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Question: When will we see a new ATH?
2023 - 52 (23.6%)
2024 - 88 (40%)
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2026 - 4 (1.8%)
2027 - 2 (0.9%)
After 2027 - 4 (1.8%)
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January 29, 2020, 03:07:55 AM

​Bitcoins price a year ago today: $3,300

Bitcoins price today: $9,300

Bitcoin price in one year: $26,000?

Aim sharper dude.... put on your good soxxx....
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January 29, 2020, 03:08:44 AM

NY Times says confirmed cases in China over 6,000

I hope they can fix it in high speed
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January 29, 2020, 03:16:56 AM

After more reading, I am not that worried about it.

People in Western hospitals are not dying.  The fatality rate seems very low and only the most vulnerable / compromised. 
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January 29, 2020, 03:23:08 AM

So on coinbase pro, it says its going to shut down from 9-1030 am PST on Thursday.......
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January 29, 2020, 03:25:43 AM

Hey, WO`s!!!  Cheesy

 Is there anyone here who can tell me what's wrong with monero?  Huh
Of course, aside from the fact that the monero aren't BTC.


Otherwise, having learned all the information available to me about him, I have too suspiciously positive an opinion about him...  Roll Eyes
A bug in the confidentiality math can create unlimited coin issuance without anyone ever knowing up until the point where the perpetrator abuses it to such extent that it becomes visibly noticeable (but at this point it would be too late to do anything about it). This is why you don't want that tech on the base layer, and these coins can never come anywhere close to Bitcoin. They are test beds for different technologies, that is all.

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January 29, 2020, 03:36:56 AM

After more reading, I am not that worried about it.

People in Western hospitals are not dying.  The fatality rate seems very low and only the most vulnerable / compromised. 

That's because we have better treatments for pneumonia AND the hospitals are not overhelmed. As expected.
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January 29, 2020, 03:37:54 AM

100% False

I think he was thinking of ZEC
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January 29, 2020, 03:40:51 AM

Oh yeah, you're probably right jojo
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January 29, 2020, 03:48:09 AM

I really hope the major didn't really sell all of his stash at $4K-

The other day I stumbled upon one of the last posts of bones261 in another thread. It seems that he sold. Not that he had a huge stash, but still.

I wonder how many other good people we will be losing along this bumpy journey. Will never understand why people go ALL-OUT. Why not hodl even a little stash just in case... even if you lost faith?

When I see the first pages of this very same thread I see a lot of nicks that are no longer here. It is easy to notice because there are almost no hats. IIRC jojo is the first one that appears. I have always though that most of them already reached their targets and are now too busy spending their fortune while still hodling a good chunk of BTC... Maybe reality is much uglier than that.

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Thinking about going all out is so 2015. (especially when it is down 50%+ from its ATH) That was the year I was afraid of bitcoin crashing to zero and I had no coins at that time. I was all out.

After I witnessed the pump in 2017, I realized that bitcoin cannot go to zero even if it wanted to. (What...You thought bitcoin wasn't a living organism?)

People just won't let it happen. (It is certainly not dying.)

I totally agree. I went almost all out in 2015 when I bought my Ducati for 30 BTC.

Now, not so much. on thursday I actually have an appointment with the bank to discuss "selling my house for bitcoin". That is, taking out a second mortgage on the huge surplus value of my house, reorganising my debts and then hopefully ending up with a sizeable amount to increase my stash. I mean, the money is free man, 1.55% is less then inflation....

Jesus Julian. That is a very risky move you are doing there. In all senses:

1- Getting money on a suppossed current surplus valuation.
2- Reorganising debts........... which basically means you have debts, in plural.
3- And using loaned money to invest in Bitcoin.

Not that I am saying it couldn't end well for you but.... risky business to say the least.

Of course, if you have enough income to cover it all even in the case your investment went to zero then everything is good I think.
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January 29, 2020, 04:05:56 AM

Looks like another move up is coming, if that was a bull flag, then we are targeting $10,000
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January 29, 2020, 04:09:12 AM
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When 5 dig? Hope to figure more out after HODLsleep
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January 29, 2020, 04:18:55 AM

Why, exactly, are we surging?
Didn't Apple earnings cancel coV? /s

I lost track of trends and counter-trends.
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Whatsat – Send Private Messages via the Lightning Network.

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This week an advantageous Lightning Labs developer by the name of Joost Jager unveiled an experimental new proof of concept called Whatsat. The new protocol allows users to send private messages directly via the Lightning Network. The news demonstrates a further expansion of the Lightning Network’s capabilities, as well as, a stronger push for privacy in the space.

Whatsat is a decentralized and censorship-resistant way to send messages to fellow Lightning Network users. Unlike Telegram or WhatsApp, there is no central entity to stop users from employing the network. This decentralization is important when you consider that governments stepped up pressure on private chat firms recently.

Across the globe, governments have applied pressure tactics to see private chat firms provide them with some form of backdoor to monitor conversations. In many instances, these governments claim the backdoor is necessary to prevent public threats such as terrorist attacks.

Jager is ahead of the curve on this maneuver. Combining messaging and payment systems has long been a desire for some of the biggest players in the tech industry. If Jager can get his product to enough users, there is a good chance this protocol sees massive use in the coming months. For now, the Lightning Network continues to add functionality to the world’s first cryptocurrency.
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... still tracking ahead of the curve.

I don't mind if you want to give a daily update Marcus_of_augustus.

23% increase in 24 hours... Shocked
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Why, exactly, are we surging?
Didn't Apple earnings cancel coV? /s

I lost track of trends and counter-trends.



https://twitter.com/MatiGreenspan/status/1222312079761133568
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January 29, 2020, 05:36:21 AM

Why, exactly, are we surging?
Didn't Apple earnings cancel coV? /s

I lost track of trends and counter-trends.



https://twitter.com/MatiGreenspan/status/1222312079761133568

My body is ready, but it's a little early to be talking about mooning. Let's see if we can break 10K first.
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January 29, 2020, 05:42:16 AM


I don't mind if you want to give a daily update Marcus_of_augustus.

23% increase in 24 hours... Shocked


... if you want I, for one, would appreciate seeing the table updated daily. I don't really have the tools or time to do it properly myself.
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January 29, 2020, 06:12:41 AM
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FilBTCfilBTC says down before up. Still more or less sideways.

Masterluc sez we're going down.

WRONG!

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January 29, 2020, 06:20:13 AM
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Good morning, good day to change the rank.

Bye Sr. Member / Hi, Hero Member 

Kiss WO Kiss #nohomo
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January 29, 2020, 06:22:54 AM

There seem to be a lot of posters who automatically assume that if you've been around for a long time you're fooking loaded which must make those who know the truth groan.

That is because they are unable to grasp the fact there is a motivation other than greed that has drawn people into this sphere.


Isn't bitcoin built around an assumption that people are greedy (or at least a milder form of self-interested)?

So, accordingly, bitcoin seems to presume that individuals are going to engage in behavior that attempts to maximize their own best interest, and it so happens that a large number of individuals attempting to maximize their own best interest (aka greedy) causes bitcoin to become stronger.

Yeah, of course, some people have concluded that their own best interest has been to pump some shit coin or to suck off the nipple of BTC in creating a new product - by attempting to copy bitcoin or to deceive people into believing that they are bitcoin 2.0 or that bitcoin is defective in some kind of way, yet in the end, such value is still going to flow back into bitcoin because the deception and the ability to copy bitcoin tends to come off as disingenuine and inferior than just working on king daddy himself.

Could take 50 years or more to sort out, but everything largely seems to be going as planned in terms of individuals being greedy and acting in their own interests while bitcoin gets stronger and stronger, no?  I am not afraid to admit that I like getting rich through bitcoin, while I have been attempting to pursue my own best (greedy) interests.

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