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July 15, 2019, 03:32:43 PM

It looks like we've just bounced from the double bottom at 10K. Let's go to 11-12K as quickly as possible.  Cool  


P.S. Do you remember, when 5 months earlier some of us thought 3100 wasn't the bottom  Cheesy How would this 10K bottom sounded in our ears then - an impossible dream. So there is absolutely no reason to be unhappy!

Funny how sentiments about price can change so much in such a short period of time.

I am still hesitant to conclude that we have seen the last of 4 digit bitcoins...

Maybe we need to wait for a JSRAW proclamation?

Waiting........

Waiting........


It looks like we've just bounced from the double bottom at 10K. Let's go to 11-12K as quickly as possible.  Cool  


P.S. Do you remember, when 5 months earlier some of us thought 3100 wasn't the bottom  Cheesy How would this 10K bottom sounded in our ears then - an impossible dream. So there is absolutely no reason to be unhappy!
10,800 is the minimum level I'm expecting for days end, expecting 11,100 in reality after the dust settles.

Waiting........

Waiting........
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July 15, 2019, 03:49:14 PM

If bitcoin goes below $9000, Trump will probably quote retweet his last bitcoin tweet and say something more stupid and childish about bitcoin.

well to be fair, even if it goes up he will retweet that last tweet and say something more stupid and childish about bitcoin.

after all tweeting stupid and childish things seems to be a hobby of his.

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orange coin good Wink lol

Surprised that there's no meme on "orange man says orange coin bad".
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Trump should go back to the orange country he came from
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July 15, 2019, 04:16:47 PM

The uncut video of the debate between Nouriel Roubini and Arthur Hayes had just been released

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Alright, we had our fun trolling. Special thanks to @Nouriel for nailing his part by melting down over this past week. We couldn't have scripted it better.

Here's the full uncut debate with @CryptoHayes vs @Nouriel with @afneil as referee:


https://youtu.be/qlZukhN_C6c


https://twitter.com/BitMEXdotcom/status/1150769787435397127

I dunno, the Roubini guy seems like he'd be a powerful crypto booster if he ever gets to the point that he understands the technological impact of blockchain, whereas the Hayes guy seems kind of like a used car salesman. I don't share Roubini's pessimistic view of crypto (obviously) but it seems kind of stupid to dismiss his words out of hand, the man has spent his life studying markets.
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July 15, 2019, 04:20:56 PM

Trump should go back to the orange country he came from

You mean the Netherlands?  or southern France??

 
doesn't seem so bad
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July 15, 2019, 04:24:36 PM

Trump should go back to the orange country he came from
You mean the Netherlands?  or southern France??

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July 15, 2019, 04:43:59 PM

18-day high in price!  Go Bitcoin!
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July 15, 2019, 04:45:30 PM

Trump should go back to the orange country he came from
You mean the Netherlands?  or southern France??

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You mean Noo Joizee?
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July 15, 2019, 04:48:07 PM

As per the rules of gentlemanly decorum I hereby take leave of the Wall Observer thread for the next week.

Do try and keep it under 100 pages while I'm gone lads, not looking forward to the catch up.

I am, however, very much looking forward to spending some quality time puttering around the shop with my elderly father.

cheers chaps,

Sounds a good idea.  Taking time to have times to remember, while it's still possible.

Enjoy.

p.s. can't make promises about page numbers to catch on, this is the WO after all.
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July 15, 2019, 04:49:12 PM

^Good lord.
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July 15, 2019, 04:52:55 PM

50-day SMA : 2017 vs 2019 overlay.

Smoother ride this time.



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July 15, 2019, 04:55:30 PM

Trump should go back to the orange country he came from

https://twitter.com/tt_cube/status/1060557030195388416
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July 15, 2019, 04:58:00 PM

Oh no, not again...
Not another Bruce Lee quote!
We have bottomed out.

#haiku

But Bruce didn't consider Oxbow lakes!   


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July 15, 2019, 04:59:27 PM

The uncut video of the debate between Nouriel Roubini and Arthur Hayes had just been released

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Alright, we had our fun trolling. Special thanks to @Nouriel for nailing his part by melting down over this past week. We couldn't have scripted it better.

Here's the full uncut debate with @CryptoHayes vs @Nouriel with @afneil as referee:


https://youtu.be/qlZukhN_C6c


https://twitter.com/BitMEXdotcom/status/1150769787435397127

I dunno, the Roubini guy seems like he'd be a powerful crypto booster if he ever gets to the point that he understands the technological impact of blockchain, whereas the Hayes guy seems kind of like a used car salesman. I don't share Roubini's pessimistic view of crypto (obviously) but it seems kind of stupid to dismiss his words out of hand, the man has spent his life studying markets.

tech impact of blockchain?? so far i have seen only a scam impact both ways (shitcoins and "blockchain-not-bitcoin" scams). the only tech a blockchain seems useful is money = bitcoin. this nouriel guy is a bitcoin hater from day one. waste of time imho.
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July 15, 2019, 05:01:02 PM

Have you never seen Dragons Den.

This is the episode where they all laugh at your ludicrous valuation and point out you don't have anything of value.

At least the contestants on Dragons Den fully understand the power play: they have no power/money and they have to convince the powerful/rich to fund them.

So that means you have to convince us. We have stated what we need to be convinced that this community is worthy of our work.

It is us who created the Power Play of today and we live with it constantly.

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July 15, 2019, 05:06:23 PM

It looks like we've just bounced from the double bottom at 10K. Let's go to 11-12K as quickly as possible.  Cool  


P.S. Do you remember, when 5 months earlier some of us thought 3100 wasn't the bottom  Cheesy How would this 10K bottom sounded in our ears then - an impossible dream. So there is absolutely no reason to be unhappy!

Funny how sentiments about price can change so much in such a short period of time.

I am still hesitant to conclude that we have seen the last of 4 digit bitcoins...

Maybe we need to wait for a JSRAW proclamation?

Waiting........

Waiting........


It looks like we've just bounced from the double bottom at 10K. Let's go to 11-12K as quickly as possible.  Cool  


P.S. Do you remember, when 5 months earlier some of us thought 3100 wasn't the bottom  Cheesy How would this 10K bottom sounded in our ears then - an impossible dream. So there is absolutely no reason to be unhappy!
10,800 is the minimum level I'm expecting for days end, expecting 11,100 in reality after the dust settles.

Waiting........

Waiting........
Looking more and more like a reality, less than $200 away now.
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July 15, 2019, 05:12:09 PM

The uncut video of the debate between Nouriel Roubini and Arthur Hayes had just been released

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Alright, we had our fun trolling. Special thanks to @Nouriel for nailing his part by melting down over this past week. We couldn't have scripted it better.

Here's the full uncut debate with @CryptoHayes vs @Nouriel with @afneil as referee:


https://youtu.be/qlZukhN_C6c


https://twitter.com/BitMEXdotcom/status/1150769787435397127

I dunno, the Roubini guy seems like he'd be a powerful crypto booster if he ever gets to the point that he understands the technological impact of blockchain, whereas the Hayes guy seems kind of like a used car salesman. I don't share Roubini's pessimistic view of crypto (obviously) but it seems kind of stupid to dismiss his words out of hand, the man has spent his life studying markets.

For being so supposedly smart, Roubini comes off as a fucking emotionally out of control presenter.  Whether he does it on purpose or not, he does not even seem to try to contain himself from getting emotional about his various repetitive and mostly nonsense talking points.

Hayes allows himself to play into Roubini's baloney, so I think that Hayes would have presented better if he had not played around so much, but that would not be Hayes... Hayes is a smart guy who does not mind having some fun, but the having fun seems to interfere, sometimes, with the points that Hayes could be making in a better way.
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Do try and keep it under 100 pages while I'm gone lads, not looking forward to the catch up.

JSRAW will do a recap for you.
100 pages is nothing for him.  Grin
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July 15, 2019, 05:41:48 PM

50-day SMA : 2017 vs 2019 overlay.

Smoother ride this time.



Bitcoin no doesn't do "smooth."

You might get a bit more "smooth" after bitcoin's market cap becomes higher than the market cap of gold, but still no guarantees of "smooth", even after that because:        wait..... wait for it.... wait......... :      bitcoin.


By the way, bitcoin will reach gold's market cap after about another 35x in it's unit price to about $350k per BTC, ... or if we use our $4,200 bouncing off price as the base jumping off point, then that would be a bit more than an 80x increase from $4,200, which would be a similar bounce from our earlier 2015-2017 bubble, if we were to count $250-ish as our 2015 bouncing off point.

Surely, gold's market cap is reachable, even in this next upcoming bubble, but to me, such a $350k BTC price seems far from sustainable in any kind of short to medium term timeframe, which means that it is quite likely that bitcoin prices will take at least a couple of upwards price bubbles before bitcoin really might have a decent and reasonable potential chance to start to "smoothen" out. 

I am not as confident as McAfee in terms of timeframe or that two bubbles is possible in the next year or two in order to get above $350k per coin and even if so to reach a kind of stability above that $350k price point in anything approaching the near term or even in less than 8 years, and surely we might need even up to three upwards BTC price bubbles in order to get there and to have some stability or smoothness, which could take us to around 8 years (which would be about two more halvenings) before BTC prices are stablely over $350k and thereby somewhat "smoother" on somer kind of decent and reasonable comfortable ride kind of level.

On the other hand, who the fuck needs smooth, especially when it is not likely to happen anyhow.. Why wish for something that is not really reasonably likely to happen at any time reasonably in the short or medium term future, when the BTC price dynamics ride is mostly UP, anyhow?

I would say for anyone, and this comment is not just directed at you Phil_S, just learn the fuck how to manage the peaks and troughs of BTC's most likely price dynamics a bit better in order that you can take advantage of the most likely scenario in the coming 8-10 years, which is most likely  to play out as "unsmooth" and UPpity price movements. 

Should be possible to both plan for unsmooth and UPpity and to profit immensely from that most likely scenario, without getting too greedy, no?  Seems like we are given a kind of gift here with bitcoin, even though it is NOT smooth nor likely to be smooth.

Bitcoin's medium term trajectory in the next 4-10 years, is somewhat predictable, and that is continuing to be volatile as fuck and mostly in the upwards direction.  How the fuck can you lose, if you play your cards right without gambling on short-term phoney baloney, or shit coins or other distractions, like a dumb and compulsive diptwat  (speaking generally, here, and not referring to you specifically Phil_S)?    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Bitcoin seems to be about as close to a sure bet that you could ever be given in life, no?  Ways to take advantage of such, no?  If you have enough patience to play this baby out for the longer term, then you could be prosperous in a short time horizon, but if you have enough patience to attempt to play it out in 8-10 years, then you are likely to be even more secure - even if along the way, you are not too likely to experience any kind of meaningful nor significant levels of "smooth."
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July 15, 2019, 05:51:15 PM
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https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1150821533239119872

Ten minutes to either stock up or run for the exits.

The treasury secretary is going to give an erotic press conference about crypto regulation. I presume this'll be more Libra bashing than anything else but you never know.
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