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Well then, was math discovered or invented?
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Well then, was math discovered or invented?

If you were to completely destroy all books, websites, etc. on mathematics and wipe all memories and knowledge on math from everybody's memories, eventually people would rediscover math. Sure, the symbols, numbers and letters might look different (the number 5 might look like this ->◢) but the axioms (rules of math) would still be the same. 2 apples added to 2 apples will always result in 4 apples.

Bitcoin, on the other hand, is built on the foundations of different technologies. We would first have to invent a computer which works exactly like today's computers work (0s and 1s), then we would have to invent the internet exactly the way it is, and we would have to invent the concept of money exactly the way it is and so on.

If we were to reset all of civilization, who says Bitcoin would be technologically possible or even required (For example in a money-less civilization?)


I see.  So goldkingcoiner does not subscribe to the assertion that bitcoin was discovered.   Angry Angry Angry Angry

Depends on the perspective. We discovered Bitcoin. Satoshi invented Bitcoin.
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Fast forwarded through almost the entire episode, not sure that had to do with the story line, if they keep that up wont be watching it anymore.

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But maaaaaaaaaaaaan that 3th episode fucked up a lot
Fast forwarded through almost the entire episode, not sure that had to do with the story line, if they keep that up wont be watching it anymore.

They just cant help but shove agenda into every fucking thing they touch these days.

If it continues I may just go back to the old days and lose the tv altogether.

Are you going to move to the mountains and write a "manifesto" too?


Asking for a friend.
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If it continues I may just go back to the old days and lose the tv altogether.

Are you going to move to the mountains and write a "manifesto" too?


Asking for a friend.

So ignoring someone shouting crap in my face I don't like is akin to writing a manifesto now?
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January 31, 2023, 10:58:05 PM
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Are you going to move to the mountains and write a "manifesto" too?


Asking for a friend.

Give old Ted a break, he was a victim of MK ultra
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All of my friends and me
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The last of us “serie”
But maaaaaaaaaaaaan that 3th episode fucked up a lot
Fast forwarded through almost the entire episode, not sure that had to do with the story line, if they keep that up wont be watching it anymore.

They just cant help but shove agenda into every fucking thing they touch these days.

If it continues I may just go back to the old days and lose the tv altogether.

Are you going to move to the mountains and write a "manifesto" too?


Asking for a friend.

So ignoring someone shouting crap in my face I don't like is akin to writing a manifesto now?

Well maybe maybe not.

I can list a long line of bs on tv shows that anger me.

I think the one that makes me more angry then anything is Trevor Noah commenting on New York State banning bullet proof vests.

"If you are not up to something nefarious you don't need a bulletproof vest in New York"

I was so pissed off at that statement I wanted the motherfucker to be fired.

and in under 2 months since he said it the motherfucker is gone.

So is this a manifesto? No it is not.

But New York City had over 3000 shootings in 2022 most of the people were victims and not up to anything nefarious at all.

So I am happy to see Trevor no more just for that one single statement of support for banning bulletproof vests in New York.

BTW I own guns and I own bulletproof vests. . So fuck Trevor and Hochel NY states bitch governor.
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But maaaaaaaaaaaaan that 3th episode fucked up a lot
Fast forwarded through almost the entire episode, not sure that had to do with the story line, if they keep that up wont be watching it anymore.

They just cant help but shove agenda into every fucking thing they touch these days.

If it continues I may just go back to the old days and lose the tv altogether.
Are you going to move to the mountains and write a "manifesto" too?

Asking for a friend.
So ignoring someone shouting crap in my face I don't like is akin to writing a manifesto now?

First answer:  I am asking about intended future plans, not past behaviors. hahahahaha

Second answer: yes    Tongue Tongue Tongue

Third answer (in the form of a pic):  



Third & a half answer:  we all be in a good place, so long as uie-pooie did not sell ur cornz.

Forth answer: look who woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

Fifth answer:  I reserve the right to make further comments  Wink (#nohomo)

So is this a manifesto? No it is not.

Looks like the beginning stages of a manifesto to this here cat, but WTF do I know (to cite a famous WO peep)?

BTW I own guns and I own bulletproof vests. . So fuck Trevor and Hochel NY states bitch governor.

Whoaza!!!!!   I feel like citing this out of context.. just for funzies.  Tongue
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Well then, was math discovered or invented?

it depends...

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-universe-made-of-math-excerpt/
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I have a question...

If in about 5 years (early 2028) bitcoin is 25.5k (now it is 23k vs 20K in Dec 2017, so a similar small rise with lots of down and up volatility in between), would you be content?
I might be, but would be very surprised at such stability.
Honestly, I just cannot comprehend why we are still below a $tril in mcap, considering everything that happened already (gigantic money printing, 500tril assets market cap, etc, etc.).

Perhaps, bitcoin diffuses into the collective psyche quite slowly, but afterwards stays permanently entrenched in someone's mind.
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I have a question...

If in about 5 years (early 2028) bitcoin is 25.5k (now it is 23k vs 20K in Dec 2017, so a similar small rise with lots of down and up volatility in between), would you be content?
I might be, but would be very surprised at such stability.
Honestly, I just cannot comprehend why we are still below a $tril in mcap, considering everything that happened already (gigantic money printing, 500tril assets market cap, etc, etc.).

Perhaps, bitcoin diffuses into the collective psyche quite slowly, but afterwards stays permanently entrenched in someone's mind.

Oh on topic.  

   I can live with 23-30k for decades on end as I will simply grind out a small profit mining.  The downside is my dirt cheap unbeatable power price is limited to 300 x.8 = 240kwatts and 75kwatts  a grand total of 300-315kwatts.  Right now best gear earns

141 x .075 = $10.57 for 3 kwatts so if we were maxed out we could do $1057 a day my piece is 25% or $264 a day.

I would sign up for that for the next 10 years. As it is about 100k a year.
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I have a question...

If in about 5 years (early 2028) bitcoin is 25.5k (now it is 23k vs 20K in Dec 2017, so a similar small rise with lots of down and up volatility in between), would you be content?
I might be, but would be very surprised at such stability.
Honestly, I just cannot comprehend why we are still below a $tril in mcap, considering everything that happened already (gigantic money printing, 500tril assets market cap, etc, etc.).

Perhaps, bitcoin diffuses into the collective psyche quite slowly, but afterwards stays permanently entrenched in someone's mind.

Oh on topic.  


it's a funny little snippet considering that rant about vests and governors, ain't it, phil?

i kid, i kid  Cheesy
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The last of us “serie”
But maaaaaaaaaaaaan that 3th episode fucked up a lot
Fast forwarded through almost the entire episode, not sure that had to do with the story line, if they keep that up wont be watching it anymore.

They just cant help but shove agenda into every fucking thing they touch these days.

If it continues I may just go back to the old days and lose the tv altogether.

Are you going to move to the mountains and write a "manifesto" too?


Asking for a friend.

So ignoring someone shouting crap in my face I don't like is akin to writing a manifesto now?

Well maybe maybe not.

I can list a long line of bs on tv shows that anger me.

I think the one that makes me more angry then anything is Trevor Noah commenting on New York State banning bullet proof vests.

"If you are not up to something nefarious you don't need a bulletproof vest in New York"

I was so pissed off at that statement I wanted the motherfucker to be fired.

and in under 2 months since he said it the motherfucker is gone.

So is this a manifesto? No it is not.

But New York City had over 3000 shootings in 2022 most of the people were victims and not up to anything nefarious at all.

So I am happy to see Trevor no more just for that one single statement of support for banning bulletproof vests in New York.

BTW I own guns and I own bulletproof vests. . So fuck Trevor and Hochel NY states bitch governor.

Have never understood the obsession with giving hypocrites such large platforms.

Trevor Noah (moaning about colonial past whilst he is making millions after immigrating to a rich country), Meghan Markle & Harry (exploiting race and their families which they are breaking in the process), Harvey Weinstein (women empowerment movies!) and frankly many Jewish movie makers in general (don't build walls or I'll punch you / their religious capital Israel being surrounded by walls & "you! should hire more women to make movies", whilst the men saying that still cash in and never offer to be replaced themselves!)

The list is endless of these preaching hypocritical mofos.

They are all ending up making themselves look pretty stupid in the end too it seems.
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What could go wrong?

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Well then, was math discovered or invented?

If you were to completely destroy all books, websites, etc. on mathematics and wipe all memories and knowledge on math from everybody's memories, eventually people would rediscover math. Sure, the symbols, numbers and letters might look different (the number 5 might look like this ->◢) but the axioms (rules of math) would still be the same. 2 apples added to 2 apples will always result in 4 apples.

Bitcoin, on the other hand, is built on the foundations of different technologies. We would first have to invent a computer which works exactly like today's computers work (0s and 1s), then we would have to invent the internet exactly the way it is, and we would have to invent the concept of money exactly the way it is and so on.

If we were to reset all of civilization, who says Bitcoin would be technologically possible or even required (For example in a money-less civilization?)


I see.  So goldkingcoiner does not subscribe to the assertion that bitcoin was discovered.   Angry Angry Angry Angry

Depends on the perspective. We discovered Bitcoin. Satoshi invented Bitcoin.

Just for shits and giggles I had to ask ChatGtp…because of course I did…

Me... "Was calculus discovered or invented?"

 

ChatGpt open AI...."Calculus is considered both a discovery and an invention. On one hand, the concepts and methods of calculus arose from the observations and study of mathematical and physical phenomena. On the other hand, the systematic development and application of these concepts required significant creativity and ingenuity, and the modern formulation of calculus is the result of the efforts of mathematicians such as Sir Isaac Newton and Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz."
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