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July 18, 2019, 01:36:02 AM

Don’t worry about B1tUnl0ck3r

He had an unfortunate incident with the CIA and a tub of butter.  He hasn’t been the same since.


You will be fine. 

Oh wow, what did he do to get in such a horrible spot? And a tub of butter what horrifying torture that must of been lol...

Thank you Mr. HairyMacliary

Hello..

I have been searching this forum for a while now so how come this is the biggest thread in the whole forum? you are constantly posting speculations on the Bitcoin price?

ignore list ! bcz of what is this attitude !

Oh no, i did not mean any disrespect or whatsoever ! I just had no idea how to join this conversation then i randomly typed something... facepalm x2 & sweating bullets

Ignore the fucking retarded one who goes by the name B1tUnl0ck3r. 

At best, B1tUnl0ck3r is a contra-indicator, but most of the time, especially in recent days, he is rambling garbage and mumbo jumbo that is largely indecipherable. (Edit:  I see HairyMCbairy already mostly said this)

Regarding buying into bitcoin, you are never too late... .including getting started today.  There is an expression in bitcoinlandia that seems to be quite true, which is when is the best time to buy bitcoin, and the answer is that the best time to buy bitcoin is yesterday, but the second best time to buy bitcoin is today.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


You should consider your plan and dollar cost averaging is one way to get started into BTC, and attempting to front load is another way to get started. 

Those methods can be combined, but if you merely buy some BTC in order to get a stake in it, and then dollar cost average over 5-10 years, you are likely to be very prosperous by the end of such period... but of course you have to take responsibility for any decision that you make and to make sure that you are comfortable with whatever plan that you develop follow and tweak from time to time to conform with changes in your personal situation including cash flow, other investments, views on bitcoin, risk tolerance, timeline and your skills and talents involving how much time that you have for learning or practicing your skills towards bitcoin.

Just by coming to this thread, you are ahead of the game.  It takes a while to learn by experience, including setting up accounts, figuring out your cash flow issues and just not making mistakes by getting too emotional, getting into shitcoins or getting too impatient with attempts to get rich quick temptations.

Seems to me that the smartest of BTC investors (or maybe the most lucky) over time are ones who first engage in a learning and accumulation phase, and maybe as they learn they might figure out better and better ways to accumulate without taking too many risks and mostly buying and HODLing.

Once you accumulate enough BTC up to a certain level that you are comfortable, then you might engage in some more risky strategies including investigating to shit coins, to the extent that any might still exist by the time you largely have accumulated BTC up to a level that is comfortable for you.

Well i do not think he is retarded, he was right i did came in a bit harsh..

I wish i could buy any Bitcoins but we are really bankrupt.. we can barely buy food with chump change we have left when paying all the bills then the food and water... its harsh to take care of all family members with no salary. Lost my job 1 month ago in auto industry -.-"

But i will hustle to get some Bitcoin i think i can do it.. I would be willing to accept a job here if anyone knows for any !

I think i will be dead in 5-10 years lol not even joking. But i am willing to learn about this new technology and that some ..


Just by coming to this thread, you are ahead of the game.  It takes a while to learn by experience, including setting up accounts, figuring out your cash flow issues and just not making mistakes by getting too emotional, getting into shitcoins or getting too impatient with attempts to get rich quick temptations.

You are making me think that for once in my life i did a good decision xD which i hardly do hahah. Why go into shitcoins if they are called shit lol ?

Damn, i have a lot to learn here in this new space..

Thank you as well for your guidance !

Hello..

I have been searching this forum for a while now so how come this is the biggest thread in the whole forum? you are constantly posting speculations on the Bitcoin price?

ignore list ! bcz of what is this attitude !

Oh no, i did not mean any disrespect or whatsoever ! I just had no idea how to join this conversation then i randomly typed something... facepalm x2 & sweating bullets

for what is it worth i am sorry because i am not my self the past few weeks too many pressure on all ends

Grow some balls and tell B1tUnl0ck3r to go F**k himself  Grin

Your question is valid. After >24500 pages of posts it's good to ask what it is all about. Could have turned out into a strange tentacle stormtrooper Pr0n thread after so many posts...

The answer is "You are in the speculation section... we all have no clue... if we did we would be in the Economics section"


Well i should not be disrespectful to members here as a complete utter noob or idiot xD His hair probably has more braincells than my whole brain xDD

That is why i asked hh it is soo much pages and speculation, whahah a tentacle stormtrooper porn thread xDDD but i guess you have good people around so they delete stuff like this no?

I will take a look at that Economics section more detailed too

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Google authenticator BLOWS, that thing is a piece of shit and you don't have a recovery seed anymore.

Simple solution: Use Authy or something like that. Authy does allow you to back up your seed. Another option is to write down the seed when you sign up with a TOTP credential and stick it in your safe. Then you can re-enter it later if you need to.

SMS MFA is not too good anymore, I'd trust it to 25k or so accounts. 25 to 100k I would use TOTP (Google/MS/Whatever authenticator), above that I would use either Yubikey or a Trezor for auth.

Note: If they hack the core of a site they can get the seeds and get through your TOTP MFA. This is not possible with Yubikey.
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https://twitter.com/TrueCrypto28/status/1151235834106064896
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One panelist gets it:

https://youtu.be/9-ZTkCNW0w8?t=18948

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Note: If they hack the core of a site they can get the seeds and get through your TOTP MFA. This is not possible with Yubikey.
Sir, any link explaining in more detailed way how works youbikey?
Many thanks
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July 18, 2019, 03:01:57 AM

Who would have ever thunk, just a year ago or less that regular normies are going to start to get some real ideas about how bitcoin is different from the 2,000 plus shit coins and ICO snake oil salesman bullshit, including all shit coins, libra, ether, the bcashes, ripple or whatever other phoney baloneys are out their in btc wannabe status or sometimes like eth saying that they offer something different from btc, which ends up rising to the level of crap at best and scam in a worse case scenario.

I think in retrospect this Libra proposal is going to be looked back on as the thing that pushed Bitcoin over a particular hump. It has forced an awful lot of influential people to pause and consider what crypto actually is when they hadn't bothered before.

Throughout these hearings there's been a definite paucity of disdain for BTC.

Least expected bit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf1dym16poc

Very unexpected and great to see. Mr Davidson brings it.

I don't believe that the concept of bitcoin versus shitcoins was described very well in that clip, but at least, the overall sentiment remains, which I thought might come out - which is that shitcoins seem to have a lot more points of vulnerability, in part, due to their greater degrees of centralization.
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you guys or traders bitcoin is not good work
I find here or on the Internet people who share their lives a lot with this damn thing , This is very dangerous whatever the reasons
everyone should stop hold bitcoin
who have bitcoin became like a bee
Most websites in the Internet are fraudulent...to where??
bitcoin and crypto must crash and libra coin must be prevented
I hope Trump the US President will do thing seriously about this  damn currency of internet bitcoin And effect must appear in prices and Organization.... So the ants are organized only bitcoin
because bitcoin is bad To all family members on this planet Earth only The other planets do not have this dreaded hut bitcoin
sites News about bitcoin  should be closed
bitcoin is No longer Absolutely good and fit

TLDR = barota speaketh gobbledy gook.
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Google's 2FA is quite simple. It works by time, and changes every 30 seconds, spits out a 6 digit number. You have 10 backup codes and they are 8 digits. There's a slightly different formula to generate those and those backup codes don't really change unless you tell Google.

I don't use the official Google Authenticator app, there's a free open-source version made by Red Hat available in the Play Store.

There's also a browser based page I use on a separate offline computer.
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Google's 2FA is quite simple. It works by time, and changes every 30 seconds, spits out a 6 digit number. You have 10 backup codes and they are 8 digits. There's a slightly different formula to generate those and those backup codes don't really change unless you tell Google.

I don't use the official Google Authenticator app, there's a free open-source version made by Red Hat available in the Play Store.

There's also a browser based page I use on a separate offline computer.
So how to safe them?
people are said Google's 2FA great option for account security?
Example: Bittrex recommended Enable  Google's 2FA then 100BTC withdrawal limit other hands lower limit.
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Hello..

I have been searching this forum for a while now so how come this is the biggest thread in the whole forum? you are constantly posting speculations on the Bitcoin price?

ignore list ! bcz of what is this attitude !

Oh no, i did not mean any disrespect or whatsoever ! I just had no idea how to join this conversation then i randomly typed something... facepalm x2 & sweating bullets

Ignore the fucking retarded one who goes by the name B1tUnl0ck3r.  

At best, B1tUnl0ck3r is a contra-indicator, but most of the time, especially in recent days, he is rambling garbage and mumbo jumbo that is largely indecipherable. (Edit:  I see HairyMCbairy already mostly said this)

Regarding buying into bitcoin, you are never too late... .including getting started today.  There is an expression in bitcoinlandia that seems to be quite true, which is when is the best time to buy bitcoin, and the answer is that the best time to buy bitcoin is yesterday, but the second best time to buy bitcoin is today.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


You should consider your plan and dollar cost averaging is one way to get started into BTC, and attempting to front load is another way to get started.  

Those methods can be combined, but if you merely buy some BTC in order to get a stake in it, and then dollar cost average over 5-10 years, you are likely to be very prosperous by the end of such period... but of course you have to take responsibility for any decision that you make and to make sure that you are comfortable with whatever plan that you develop follow and tweak from time to time to conform with changes in your personal situation including cash flow, other investments, views on bitcoin, risk tolerance, timeline and your skills and talents involving how much time that you have for learning or practicing your skills towards bitcoin.

Just by coming to this thread, you are ahead of the game.  It takes a while to learn by experience, including setting up accounts, figuring out your cash flow issues and just not making mistakes by getting too emotional, getting into shitcoins or getting too impatient with attempts to get rich quick temptations.

Seems to me that the smartest of BTC investors (or maybe the most lucky) over time are ones who first engage in a learning and accumulation phase, and maybe as they learn they might figure out better and better ways to accumulate without taking too many risks and mostly buying and HODLing.

Once you accumulate enough BTC up to a certain level that you are comfortable, then you might engage in some more risky strategies including investigating to shit coins, to the extent that any might still exist by the time you largely have accumulated BTC up to a level that is comfortable for you.

Well i do not think he is retarded, he was right i did came in a bit harsh..

I wish i could buy any Bitcoins but we are really bankrupt.. we can barely buy food with chump change we have left when paying all the bills then the food and water... its harsh to take care of all family members with no salary. Lost my job 1 month ago in auto industry -.-"

But i will hustle to get some Bitcoin i think i can do it.. I would be willing to accept a job here if anyone knows for any !

I think i will be dead in 5-10 years lol not even joking. But i am willing to learn about this new technology and that some ..

O.k.  Well if you do not invest at all, then you are going to have a lot more difficulties profiting at all from bitcoin, except for the overall infrastructure and general system incentives that Bitcoin creates that will likely motivate all currencies to become more sound in their money practices.

Of course, with any investment, you have to make sure that your basic expenses are covered first, and you also have to have some liquid emergency funds available to make sure that you are not stressing or desperate about shortages of cash flow.. So Yeah, if you hardly have any cashflow than it is going to be more difficult for you to stack away value in bitcoins, whether merely $20 a month or whatever small amount might work in order to stack a side reserve in an asset that is quite likely to hold its value and to appreciate in value.

I understand that some people have a timeline that is even shorter than 5 years or they might consider that they could be dead in that amount of time, so in those circumstances their investment strategy might change including putting very little into bitcoin and maybe just keeping some money in cash.

I do accept that you have some challenging circumstances if you are having quite difficult times in stashing away any cash or value or an inability to save, so one of your first priorities might be to figure out how to increase your incoming cashflow and maybe even to reduce your outgoing cashflow, to the extent feasible.  Each person likely has measures that s/he can take to improve these matters or even figuring out ways to plan ahead, but if you get to a point of total exhaustion of methods to be able to create a savings plan into bitcoin, then I agree it is going to be harder for you to profit as much directly from bitcoin as compared with someone who is able to generate enough surplus cashflow in order to be able to stash some of the extra savings into bitcoin... even if it is only $20 a month or whatever is reasonably and feasibly possible without risking too much regarding maintaining a decent cash reserves for emergencies and for monthly expenses, food, water and shelter, as the most basic of needs.....
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Note: If they hack the core of a site they can get the seeds and get through your TOTP MFA. This is not possible with Yubikey.
Sir, any link explaining in more detailed way how works youbikey?
Many thanks

I linked to the below yubico.com website, earlier today.  Maybe that one is helpful?

When I got sim ported which also involved the hacker taking over some of my email accounts, the hacker also set up authy in my name (those fucks) because I had not set up authy.... It was quite a bit of a hassle to get that sorted out, but seems to be an advantage to attempt to stay on top of things including having some things set up in your name in order that hackers would not be able to do so after they have taken over your accounts.... .. so yeah, there are worse solutions that GA... and like was mentioned earlier, maybe setting up a Yubikey is an option too (https://www.yubico.com/).

I understand that some of these matters are complicated, but part of the responsibility of holding bitcoin and getting into this new fucking be your own bank crap is to do a bit more work to learn and to attempt to take decent and reasonable measures to protect your wealth... I can personally testify that losing bitcoins to hackers is not a good feeling... . especially if you work decently hard to stack your sats or whatever and spend a decent amount of time building, building and building, and with a few key strokes, fucking bitcoin transactions are not (currently) reversible.
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Libra poisoned the well.

It would almost certainly destabilize currencies and even countries if/when let loose.
Example: a country has NIRP...Libra does not...so, you sell local currency and pocket the % (of NIRP) every year; or, you are in a non G-7 country...you sell local currency and buy Libra (a basket is almost always better than a single one). India and Russia-first two large countries to ban Libra on day one, I think.

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.
If I was one of bitcoin leaders or code contributors (and I am not), I would greatly accelerate Lightning wallets development.
On a positive side, some in Congress (and not in Senate) seem to understand the difference between something that is decentralized and centralized.


What do you mean with "bitcoin leaders"?
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Libra poisoned the well.

It would almost certainly destabilize currencies and even countries if/when let loose.
Example: a country has NIRP...Libra does not...so, you sell local currency and pocket the % (of NIRP) every year; or, you are in a non G-7 country...you sell local currency and buy Libra (a basket is almost always better than a single one). India and Russia-first two large countries to ban Libra on day one, I think.

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.
If I was one of bitcoin leaders or code contributors (and I am not), I would greatly accelerate Lightning wallets development.
On a positive side, some in Congress (and not in Senate) seem to understand the difference between something that is decentralized and centralized.


What do you mean with "bitcoin leaders"?

opinion leaders, what else, bud.
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Libra poisoned the well.

It would almost certainly destabilize currencies and even countries if/when let loose.
Example: a country has NIRP...Libra does not...so, you sell local currency and pocket the % (of NIRP) every year; or, you are in a non G-7 country...you sell local currency and buy Libra (a basket is almost always better than a single one). India and Russia-first two large countries to ban Libra on day one, I think.

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.
If I was one of bitcoin leaders or code contributors (and I am not), I would greatly accelerate Lightning wallets development.
On a positive side, some in Congress (and not in Senate) seem to understand the difference between something that is decentralized and centralized.


What do you mean with "bitcoin leaders"?

opinion leaders, what else, bud.

You mean like political leaders.
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Libra poisoned the well.

It would almost certainly destabilize currencies and even countries if/when let loose.
Example: a country has NIRP...Libra does not...so, you sell local currency and pocket the % (of NIRP) every year; or, you are in a non G-7 country...you sell local currency and buy Libra (a basket is almost always better than a single one). India and Russia-first two large countries to ban Libra on day one, I think.

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.
If I was one of bitcoin leaders or code contributors (and I am not), I would greatly accelerate Lightning wallets development.
On a positive side, some in Congress (and not in Senate) seem to understand the difference between something that is decentralized and centralized.


What do you mean with "bitcoin leaders"?

opinion leaders, what else, bud.

You mean like political leaders.

no, the exact opposite...you are clearly not familiar with the term.
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Libra poisoned the well.

It would almost certainly destabilize currencies and even countries if/when let loose.
Example: a country has NIRP...Libra does not...so, you sell local currency and pocket the % (of NIRP) every year; or, you are in a non G-7 country...you sell local currency and buy Libra (a basket is almost always better than a single one). India and Russia-first two large countries to ban Libra on day one, I think.

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.
If I was one of bitcoin leaders or code contributors (and I am not), I would greatly accelerate Lightning wallets development.
On a positive side, some in Congress (and not in Senate) seem to understand the difference between something that is decentralized and centralized.


What do you mean with "bitcoin leaders"?

opinion leaders, what else, bud.

You mean like political leaders.

no, the exact opposite

So, the anarchist leaders.
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Libra poisoned the well.

It would almost certainly destabilize currencies and even countries if/when let loose.
Example: a country has NIRP...Libra does not...so, you sell local currency and pocket the % (of NIRP) every year; or, you are in a non G-7 country...you sell local currency and buy Libra (a basket is almost always better than a single one). India and Russia-first two large countries to ban Libra on day one, I think.

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.
If I was one of bitcoin leaders or code contributors (and I am not), I would greatly accelerate Lightning wallets development.
On a positive side, some in Congress (and not in Senate) seem to understand the difference between something that is decentralized and centralized.


What do you mean with "bitcoin leaders"?

opinion leaders, what else, bud.

How is your wait for sub $9k coins going bud?

Are you getting nervous, yet?

And, you also had suggested that you might be waiting for much lower prices.  Didn't you suggest $7.5k price area as a more deeper correction wave?

Regarding my earlier post, captured below.  I believe that I am in need to request an extension of time for our "imminent" momentum to re-visit supra $10k.  Another 24 hours could be enough, perhaps?  Should I give up on supra $10k?  Are we "going down, before up?"  just askin (sayin).    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy     Wink        Tongue

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Are we in concordance about anything?

I would like to be in concordance that it surely looks like we are imminently about to re-visit supra $10k.   The next hours seem to be critical.tm
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Libra poisoned the well.

It would almost certainly destabilize currencies and even countries if/when let loose.
Example: a country has NIRP...Libra does not...so, you sell local currency and pocket the % (of NIRP) every year; or, you are in a non G-7 country...you sell local currency and buy Libra (a basket is almost always better than a single one). India and Russia-first two large countries to ban Libra on day one, I think.

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.
If I was one of bitcoin leaders or code contributors (and I am not), I would greatly accelerate Lightning wallets development.
On a positive side, some in Congress (and not in Senate) seem to understand the difference between something that is decentralized and centralized.


What do you mean with "bitcoin leaders"?

opinion leaders, what else, bud.

How is your wait for sub $9k coins going bud?

Are you getting nervous, yet?

And, you also had suggested that you might be waiting for much lower prices.  Didn't you suggest $7.5k price area as a more deeper correction wave?

Regarding my earlier post, captured below.  I believe that I am in need to request an extension of time for our "imminent" momentum to re-visit supra $10k.  Another 24 hours could be enough, perhaps?  Should I give up on supra $10k?  Are we "going down, before up?"  just askin (sayin).    Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy     Wink        Tongue

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Are we in concordance about anything?

I would like to be in concordance that it surely looks like we are imminently about to re-visit supra $10k.   The next hours seem to be critical.tm

I would prefer to talk about the term "bitcoin leaders" not about "bitcoin price".
If you have any explanation?
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