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February 10, 2020, 06:04:59 PM
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Reaching above 9400 and 9600 USD was very important imo. it was kind of a strong return back movement. Of course it is hard to evaluate the price movements with general financial indicators. Bitcoin has mostly its own special indicators.
I guess we can set the next target as 10400 USD. There may be small recessions during this uptrend but i am enough optimistic for a good rise till the halving time.
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February 10, 2020, 06:14:50 PM
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Code:
Exchange       Hacks/Year      Hacks/Year      Hacks/Year

796Exchange 1/2015
Altsbit 1/2020
Android RNG bug 1/2013
Bancor 1/2018
basic-mining 1/2013
Bidextreme 1/2013
Binance 1/2019
Bips 1/2013
Bit LC 1/2013
bitcash.cz 1/2013
Bitcoin Gold 1/2018
Bitcoin Rain 1/2013
Bitcoin7 1/2011
Bitcoinica 3/2012
Bitcoins Norway 1/2019
Bitcurex 1/2014 1/2016
Bitfinex 1/2015 1/2016
Bitfloor 1/2012
BitGrail 1/2018
Bithumb 1/2017 1/2018 1/2019
BitMarket 1/2019
Bitomat.pl 1/2011
BitPay 1/2014
Bitpoint 1/2019
Bitrue 1/2019
Bitsane 1/2019
Bitstamp 1/2015
BTC Guild 1/2013
BTC-e 1/2012
BTER 1/2014 1/2015
Canadian Bitcoins 1/2014
Coinapult 1/2015
Coinbene 1/2019
Coincheck 1/2018
Coinmama 1/2019
Coinrail 1/2018
Coinsecure 1/2018
Cointrader 1/2016
Cryptopia 1/2019
CryptoRush 1/2014
Cryptsy 1/2014
Dec. Sheep Market 1/2013
DragonEx 1/2019
Flexcoin 1/2014
Foxbit 1/2018
Gatecoin 1/2016
GateHub 1/2019
GBL 1/2013
inputs.io 1/2013
Just-Dice 1/2013
KipCoin 1/2014 1/2015
Liqui Crypto 1/2019
LocalBitcoins 1/2015
Mass MyBitcoin 1/2011
MintPal 1/2014
Mooncoin 1/2011
MTGOX 1/2011 1/2014
MyBitcoin 1/2011
Nicehash 1/2017
OKEx 1/2017
Ozcoin 1/2013
PicoStocks      2/2013
PlusToken Ponzi 1/2019
Poloniex 1/2014
QuadrigaCX 1/2019
Shapeshift 1/2016
Silk Road  1/2013 1/2014
Ubitex 1/2011
Upbit 1/2019
Vircurex 1/2013
Yapizon 1/2017
Youbit 1/2017
Zaif 1/2018
ZigGap 1/2013

Added an ordered list with all hacked exchanges, at the suggestion of @DaveF in a comment.
You can copy the list into a text sheet and you will see the exchange and how many times it has been hacked per year.

- List of all exchanges sorted alphabetically:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090869.msg48946980#msg48946980
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February 10, 2020, 06:31:41 PM
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I got my $3k number by extrapolating....
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333,333.333333

hodl for 300k

I predicted a low of $3k about a year and a half ago and the next high around $300k..

The $3k low prediction held up pretty well and I'm no less confident in the 300k prediction since then, with about the same seriousness that I was saying "BTC to $10k" in 2014-2015..

I think $100k would be quite a conservative prediction for the peak after this next halving..

Many of the extrapolation results of 2017's bubble top were between about $40k and$50k iirc.?
Just for comparison, if you know or remember better, please let me know.


Huh?

The vast majority of peeps were predicting between about $3k and $7k for 2017.  Of course, there were guys like adam predicting $32k, and there were some $10k folks, but these super bullish predictions were not really the norm.  There were a lot of bearish predictions too.. like we already reached the top... blah blah blah..

Yeah, in retrospect, 2017 might seem all clear, but largely the BTC price move in 2017 went about 3x to 5x beyond expectations....

Now, after reaching $19,666, did people expect 2-3 years to get back to $19,666... I don't think so... Many folks were considering resuming another top, like what happened in 2013.. two tops... but yeah, in retrospect, we see that double top performance did not happen.

I had the last few weeks of parabolic rise in mind, not the actual 2017 predictions, but the "FOMO ones".
And yes, they we're certainly not the norm. But still, i think it made many people still sell their houses to buy bitcoin near the ATH.
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$ I suppose, 2020 - yearly high?
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February 10, 2020, 07:08:46 PM

https://gnews.org/107513/

Unusual activities before the epidemic
The U.S. government will investigate the stock market manipulations took place before the Wuhan epidemic including (but not limited to):

“Exists” from Stock Exchanges in Shanghai, Shenzhen, and Hong Kong.
short-selling
People with knowledge of the viral attack sold a large number of stocks to American, European and Saudis investors. Many people who sold their stocks include Jiang Zhicheng (the grandson of Jiang Zeming, the former president of China), Meng Haijin (the daughter of Meng Jianzhu), and Gao Yanyan, etc.
Li Ka-shing, a pro-CCP tycoon in Hong Kong, unloaded a significant portion of his stock holding after Nov 12, a move he did not take during the Hong Kong pro-democracy protests.
Many Chinese business tycoons have been shorting stocks and selling stock holdings to foreigners while keeping their mouths shut since Nov 12, 2019.


I don't know about the veracity of Miles Guo's theories but we do know that Li Ka-Shing has been heavily involved in bitcoin in the past. If he was exiting Chinese stocks as Miles says then it is possible he was entering bitcoin/gold flight capital assets. There was a good pump in bitcoin mid-late Oct. .... hmmm was that another Li Ka-shing and co. pump?.

Really, hes last name is Ka-shing?
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I think he's using it wrong.
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$ I suppose, 2020 - yearly high?

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No, Li Kashing's last name is Li
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February 10, 2020, 07:26:27 PM

Okey dokey, uncleD's wild goose chase.
It's exactly the reason he never found the Easter egg when we were kids.
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February 10, 2020, 07:34:43 PM

Polo down for (unexpected) maintenance.

All funds are... (of course) 'safe'.

hmm

EDIT: Yeah, I know, a bit retro to use Polo now, but I still use it.
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More CCP manipulation.

https://twitter.com/lwcalex/status/1226840055869632512

WHO's definition:


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https://twitter.com/TomthunkitsMind/status/1226885577737371654?s=20
video of a family being locked in to their flat to quarantine them

whole huge thread of Chinese goings-on
https://twitter.com/sotiridi/status/1226192467097214976?s=20
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February 10, 2020, 07:42:27 PM

More CCP manipulation.

https://twitter.com/lwcalex/status/1226840055869632512

WHO's definition:




My understanding is that China has always required the patient to have both a positive test and pneumonia.  

The original case definition required them have both of those factors, and to have contact with the wet market....
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https://gnews.org/107513/

Unusual activities before the epidemic
The U.S. government will investigate the stock market manipulations took place before the Wuhan epidemic including (but not limited to):

“Exists” from Stock Exchanges in Shanghai, Shenzhen, and Hong Kong.
short-selling
People with knowledge of the viral attack sold a large number of stocks to American, European and Saudis investors. Many people who sold their stocks include Jiang Zhicheng (the grandson of Jiang Zeming, the former president of China), Meng Haijin (the daughter of Meng Jianzhu), and Gao Yanyan, etc.
Li Ka-shing, a pro-CCP tycoon in Hong Kong, unloaded a significant portion of his stock holding after Nov 12, a move he did not take during the Hong Kong pro-democracy protests.
Many Chinese business tycoons have been shorting stocks and selling stock holdings to foreigners while keeping their mouths shut since Nov 12, 2019.


Shorting exchanges where American investors are long is now outlawed. These bastards don't share our values. Bomb them!
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February 10, 2020, 08:10:35 PM

Why have you got "Pink Panties" as your personal text? Is that the colour of knickers you are wearing today?

This is the only explanation you're getting - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnXPqUU6fI0&t=0m51s

I think you got away so lightly here.


I know when a few of the old masters around here saw you dare to mention Gentalmand's panties they were reeling back with fear what might be unleashed. OK some may have just reached for the popcorn.


Thank satoshi for weird "music" on youtube.


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February 10, 2020, 08:14:48 PM

https://gnews.org/107513/

Unusual activities before the epidemic
The U.S. government will investigate the stock market manipulations took place before the Wuhan epidemic including (but not limited to):

“Exists” from Stock Exchanges in Shanghai, Shenzhen, and Hong Kong.
short-selling
People with knowledge of the viral attack sold a large number of stocks to American, European and Saudis investors. Many people who sold their stocks include Jiang Zhicheng (the grandson of Jiang Zeming, the former president of China), Meng Haijin (the daughter of Meng Jianzhu), and Gao Yanyan, etc.
Li Ka-shing, a pro-CCP tycoon in Hong Kong, unloaded a significant portion of his stock holding after Nov 12, a move he did not take during the Hong Kong pro-democracy protests.
Many Chinese business tycoons have been shorting stocks and selling stock holdings to foreigners while keeping their mouths shut since Nov 12, 2019.


Shorting exchanges where American investors are long is now outlawed. These bastards don't share our values. Bomb them!


There's a conspiracy theory behind that. It says that the CCP leaders and friends caused the nCoV outbreak and took advantage of the inside knowledge beforehand, shorted their holdings and fled the country before things got hot.
Don't ask ME if this is true or not Grin
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February 10, 2020, 08:23:39 PM

Why have you got "Pink Panties" as your personal text? Is that the colour of knickers you are wearing today?

This is the only explanation you're getting - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnXPqUU6fI0&t=0m51s

I think you got away so lightly here.


I know when a few of the old masters around here saw you dare to mention Gentalmand's panties they were reeling back with fear what might be unleashed.


genitalmand's panties?
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February 10, 2020, 08:32:21 PM
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I got the idea for this graph in Investing 1$ every day in bitcoin over the last five years, but the graph I created doesn't only include the last 5 years until today. It includes every consecutive period of 5 years in which Bitcoin had a dollar value, until yesterday.

I don't know if anyone ever made a graph like this before, but I think it adds a nice perspective.

Results:
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Data source: https://coinmetrics.io/newdata/btc.csv
Note: I had to use a logarithmic scale to make the graph readable.

Details:
The first 5 year period starts on July 18, 2010, when Bitcoin is valued at $0.08584. On this day, $1 buys 11.64958062BTC.
After spending $1 on Bitcoin every day for 5 years (I used 1826 days), it's July 17 2015.
July 17, 2015 is the very first data point in the graph: the most left red and blue dots.
The last data point (the most right red and blue dots) represent the investment period that ended on February 9, 2020, and started 5 years before that date.

The obvious
Early adopters had the best bet. Nothing new here!
Investing a total of $1826 in Bitcoin, for 5 years, with a dollar per day, would have gotten you $10,000 or more at the end of your 5 years, no matter when you started!
The amount of Bitcoin you can buy using "dollar cost averaging" for 5 years in a row has continuously been declining. No exceptions!
The dollar equivalent seems to have touched a bottom at $10,000.

Investment advice
I don't do that! This graph is based on historic data, if I'd know the future, I'd be rich!
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https://youtu.be/Nb2tebYAaOA Jim Keller: Moore's Law, Microprocessors, Abstractions, and First Principles (95 mins)
https://youtu.be/1CSeY10zbqo Jim Keller: Most People Don't Think Simple Enough (8 minute teaser)
super stuff, abso fascinating, sorta knew it already, but he explains so clearly; like a favo song
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