARE THIS POST OUR LIVES DEPEND ON IT

This is ridiculous. We lived on a floating house boat for a few weeks and now Thailand wants us killed.

We had to go underground because our contact warned us before this came out. Now we found out they are using a US submarine to hunt us. I'll say it right here.

Nadia and I did not design, construct or pay to have the seastead constructed. We promoted it and lived on it. We helped out by giving the builder updates and we participated in the launch. We did not decide where to put the seastead. We are enthusiastic supporters of the project who were lucky enough to be the first ones to stay on it.

Hunting us down to our death is just plain stupid and highlights exactly the reason someone would be willing to go out in middle of the ocean to get away from governments.

We never had any ill intentions and I even state plainly several times that I would not want to be a citizen of any seastead nation that would have me. We were hoping to bring tourism to Phuket with an underwater restaurant, floating hotels and medical research, tech jobs, etc. We had 3 wealthy entrepreneurs in the past week tell us they were coming to live in Phuket because they were excited about the project. We love Thailand. Nadia is a proud Thai. She is a proud Buddhist who does not support violence. I am a pacifist who would not harm a fly.

What we need:

Lawyers or anyone high up in the administration in Thailand to talk some sense into your military leaders.

Someone high up in the US that can help. I need to be able to go to the US embassy in Bangkok or some place near Phuket to get me out of the country. I need ideas for helping Nadia, a Thai citizen. She needs an embassy in Bangkok where she can seek asylum.

Nadia is just my girlfriend. She played no role in planning anything with the seastead. She just took video and stayed on the seastead with me. E-mail me at elwartowski@protonmail . com if you can help (not just suggestions...serious help).

Neither Nadia nor I are suicidal. We would never in our wildest dreams commit suicide. I want to live to the ripe age of at least 200. I love life. We love life together. We just wanted to be free. If just for one day.
Going to break etiquette and essentially bump my own post to the newest page.

Elwar is one of our own and I want to make sure people see his post and help if they can or at the very least know that he is for the moment being safe.
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April 15, 2019, 02:11:44 PM

Hello WO,
BTC is still over $5K (precisely $5,145). Good to see that. I hope it stay over this $5k level although there are some probabilities to be around $4.8k.

Pros are now slightly net negative, Institutions covered some losses, & Retail is alone on Bull Island

This data is always delayed, but, this alone gives the impression that we will either set a Bull trap on a HH or double top

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