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July 19, 2019, 09:29:22 AM

@LFC : I am feeling like smarty pants not cashing out my salary  Grin
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Attention my man attention! 🤪

You are looking at the avatar only 😜

Okay Bhai, don't want to question your judgement. so i take the blame politely.  Tongue

But I was referring to LFC. We were having small talk about this before.  Wink
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July 19, 2019, 09:34:25 AM


Okay Bhai, don't want to question your judgement. so i take the blame politely.  Tongue

But I was referring to LFC. We were having small talk about this before.  Wink
Oh! apologies, apologies. 🙂
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#bitcoin 2012 Stock-to-flow model still works!

From what I see this graph shows only 8000$ at the end of 2017 when there was already a 20000$ price. Today if I can see correctly this should be already around 25 - 30K USD for single BTC.

Still, it could be a good prediction in a very long term, which is a million $$$ for single BTC in the 2025 year and if one doesn't look too much into details.

This is a model based on the SF/price BEFORE the first halving.
It's a loose indication, with market price being driven by more "short term" forces.
Nice thing is that historically model undervalued the price by 300% (market price was triple the model value) but never overestimated market price by 100% (market price was never below 50% of model value).

So, basically, model value is sort of, conservative estimate of market price.


Exact.
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July 19, 2019, 09:40:44 AM

Odds that we have left 4 figures behind forever:

Today:  10%
1 October: 30%
1 November: 50%
1 April 2020: 60%
1 November 2020: 70%
1 April 2021: 80%
1 November 2021: 90%

So this is what I see:

Today:  $10,610
1 October: $13,793
1 November: $20,689.5
1 April 2020: $33,103.2
1 November 2020: $56,275.4
1 April 2021: $101,295.7
1 November 2021: $192,462

Weeeeeeeeeeeeee

Most of us will probably be dead from too many hookers, too much cocaine or a Lambo crash before November 2021 Cheesy

Seriously though, I didn’t ever imagine in my wildest dreams those prices would be possible when I started buying in 2015.
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July 19, 2019, 09:43:40 AM

Ouch:
*U.S. REGULATOR PROBING CRYPTO EXCHANGE BITMEX ON CLIENT TRADES

Just rewind a few days ago:
 WAS BITMEX ‘AGAIN’ BEHIND THE LATEST BITCOIN FLASH CRASH?

And yesterday opposite move, a huge jump in minutes.

 Exchanges under fire after suspicious ETH crash and today’s BTC spike

Apparently nobody cares about market manipulation, as Bitcoin isn't even a financial instrument. The point is KYC/AML.
https://twitter.com/HASHCIB/status/1152137255936503808?s=20
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2/“The months-long #CFTC probe is focused on whether BitMEX broke rules by allowing Americans to trade on the platform, which isn’t registered with the agency, said one of the people who asked not to be named discussing the investigation, which hasn’t been made public.”
There is also a small article on cointelegraph about this "breaking" news  
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bloomberg-us-regulator-investigating-bitmex-for-allowing-americans-to-trade
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CFTC wants to know if Americans using BitMEX
According to sources citing people familiar with the matter speaking to Bloomberg, the CFTC suspects that BitMEX, which is registered in the Seychelles, allowed U.S. residents to use its platform to trade.

Under current law, the U.S. is one of the countries excluded from using BitMEX and similar crypto-based financial services, but users may have sought to circumvent the geoblock using services such as VPNs.
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July 19, 2019, 09:46:33 AM

Ouch:
*U.S. REGULATOR PROBING CRYPTO EXCHANGE BITMEX ON CLIENT TRADES

Just rewind a few days ago:
 WAS BITMEX ‘AGAIN’ BEHIND THE LATEST BITCOIN FLASH CRASH?

And yesterday opposite move, a huge jump in minutes.

 Exchanges under fire after suspicious ETH crash and today’s BTC spike

Apparently nobody cares about market manipulation, as Bitcoin isn't even a financial instrument. The point is KYC/AML.
https://twitter.com/HASHCIB/status/1152137255936503808?s=20
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2/“The months-long #CFTC probe is focused on whether BitMEX broke rules by allowing Americans to trade on the platform, which isn’t registered with the agency, said one of the people who asked not to be named discussing the investigation, which hasn’t been made public.”
There is also a small article on cointelegraph about this "breaking" news 
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bloomberg-us-regulator-investigating-bitmex-for-allowing-americans-to-trade

They pulled an article from my post! Wink
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July 19, 2019, 09:53:40 AM


Most of us will probably be dead from too many hookers, too much cocaine or a Lambo crash before November 2021 Cheesy

Seriously though, I didn’t ever imagine in my wildest dreams those prices would be possible when I started buying in 2015.
Back in those days, very few people thought that the price will even hit $1K.
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Most of us will probably be dead from too many hookers, too much cocaine or a Lambo crash before November 2021 Cheesy

Seriously though, I didn’t ever imagine in my wildest dreams those prices would be possible when I started buying in 2015.
Back in those days, very few people thought that the price will even hit $1K.
It was more about the tech and being ideological back when the price was low, or maybe that's how I just took it.
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July 19, 2019, 10:38:18 AM

Back in those days, very few people thought that the price will even hit $1K.

I remember in late 2014 after spending 5 figures (in GBP) on bitcoin being absolutely devastated, I was in about 60% losses based on my investment at that point.

If only I had a crystal ball then I would have put even more fiat in Smiley

I hope we see the kind of prices, 6 figures per coin etc that are mentioned here:)
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July 19, 2019, 10:38:58 AM

When you go outside and see women walking down the sidewalk, every single one has a cell phone in their hand looking at it no matter if they're jogging, walking the dog, anything. The meme is that male nerds use the internet the most, yet it's actually women that are the biggest internet zombies.  

Can confirm, went outside once.  

Also glued to phones even when they are with their own kids, if they have any.  
Seems like there is always some trend which sucks them in to waste their precious time, recent one being "FaceApp" apparently. Something like when you put baby in front of TV then they can't take their eyes off it. Ironically, they laugh at that infant behavior.

Joseph Tantor-style overspecialization

Who/what is that?


The internet highly contributes to globalization. Overspecialization leads to collapse back to the dark ages.  Regional redundancy is required for that not to happen, and for any economy to exist at all where 90% of people aren't eventually unemployed giving you insane civil unrest and collapse as well.  

Perhaps, but what do you propose then? It seems that nuking the Internet is not one of the scenarios about to play out.
What changes with that regard could have benefits on a country level, a firewall? National intranets? I presume you can't just shut down the whole Internet and not expect chaos.

Then you have the social effects where things like Tinder alone would probably cause the collapse of civilization.  Female hypergamy is only limited by their roaming radius and things like Tinder give them infinite roaming radius. In the old days it wasn't as big of an issue because her only other option might be the 70 year old town blacksmith or something.  But now the woman believes her options are infinite and they use that as leverage where the second you stop bending over backwards to be their court jester entertainment and work mule servant, then they're taking off with 50% of your stuff anyway.  There is no reason for a man to invest in any woman in such a scenario, and thus things like MGTOW were born.

True, but it's not going away anytime soon, so better look for a workaround such as finding a local community which condemns Tinders and divorces then you increase your chances to not find yourself in such situations. Besides, who wants to be a MGTOW loser?


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July 19, 2019, 10:57:03 AM

True, but it's not going away anytime soon, so better look for a workaround such as finding a local community which condemns Tinders and divorces then you increase your chances to not find yourself in such situations. Besides, who wants to be a MGTOW loser?

Incels have always existed, its just now there's a name for their condition. Back in my day it was just called being a nerd or a dork, and then the big day comes when you get laid, and you move up a notch in society, being able to somewhat relate with the rest of sexually-active humanity.

Roach probably isn't 18 yet, so to him I say, life is long and don't worry. Once you go to college, you'll be exposed to women that are unironically interested in your misogynist viewpoints. They won't be the slightest bit attractive, but they're hoping that if you occasionally relent from your hatred of women just long enough to get to know them, you can both climb up the ladder from inceldom and femceldom together.
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Roach probably isn't 18 yet, so to him I say, life is long and don't worry. Once you go to college, you'll be exposed to women that are unironically interested in your misogynist viewpoints. They won't be the slightest bit attractive, but they're hoping that if you occasionally relent from your hatred of women just long enough to get to know them, you can both climb up the ladder from inceldom and femceldom together.

I think r0ach is over 40 (at least over 30) because he double-spaces (unless double-space is standard for example in US military or something, or he's just being a clever kid, lol), so no college for him. So better we respect our elders when they try to teach us.
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July 19, 2019, 11:51:12 AM

True, but it's not going away anytime soon, so better look for a workaround such as finding a local community which condemns Tinders and divorces then you increase your chances to not find yourself in such situations. Besides, who wants to be a MGTOW loser?

Incels have always existed, its just now there's a name for their condition. Back in my day it was just called being a nerd or a dork, and then the big day comes when you get laid, and you move up a notch in society, being able to somewhat relate with the rest of sexually-active humanity.

Roach probably isn't 18 yet, so to him I say, life is long and don't worry. Once you go to college, you'll be exposed to women that are unironically interested in your misogynist viewpoints. They won't be the slightest bit attractive, but they're hoping that if you occasionally relent from your hatred of women just long enough to get to know them, you can both climb up the ladder from inceldom and femceldom together.

If I was placing a bet I’d say he’s definitely over 40.
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July 19, 2019, 11:54:22 AM

She's not he!! @realJewishGirl
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If I was placing a bet I’d say he’s definitely over 40.

I know we're talking about him too much now, but his words are spoken from a viewpoint formed by a vast deficit in life experience and basically utter separation from the outside world. I doubt he has social interactions outside this forum.

There's a few people on the forum that I suspect are probably shut-ins - they can't leave the house for one reason or another - so their ideas of how the world functions are basically inbred. They've been overtraining their brain with the same narrow, self-ascribed data set, unable to absorb information that can't be gleaned from the internet or other media, creating severely inaccurate models of how society works in the process.

Its more pleasant to assume he's simply younger and inexperienced as opposed to being a fully formed human being that still acts this way.
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July 19, 2019, 12:39:35 PM

If I was placing a bet I’d say he’s definitely over 40.

I know we're talking about him too much now, but his words are spoken from a viewpoint formed by a vast deficit in life inexperience and basically utter separation from the outside world. I doubt he has social interactions outside this forum.

There's a few people on the forum that I suspect are probably shut-ins - they can't leave the house for one reason or another - so their ideas of how the world functions are basically inbred. They've been overtraining their brain with the same narrow, self-ascribed data set, unable to absorb information that can't be gleaned from the internet or other media, creating severely inaccurate models of how society works in the process.

Its more pleasant to assume he's simply younger and inexperienced as opposed to being a fully formed human being that still acts this way.

Interesting post that is, nutildah. Actually had my brain working for once!

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July 19, 2019, 01:49:58 PM

Price action of the last few hours is interesting, I wonder if it is a few whales playing against one another.
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July 19, 2019, 01:51:00 PM

Price action of the last few hours is interesting, I wonder if it is a few whales playing against one another.

It seems wanna go under 10k - 9.5..
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It seems wanna go under 10k - 9.5..

Yeah, has that feel to it, but as always it could go anyway. I honestly don't know what to make of it at the moment but not expecting a new run up yet though that is for sure. I would be happy with a few months of sideways action myself.
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July 19, 2019, 02:06:17 PM

Interesting post that is, nutildah. Actually had my brain working for once!

+2

Thanks, I think! That made me want to re-read it, and I found a typo.

Sure is quiet around the WO house tonight...

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