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Question: Feb. 15 Closing Price:
$0 - 3 (2.6%)
<$8,500 - 6 (5.1%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 3 (2.6%)
$9,001-$9,500 - 2 (1.7%)
$9,501-$10,000 - 12 (10.3%)
$10,001-$10,500 - 30 (25.6%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 21 (17.9%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 14 (12%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 7 (6%)
>$12,000 - 10 (8.5%)
>$30,000 - 9 (7.7%)
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June 22, 2017, 10:11:05 AM

You do realize, that the Segwit2x client is mainly built by Jeff Garzik and has also some commits/reviews from Gavin Andresen?

You do realize that these guys built the clients for XT, Classic, and Unlimited as well?
All they do is the same just under another name!

You do realize, that these guys built the original BitcoinQt, which was the basis for Core, as well?
By the way: Jeff Garzik has a lot of code also in the linux kernel. So if you don't trust him, good luck with Microsoft/Apple.
But yeah, I guess, that's the main problem here: You are trusting large corporations more than voluntary open development. Why do you even use Bitcoin?! There have been large corporations providing financial services around for years, you know?

You do realize that I can't trust a person that opposed translation of BitcoinQt UI in Farsi language because US gov introduced sanctions against Iran!


Can you explain to me, why you think that Blockstream has to fear less issues with the US government than single individuals around the globe?
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June 22, 2017, 10:34:29 AM

You do realize, that the Segwit2x client is mainly built by Jeff Garzik and has also some commits/reviews from Gavin Andresen?

You do realize that these guys built the clients for XT, Classic, and Unlimited as well?
All they do is the same just under another name!

You do realize, that these guys built the original BitcoinQt, which was the basis for Core, as well?
By the way: Jeff Garzik has a lot of code also in the linux kernel. So if you don't trust him, good luck with Microsoft/Apple.
But yeah, I guess, that's the main problem here: You are trusting large corporations more than voluntary open development. Why do you even use Bitcoin?! There have been large corporations providing financial services around for years, you know?

You do realize that I can't trust a person that opposed translation of BitcoinQt UI in Farsi language because US gov introduced sanctions against Iran!


Can you explain to me, why you think that Blockstream has to fear less issues with the US government than single individuals around the globe?

Blockstream has to fear not less, but more issues with US gov. And thats good! Blockstream is the best that is left of the cypherpunk movement and companies like Cygnus Solutions.

BTW, US gov is a very broad term. There are all different kinds of people there. Certainly, there are such that do not approve the coup d'état that took place during the fall of 2008 in US.
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June 22, 2017, 10:50:47 AM

BTW, US gov is a very broad term. There are all different kinds of people there. Certainly, there are such that do not approve the coup d'état that took place during the fall of 2008 in US.


Do you mean Obama getting elected?
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BTW, US gov is a very broad term. There are all different kinds of people there. Certainly, there are such that do not approve the coup d'état that took place during the fall of 2008 in US.


Do you mean Obama getting elected?

No. I mean the capitulation of GW Bush administration to Wall Street extortionists. By the end of 2008 US gov was already a division of Wall Street.

Obama was the choice of the financial capital. With Trump's victory the industrial capital managed to gain some ground back but not too much.
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No. I mean the capitulation of GW Bush administration to Wall Street extortionists. By the end of 2008 US gov was already a division of Wall Street.

Obama was the choice of the financial capital. With Trump's victory the industrial capital managed to gain some ground back but not too much.


becoin, you're very observant. I agree.

Bush and Obama caved to the "club" and became club members themselves, the club being the Deepstate - Fed/Bankers/Megacorp/Wallstreet with their Globalist world financial agenda. That is why the MSM largely gave both of them a pass.

But Trump is pushing back, and that's why the Deepstate controlled MSM is out to hang him on something. They want him out of office now because he's not completely on board with selling out the U.S. citizens and continuing the U.S. demise.

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June 22, 2017, 12:18:04 PM

Segwit is working fine in Litecoin
Segwit is working fine on TestNet in Bitcoin environment.

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June 22, 2017, 12:19:19 PM

No. I mean the capitulation of GW Bush administration to Wall Street extortionists. By the end of 2008 US gov was already a division of Wall Street.

Obama was the choice of the financial capital. With Trump's victory the industrial capital managed to gain some ground back but not too much.


becoin, you're very observant. I agree.

Bush and Obama caved to the "club" and became club members themselves, the club being the Deepstate - Fed/Bankers/Megacorp/Wallstreet with their Globalist world financial agenda. That is why the MSM largely gave both of them a pass.

But Trump is pushing back, and that's why the Deepstate controlled MSM is out to hang him on something. They want him out of office now because he's not completely on board with selling out the U.S. citizens and continuing the U.S. demise.



Could we stay on topic gentlemen? ^^

Note that I don't mind discussing politics but there is a part on the forum dedicated for that. Especially as I don't see how Trump is linked to BTC price... He won't do anything to make the dollar stronger: I don't think he wants to, he doesn't care at all about his country or its economy, and even if he wanted to I'm not sure he could do anything.

And on topic: Did you see how the price is on the rise again? Do you think there is a link with the segwit2x increasing support?
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No. I mean the capitulation of GW Bush administration to Wall Street extortionists. By the end of 2008 US gov was already a division of Wall Street.

Obama was the choice of the financial capital. With Trump's victory the industrial capital managed to gain some ground back but not too much.


becoin, you're very observant. I agree.

Bush and Obama caved to the "club" and became club members themselves, the club being the Deepstate - Fed/Bankers/Megacorp/Wallstreet with their Globalist world financial agenda. That is why the MSM largely gave both of them a pass.

But Trump is pushing back, and that's why the Deepstate controlled MSM is out to hang him on something. They want him out of office now because he's not completely on board with selling out the U.S. citizens and continuing the U.S. demise.



Could we stop having conversations during sideways action and focus on discussing said sideways action?


Nope.
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June 22, 2017, 12:35:31 PM

Any idea what's different about the mechanisms that creates that problem?

The reason exchanges have to turn off Ethereum time and time again is probably just shoddy code. The software doesn't really behave well under load.

But the reason scaling is problematic is the nature of the scripting engine. It's supposed to do everything for everone, so the number of corner cases with exponential validation is unknown. The transaction fee system on top of that is centrally managed, not in theory but in practice. That doesn't adapt fast enough for rapid load changes.

When I peruse a forum on it I feel like your old auntie looking at a Bitcoin forum because she has to pay her revenge porn ransom.

Oh dear, the images in my head.
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June 22, 2017, 01:22:25 PM

And on topic: Did you see how the price is on the rise again? Do you think there is a link with the segwit2x increasing support?

No. None. Absolutely not.

Seriously though, if people think that the whole rise last year and this year is attributed to an eventual Bitcoin scaling resolution, then they aren't paying attention to greater economic forces happening in the world.

But feel free to discuss whatever miopic thing that might give a reason for the price rise.

Hey I know... can we blame the bitcoin price rise on the ETH shitcoin ICO flash crash yesterday? Yeah yeah, that sounds good.
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June 22, 2017, 01:27:11 PM

While we were busy being all thinky about it somebody crashed ETH down to ten cents. They're calling it 'The Floppening' Cool

ETH is well above $300, but this topic is not about ETH

This thread is about Bitcoin price, therefore anything impacting Bitcoin price is "on topic", right?

Next target on july is 3300$.. Wink
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So a few crypto talking heads on youtube have highlighted how they supposedly won big with shitcoins. People all over youtube are now talking about how much they are making with all these shitcoins, and are pretty much divested mostly out of Bitcoin atm.

Verdict: The Flippening (Floppening?) is now complete. This is exactly what "they" wanted to happen. Instead of weak hands being pushed back into fiat like in the old days, "they" have now managed to get these weak hand n00bs divested and locked in to various shitcoins instead.

This is going to be epic when Bitcoin continues it's rise while Altlandia stagnates and goes nowhere. The noobs won't realize what is happening until it's too late.
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June 22, 2017, 02:52:31 PM

never really seen bitcoin just hover below a previous ATH before. what's the deal?
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June 22, 2017, 02:55:20 PM

never really seen bitcoin just hover below a previous ATH before. what's the deal?

Feels like consolidation before we make the push through $3.5k+
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June 22, 2017, 02:56:45 PM

never really seen bitcoin just hover below a previous ATH before. what's the deal?

Feels like consolidation before we make the push through $3.5k+

I believe this called coiling. We be coiling mos def
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June 22, 2017, 02:57:23 PM

never really seen bitcoin just hover below a previous ATH before. what's the deal?

The phenomenon has been going on pretty much throughout the whole of 2017, that is what makes it so very amazing.. ongoing and consistent upwards pressures that have not really gotten so overheated as to lose support.  In other words, the rise in price has not been so outrageous as to lose support.

As some might say, slow and steady.... blah blah blah. go bitcoin go...  Wink
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June 22, 2017, 02:58:03 PM

never really seen bitcoin just hover below a previous ATH before. what's the deal?

Feels like consolidation before we make the push through $3.5k+

+1 Cool
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June 22, 2017, 02:59:16 PM

As some might say, slow and steady.... blah blah blah. go bitcoin go...  Wink

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June 22, 2017, 03:01:04 PM

never really seen bitcoin just hover below a previous ATH before. what's the deal?


it is strange, you are right. on the other hand: was there ever an epic run up without an even more epic crazy blow off in the last few days of the bubble? something like doubling in 3 days or so?

i guess something´s got to give.
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June 22, 2017, 03:02:31 PM

As some might say, slow and steady.... blah blah blah. go bitcoin go...  Wink



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