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Add maintenance costs also. They'll be more than you imagine.
Also with one estate you're next to no-where. Minimum two is required, to enter this business profitably.
Finally - as always - it's all about location.
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January 20, 2020, 09:58:09 AM
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Add maintenance costs also. They'll be more than you imagine.
Also with one estate you're next to no-where. Minimum two is required, to enter this business profitably.
Finally - as always - it's all about location.

Thanks for making me remember why I don't like RE. Maintenance costs. That was the deal breaker now I remember again.
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Add maintenance costs also. They'll be more than you imagine.
Also with one estate you're next to no-where. Minimum two is required, to enter this business profitably.
Finally - as always - it's all about location.

Thanks for making me remember why I don't like RE. Maintenance costs. That was the deal breaker now I remember again.

True it is, but - at one point - you can probably get subsidies if we're talking about EU.
If you do, it kinda balances out the whole maintenance clusterfuck.
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Oh wow, thanks for the merits mindrust! I am almost Legendary now! weeeeeeeee Tongue

And I didn't meant to make you discard nor go all in in real estate. I just say it is a very interesting investment, but you do need to do your homework first, as everything in life!

P.S.: Oh it looks like I also just got a good chunk from The Dude himself! Now that explains the HUGE leap forward in my merit count. Thanks dude!
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My advantage is that health is dirt cheap here. Doctors are literally working for free. I better get a 2nd passport but still keep my original in case I have a serious health problem.

I do also have a GREAT and almost FREE health care here. In Spain $1-$2 million would probably be the equivalent of that $5million for US. Again, depends on many factors.

And yes, one could go with a lower figure if he already has a home, retirement pension, additional income, less years to live, very frugal lifestyle, etc etc...

But the geographical factor is *EXTREMELY* important.

Fortunately I plan to always live here. Not just because of "cost of living" but QUALITY of living... and WEATHER! *Most* of the world (including many parts of my damn country!) is too fucking cold for my taste.

Now you mentioned Spain, I was actually considering of buying 2 x 500k€ flats in Barcelona and AirBnb the fuck out of them.  Grin

Work while having a vacation. Sound like a brilliant idea.

Not the best of the ideas. Touristic apartments are having a regulation tightening specially in Barcelona. Risky business I would say. You might be earning like a boss this year and the next one be out of the market because of some regulation that forbids you to rent it. In fact that is ALREADY happening.

Also Barcelona (and Madrid) and among the most expensive cities to live in Spain. Higher salaries yeah, but if you are not gonna work there you will just "enjoy" the higher cost of living. Still, WAY lower than US, of course.

About renting... currently the best investment are more "modest" 2-3 room apartments valued from 50 (reform usually needed) to 250K (more premium zones) € that you can rent for 5-10% that. Long term, so hassle free.
Or lousy apartments with many rooms near universities that you can rent to students.

It's a job in itself to take care of your "business" and properties but it's a reasonably safe investment with a good return if you know what you are doing.

@mindrust @bitserve

Its always very difficult how much a person should net worth need to be living whit out worries....  Like parts of the world, metropolitan cities, cheap countries or what ever

Here on how would it be for a poker player, interesting discussion on how much would a poker player need for net income a year to be living and playing the game as a profession....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO4ZNsTOpRE&t=1765s

On who's side would you chose?? Staples or Polk?

They also talk many points you both have said ....  
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Oh wow, thanks for the merits mindrust! I am almost Legendary now! weeeeeeeee Tongue

And I didn't meant to make you discard nor go all in in real estate. I just say it is a very interesting investment, but you do need to do your homework first, as everything in life!

P.S.: Oh it looks like I also just got a good chunk from The Dude himself! Now that explains the HUGE leap forward in my merit count. Thanks dude!

I got you too bro!

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January 20, 2020, 10:19:52 AM
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Oh wow, thanks for the merits mindrust! I am almost Legendary now! weeeeeeeee Tongue

And I didn't meant to make you discard nor go all in in real estate. I just say it is a very interesting investment, but you do need to do your homework first, as everything in life!

P.S.: Oh it looks like I also just got a good chunk from The Dude himself! Now that explains the HUGE leap forward in my merit count. Thanks dude!

Whoops, ended up sending you about 4 extra merits. I do read a bit of Spanish, it was good practice. Don't really get to use it too often. Anyway, congrats on ranking up!
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January 20, 2020, 10:23:29 AM

Now @bitserve, you can change your writing into

WO-made Legendary  Cheesy
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Oh wow, thanks for the merits mindrust! I am almost Legendary now! weeeeeeeee Tongue

And I didn't meant to make you discard nor go all in in real estate. I just say it is a very interesting investment, but you do need to do your homework first, as everything in life!

P.S.: Oh it looks like I also just got a good chunk from The Dude himself! Now that explains the HUGE leap forward in my merit count. Thanks dude!

The Dude was waiting on a small replenishment what will happen a bit later today... but mindrust, LFC, uncle tildah where all to fast....  Cheesy
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We got many types of BTC'ers and people fooling themselves thinking they are BTC'ers or whatever....

Homer shows the real thinking of a true BTC'er
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DA FUCK!  Shocked



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Congrats for new rank Legendary Shocked  @bitserve
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Thank you very much guys. Really. Not because of the rank or the merits, but for the appreciation. I look forward to many years sharing the good fortune of being able to be here shitposting the fuck outta life with you all!

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Thank you very much guys. Really. Not because of the rank or the merits, but for the appreciation. I look forward to many years sharing the good fortune of being able to be here shitposting the fuck outta life with you all!

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Congrats bitserve! Cool

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@servebit, so you are a Leo fan.... that’s makes two of us ....  Cool
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@servebit, so you are a Leo fan.... that’s makes two of us ....  Cool

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Conga rats Bit serve
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When Ve ge TA ?
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January 20, 2020, 11:57:21 AM

@servebit, so you are a Leo fan.... that’s makes two of us ....  Cool

Not so much... to be brutally honest. I have always thought he was a bit too much baby-faced (specially in the past, ie Titanic) and skinny to be a man, as if he had been an ill born child or something.

But I had to chose between that... or this:





... and I think I choose wisely.
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Conga rats Bit serve

THanks!

What kind of game are you guys playing with my nick?  Roll Eyes
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