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October 12, 2019, 02:45:23 PM

Segwit and LN and Schnorr are not BitCoin, for a very good reason.

You miss the real point.  Money is supposed to be a constant and unchanging.  Things like the noble metals (physical silver and gold) resist entropy.  Bitcoin FACILITATES entropy.  It's the #1 worst form of 'money' ever created.  If something starts out as some completely arbitrary abomination and randomly transforms into some other new, completely arbitrary abomination, it's obviously not fungible or money.

"Fungible" does not mean tumbling coins in some Albanian mixer to try and obfuscate outputs, it means the object has actual, inherent properties that don't mutate at random.  Fungibility is a requirement of money and no imaginary, digital shitcoin has it.  Physical metals are money and digital shitcoins are scam hoaxes pretending to have the traits of metals when they don't.

True, but it is just implicit. Bitcoin cannot be changed after Satoshi left. It is fraud to do so and keep the name.

Biggest shit was Segshit, and we had the biggest drop of btc in market share with that.

Hope we have biggest learning curve about money now.

True Bitcoin is better than any PM though
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October 12, 2019, 03:11:00 PM

I want him to answer why almost identical logos are not misleading. I am almost looking forward to his dancing, weaving, obfuscating bullshit. 

@jbreher (or anyone): what happened to the dragon logo it had at one point?

this one:

http://crypto.marketswiki.com/index.php?title=File:Bitcoin-cash-sv.jpg

from this site
http://crypto.marketswiki.com/index.php?title=Bitcoin_Cash_SV
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October 12, 2019, 03:16:29 PM

Segwit and LN and Schnorr are not BitCoin, for a very good reason.

You miss the real point.  Money is supposed to be a constant and unchanging.  Things like the noble metals (physical silver and gold) resist entropy.  Bitcoin FACILITATES entropy.  It's the #1 worst form of 'money' ever created.  If something starts out as some completely arbitrary abomination and randomly transforms into some other new, completely arbitrary abomination, it's obviously not fungible or money.

"Fungible" does not mean tumbling coins in some Albanian mixer to try and obfuscate outputs, it means the object has actual, inherent properties that don't mutate at random.  Fungibility is a requirement of money and no imaginary, digital shitcoin has it.  Physical metals are money and digital shitcoins are scam hoaxes pretending to have the traits of metals when they don't.

True, but it is just implicit. Bitcoin cannot be changed after Satoshi left. It is fraud to do so and keep the name.

Biggest shit was Segshit, and we had the biggest drop of btc in market share with that.

Hope we have biggest learning curve about money now.

True Bitcoin is better than any PM though

That's an opinion too, but development must go on.
For the simple minded, bigger blocks will do, but if you project the possible and likely outcomes, it's quite a fatal move.
SegWit was a step forward, but development will have to face more bugs and problems to solve. It's like combustion engines, they convert 100% heat into 40% moving energy. Quite inefficient, but the efficiency did and will rise over time (if we don't make the complete jump to 95+% electrical engines in the near future).
In my opinion, there is no "better" Bitcoin. Bitcoin is BTC and all of it's offsprings combined. The only true intention of Ver, Wright, Wrong and any of those shady hostile characters is that someone buys the story of the "right" Bitcoin and joins his argumentation army. They don't want to get their hands dirty while grabbing your money.

EDIT: Also, when i can buy stuff or service with an entity, it's money. So far for the wet dreams of the roach.
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October 12, 2019, 03:26:57 PM

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October 12, 2019, 03:29:55 PM

Dammit made it to easy, on my phone didn’t check the pic very well
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We're not going to forget this Recep, you Ottoman fuck.



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October 12, 2019, 03:39:22 PM

Ten years ago today, 5,050 btc were sold for $5.02 in the first market transaction for bitcoin.

Today, they'd be worth $42,171,792.50.

A rise of 838,078,685%.
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/7dff938918f07619abd38e4510890396b1cef4fbeca154fb7aafba8843295ea2

Source: https://twitter.com/saifedean/status/1182908897750929408

LoL this is a Reach man  Roll Eyes

Him calling it most important is a bit silly. I believe buying pizza or anything else with Bitcoin was way more important.  Ha, I just checked the pizza day and 10th anniversary will be right around halving.
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October 12, 2019, 03:55:42 PM

Fucking Erdogan man...lame
There is two men in this world, US president and Poutine, the others are bitches.

should i tell you why this above is true? the nuclear power of both combined is the key.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons#Statistics_and_force_configuration

I'm most concerned with France having nukes.
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October 12, 2019, 04:13:48 PM

Segwit and LN and Schnorr are not BitCoin, for a very good reason.

You miss the real point.  Money is supposed to be a constant and unchanging.  Things like the noble metals (physical silver and gold) resist entropy.  Bitcoin FACILITATES entropy.  It's the #1 worst form of 'money' ever created.  If something starts out as some completely arbitrary abomination and randomly transforms into some other new, completely arbitrary abomination, it's obviously not fungible or money.

"Fungible" does not mean tumbling coins in some Albanian mixer to try and obfuscate outputs, it means the object has actual, inherent properties that don't mutate at random.  Fungibility is a requirement of money and no imaginary, digital shitcoin has it.  Physical metals are money and digital shitcoins are scam hoaxes pretending to have the traits of metals when they don't.

True, but it is just implicit. Bitcoin cannot be changed after Satoshi left. It is fraud to do so and keep the name.

Biggest shit was Segshit, and we had the biggest drop of btc in market share with that.

Hope we have biggest learning curve about money now.

True Bitcoin is better than any PM though

That's an opinion too, but development must go on.
For the simple minded, bigger blocks will do, but if you project the possible and likely outcomes, it's quite a fatal move.
SegWit was a step forward, but development will have to face more bugs and problems to solve. It's like combustion engines, they convert 100% heat into 40% moving energy. Quite inefficient, but the efficiency did and will rise over time (if we don't make the complete jump to 95+% electrical engines in the near future).
In my opinion, there is no "better" Bitcoin. Bitcoin is BTC and all of it's offsprings combined. The only true intention of Ver, Wright, Wrong and any of those shady hostile characters is that someone buys the story of the "right" Bitcoin and joins his argumentation army. They don't want to get their hands dirty while grabbing your money.

EDIT: Also, when i can buy stuff or service with an entity, it's money. So far for the wet dreams of the roach.

Average Joes just got totally brain washed with Bitcoin needs more dev or anonymity, whatever.

Bitcoin works fine as designed by Satoshi

It could ve been listed on any regulated exchange  ( and be much more money ) if simple thin and on purpose, not bribbled / fucked up / altered as btc is now.

Protocols should not change any few months

Money neither

Gold has its constant 999 / same nucleus count..


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October 12, 2019, 04:15:24 PM

Dammit made it to easy, on my phone didn’t check the pic very well
Goood bro your phone camera is very well you can show this full image ?
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October 12, 2019, 04:18:58 PM

Ill be enjoying my life regardless of who wins. 

Now you too can live the dream life of being trapped inside a Chinese communist, social credit score, basic income system.

Swamp the drain with Andrew Yang 2020

At least he'll accelerate the monetary collapse. You've got to like that whether you're a physical metals virgin or a Bitcoin Chad.

Somewhat unfortunately, the best case scenario we could hope for is another Trump term. And after a two term president, we almost always get a president from the other party. So would you like a communist in 2020 or 2024?
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October 12, 2019, 04:24:37 PM

WOW nice place want one day i traveled this place, when bitcoin price $50k
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October 12, 2019, 04:36:56 PM

It's bullshit people claim JayJuanGee passes a Turing test when people just assume the code is a mentally insane human.  To pass a Turing test people would have to think it's a normal human.

It's bullshit that you actually believe that anyone gives any shits what you believe, except maybe perhaps for the sake of some humor in witnessing that actual dumbasses like you actually exist in this world (at least on the interwebs).

Fuck you, JayJuanGee.  You're not fooling anyone.  To pass a Turing test people are required to belive you're a normal human, not a defective one.

Now you are a Turing test expert, too?  Holy fucking shit!!!!!  What's this world (or this thread) coming too? 

Roach knows about almost every fucking topic in the world, even though he has demonstrated that he is one of the dumbest asses on the planet if it really happens to be true that he does not invest anything in bitcoin and actually believes the nonsense of his own posts (that actually shows that he knows quite a bit about bitcoin, inspite of the mostly nonsensical angles that he takes therein, at least relative to a decent majority of the planet).    Shocked Shocked
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October 12, 2019, 04:41:47 PM

You ignored my entire defense

What defense?

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If you want to counter something, counter the reasoning below:

I'd be happy to, if you had something to respond to other than 'a couple of the people who believe this is the route forward have engaged in behavior I consider unsavory'. But you don't. There is nothing to respond to.

Again: Defend your statement. Or retract it. Any other path forward for you would be dishonorable.

You forgot the bit where the big blockers try to fool newbies into thinking Bcash lol and BSV are Bitcoin.

Your entire value proposition is based on fraud.  

One of these logos is a BSV logo.  One of these logos is a Bitcoin logo.  I can’t tell the difference so I can’t see how a newbie could.  This is plainly fraudulent passing off.  



Thanks Hairy. He insists on making it an argument about whether or not a piece of software has the ability to act immorally on its own, which is of course, never what the argument was about.

breher: just because you ignore a defense doesn't mean its not a defense. I'm tired of playing these word games with you. Look at the scoreboard: your favorite altcoins are dying slow but measurable deaths because they were built on the fraudulent premise that they are the real bitcoin. Had they not tried so hard to blatantly piggyback off bitcoin's good name, perhaps they would both be doing better than they currently are. They would almost certainly be better respected by the general community.

Segwit and LN and Schnorr are not BitCoin, for a very good reason.

If u don't get that, visit a lawyer but don't misinform all the others.

Oh the retarded hv_ is going to help out jbreher in order to provide a meaningful assessment about the situation.


Oh, yes, retarded hv_ your numbskull response was so, so helpful!!!!



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