Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[xhomerx10]

Look at the charts and it really appears that we are currently on a very temporary pause from our current UP.  or UPTREND or whatever we want to call it... so yeah, an additional push down in the range would be o.k... but it seems that we are mostly inclined for UP.. and likely there is some disgruntled altcoin pumpers and anti-bitcoin folk who want hope that bitcoin does not punish them and that possibly they get their own little pumps.  Certainly, I am not writing off the alt pumpers, that's for sure.

Regarding UP.. Surely, I am in a position that is way better than I had expected, and sometimes it remains difficult to replan and reassess and to just consider what it is that you have and how you are going to either preserve it or allow it to grow - to the extent it is inclined to grown.

Generally, my practice has been to set my sell orders in increments about 30% to 50% above the current market price; however, if we have a large dip, such as the 40% dip from mid-September, generally, I will leave my outstanding sell orders - so then they might become a bit ridiculous, even in the 150% higher than the dip price - seemingly unrealistic, too.

Anyhow, as the price goes up, and if if goes up a lot, then there has become some needs for me to look at how my holdings of fiat and BTC is playing out and to perhaps jigger or readjust matters, and sometimes, I just don't really know until I go through some kind of process to consider and reconsider my tentative plan.

In this regard, in recent days, I went through a hypothetical process on one of my trading exchanges, just to consider how sell orders might play out and how many BTC I need to have (and how many dollars I might accumulate) to set my sell orders up to $15k... Yeah... .o.k... o.k... it is a bit of a fantasy, no, and it is nearly 3.5x of current prices.  I have various personalized charts and excel spreadsheets that i have customized and used; however, still was a good drill for me to set sell orders up to $15k in order to attempt to verify some information and whether my created spreadsheet projections line up with a possible real world scenario of filling orders up to $15k. 

Actually, one thing that I realize when I set these high projected sell orders and also when I project on my spreadsheets, there are scenarios that I project that anticipate the possibility of a price explosion that goes straight up 3x or whatever is the number - however, most likely in the real world there is almost never any straight up scenario, so we are nearly inevitably going to have various ups and downs along the way.... even thought there may be a less than 5% chance of going straight up - though I think that my projections account for both scenarios, but not as well for the UP and DOWN along the way scenario because the extent and duration of the DOWN portion of the scenario remains fairly difficult to pinpoint but only to ballpark it.. in such a way that after it plays out, then the specifics become known and the rest of the scenario can be retweaked.

[buyandhold]

End Of The Line for fiat currencies
and for Tom Petty rip
https://youtu.be/cwqhdRs4jyA

[bitserve]

Sorry can't help this, but it's on my mind.

Mandalay Bay hotel in Las Vegas. Thick plate glass, tinted windows that can't be opened from the inside. Completely sealed. For climate control purposes as well as to deter jumpers. For someone to shoot out or smash those windows, it would make one hell of a noise. Not to mention the shards of glass raining down into the streets below, hitting anyone in it's path. At least someone would see it or hear it, either inside the hotel or on the street. But no one did.

But what if... the window was still completely intact during the shooting?

Photo from the night during the shooting:
https://i.imgur.com/A2PDtbQ.jpg

Photo of the next morning:
https://i.imgur.com/jbyxsnO.jpg

And if there was only one shooter, then why are there two windows smashed?  

If that is one their "Panoramic View" Suites, and it might be considering their corner location, it could be two windows of the same room.

Anyways... those windows have thick glass but are not bulletproof at all, besides he could have used other means to break it before the shooting. Also the second window could have been broken by police gunfire when they entered the room.

The first photo is too bad quality to determine that the glass is not broken as you seem to imply. Hard to tell when it is dark outside and inside the room. It is way easier in the day when the mirroring treatment reflects the sun (as seen in the second photo which also have way better quality)

I don't see any conspiracy here. Just another tragic crime.

[mymenace]

Sorry can't help this, but it's on my mind.

Mandalay Bay hotel in Las Vegas. Thick plate glass, tinted windows that can't be opened from the inside. Completely sealed. For climate control purposes as well as to deter jumpers. For someone to shoot out or smash those windows, it would make one hell of a noise. Not to mention the shards of glass raining down into the streets below, hitting anyone in it's path. At least someone would see it or hear it, either inside the hotel or on the street. But no one did.

But what if... the window was still completely intact during the shooting?

Photo from the night during the shooting:
https://i.imgur.com/A2PDtbQ.jpg

Photo of the next morning:
https://i.imgur.com/jbyxsnO.jpg

And if there was only one shooter, then why are there two windows smashed?  

If that is one their "Panoramic View" Suites, and it might be considering their corner location, it could be two windows of the same room.

Anyways... those windows have thick glass but are not bulletproof at all, besides he could have used other means to break it before the shooting. Also the second window could have been broken by police gunfire when they entered the room.

The first photo is too bad quality to determine that the glass is not broken as you seem to imply. Hard to tell when it is dark outside and inside the room. It is way easier in the day when the mirroring treatment reflects the sun (as seen in the second photo which also have way better quality)

I don't see any conspiracy here. Just another tragic crime.

the conspiracy is the lack of reporting

 witnesses 20th floor gunman https://twitter.com/BLVCLVBEL/status/914950523987443712

 witnesses multiple shooters

 witnesses warned before shooting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubi_M44vfrU

does not mean conspiracy but where is the reporting

sounds very false flag at the moment like they want you to know what they are reporting is what happened but have not yet undertaken any investigation

[Arriemoller]

But the problem is that once the voting was declared illegal (and it had to be because it is against Spanish Constitution)

LOL. Since when they care about law?

EU (incl. Spain) funded, trained, organized, and ensured media support for the Nazi gangs in Kiev. It was a coup against democratically elected government of Ukraine and against Ukrainian Constitution.

Aah, a Russian troll. I have a picture for you.



(For you Americans, it's the king of Sweden holding Vladimir Putin of Russia).

[jojo69]

I don't see any conspiracy here. Just another tragic crime.

There is really no way to know, and may never be.  In this day and age all possibilities should be considered.

It is certainly not necessary for there to be multiple shooters, or indeed no shooters, for the event to be a false flag.  Allow me to illuminate the playbook for those lacking in imagination or pessimism.

The agency in question (the acronym of the moment is unimportant) maintains a network of practicing psychiatrists who keep their eyes out for promising subjects.  In this way a steady stream of people already seeking help for psychological problems can be assayed.  Once a particularly promising subject is identified an operation is crafted around their particular circumstance.  The subject is prescribed a cocktail of psychotropic pharmaceuticals often including, but not limited to, various SSRIs to make them more susceptible to suggestion.  Then, the subject's environment is altered by various means to begin implanting the suggestion.  This may include sub-audible bombardment of their home, alteration of their news and social media feeds and seemingly "random" encounters with other people.  The combination of drugs and suggestion is worked to a fever pitch until the subject acts out.  The operators may not even have to know the specifics of the action.  Through the crafting of the suggestion they place the subject on a certain course, but may leave the actual planning and execution to the subject.

Do I have any proof of this?  Of course not, but it is the logical extension of the decades old MK Ultra work that we do know about.  It is also certainly what I would do were I a Machiavellian deep state fuck.

[JayJuanGee]

There is a lot of downward pressure right now.. or at least a holding pattern.. but at the same time, the bearwhales cannot get the price to go down.  Maybe we could go down to $4200 before resuming our upwards, perhaps?

[Wexlike]

There is a lot of downward pressure right now.. or at least a holding pattern.. but at the same time, the bearwhales cannot get the price to go down.  Maybe we could go down to $4200 before resuming our upwards, perhaps?

Talking your book, eh ?

[mymenace]

I don't see any conspiracy here. Just another tragic crime.

There is really no way to know, and may never be.  In this day and age all possibilities should be considered.

It is certainly not necessary for there to be multiple shooters, or indeed no shooters, for the event to be a false flag.  Allow me to illuminate the playbook for those lacking in imagination or pessimism.

The agency in question (the acronym of the moment is unimportant) maintains a network of practicing psychiatrists who keep their eyes out for promising subjects.  In this way a steady stream of people already seeking help for psychological problems can be assayed.  Once a particularly promising subject is identified an operation is crafted around their particular circumstance.  The subject is prescribed a cocktail of psychotropic pharmaceuticals often including, but not limited to, various SSRIs to make them more susceptible to suggestion.  Then, the subject's environment is altered by various means to begin implanting the suggestion.  This may include sub-audible bombardment of their home, alteration of their news and social media feeds and seemingly "random" encounters with other people.  The combination of drugs and suggestion is worked to a fever pitch until the subject acts out.  The operators may not even have to know the specifics of the action.  Through the crafting of the suggestion they place the subject on a certain course, but may leave the actual planning and execution to the subject.

Do I have any proof of this?  Of course not, but it is the logical extension of the decades old MK Ultra work that we do know about.  It is also certainly what I would do were I a Machiavellian deep state fuck.

Proof is in the freedom of information released papers of the MKUltra project, it was a conspiracy for decades when i grew up and proven correct through release of government documents.


Brainwashing works and quite easily, bitcoiners believe bitcoin is the ultimate freedom of choice, while if you look at how it can centralise a one world currency and is completely traceable one might think it was NSA/CIA built.

Wherein lies the truth, but in the actions of oppression and control, so far all supposedly illegal bitcoiners are being arrested traced by blockchain. Could satoshi dream this would happen.

[jojo69]

freedom of information

Not to be pedantic, but I am not sure the MKUltra documents were released pursuant to  5 U.S.C. § 552.  I was under the impression they came to light as a result of the Church committee report with further clarification in the '84 GAO report.

Regardless, we know full well what they do.  Nice segue back to BTC by the way.   

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[yefi]

The heavy-handed response of the Spanish government only served to increase support for Catalan independence. The world saw images of bloodied elderly women and ballot boxes being seized.

Do Spanish politicians have no political nous whatsoever? It's like they selected the dumbest response possible. All they need to do now is bombard Barcelona and laud themselves internationally.

[RoomBot]

freedom of information

Not to be pedantic, but I am not sure the MKUltra documents were released pursuant to  5 U.S.C. § 552.  I was under the impression they came to light as a result of the Church committee report with further clarification in the '84 GAO report.

Regardless, we know full well what they do.  Nice segue back to BTC by the way.  

It's not ENTIRELY off-topic.... Bitcoiners have wildly differing views on Big Government, but most of us distrust it for good reason, (including stupid human tricks like MK Ultra) which is why we love BTC

[yefi]

There is a lot of downward pressure right now.. or at least a holding pattern.. but at the same time, the bearwhales cannot get the price to go down.  Maybe we could go down to $4200 before resuming our upwards, perhaps?

Bearwhales probably playing on fears of a head and shoulders pattern emerging. Bull case is still intact from my perspective though.

[RoomBot]

End Of The Line for fiat currencies
and for Tom Petty rip
https://youtu.be/cwqhdRs4jyA

From his daughter to Rolling Stone TODAY:  "FUCK YOU MY DAD IS NOT DEAD!"

https://twitter.com/jackieradinsky/status/914983791084544000

and

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZwuOLpBTpr/?hl=en

Now back to our regularly scheduled MOON SHOT.

[jbreher]

End Of The Line for fiat currencies
and for Tom Petty rip
https://youtu.be/cwqhdRs4jyA

Damn shame if confirmed.

Roy... gone
George... gone
Tom... news seems ambiguous still
Should Jeff & Bob be looking over their shoulder?

[LewisPirenne]

https://blockchain.info/tx/a360296ea7c57adbcf55ebe9668373078bc3c24b6b5c7cd96d83b2db5fe288ba

Someone is literally spamming 10MB worth of these txs.  0.04 BTC fees and only 273 satoshi worth of output, so all goes to miner, but with large size (44K bytes per tx).   

[Dabs]

what's the list about?

[bones261]

what's the list about?

Contest for date when we hit ATH.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Here's some thuggish state violence you might enjoy.
https://twitter.com/TheLocalSpain/status/914447014162771970?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slate.com%2Fblogs%2Fthe_slatest%2F2017%2F10%2F01%2Fhundreds_injured_as_spanish_police_beat_up_referendum_voters_in_catalonia.html

State-sponsored violence against the people:
First in a country far from you. Then in a country near you. Finally in your country.

Oh, it has been in your country for quite som while now, remember the civil war? (no, not personally).
The Spanish police throwing a few people down the stairs when a state tries to secede is pretty calm compared to throwing the country into a civil war when a state wants to secede.

^^ This.

But there is only ONE state in Spain. There are some people that seem to want to "secede".... We are fine with that, as long as they do it outside Spanish territory. Maybe they should move to France and try to do that stunt there... I don't think their police will be as soft with their "secesion" attempts.

I think Catalonia considers themselves to be a state, I mean, they even have their own president and police.

They can consider whatever they want, but it isn't.

Spain has 17 "autonomous comunities" which are regions where SOME estatal (there is only ONE state: Spain) competencies have been delegated. Thus they all have their own LOCAL regional representatives... but there is only one President of the Spanish Government and one King (whose function in practice and by law is more "PR" than "ruling").

They do have a president of their region (as do have the other 16) but think about him more as the equivalent of a city major but on a regional level. Regions are not states. So this is more like if tomorrow Las Vegas tried to secede from United States.

Most of spanish people is in favor of the supression of ALL autonomies for the main reason that it represents a HUGE economic burden because of the redundancy of some functions and costs.

And then, there are some regions such as Cataluña that have been as much benefited from this system that they keep "pressing" trying to obtain more and more using the constant "menace" of "independence".

We are completely fed up by that attitude and many consider this is an extortion to the state that should have been put to an stop many years ago.

In fact the extortion is going the opposite way. Why do you think State-sponsored violence to stop peaceful voting has become necessary? If Catalonia was poor and a net bludger they wouldn't bother with spending resources keeping them in Spain. It is because Catalonia is wealthy and supplies a huge amount of the taxes to the bludging, corrupt, free-loaders in the south that they send in Policia to keep the gravy flowing ... it's the usual violence for money racket that happens with all loser Socialist governments all around the world. Basically it really is armed robbery or 'extortion'. But there is also a bigger picture.

https://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/05/catalonia-is-critical-contributor-to-spains-economy.html

Despite only accounting for about 16 percent of the Spanish population, Catalonia represents about 25 percent of all Spanish exports, and it accounted for 23 percent of all Spanish industry, according to the regional government.

Why is the EU silent on blatant facism (police brutality to prevent democratic voting) inside it's members? Because Spain is so loaded up with unsustainable debt that if Spain goes bankrupt so does the EU blow up. If Catalonia leaves Spain then the EU is finished, bankrupted, over. Just when International democratic condemnation of facist Spain should have been reaching a fever pitch, USA has yet another mass-shooting event. How extraordinary that the global financial system seems to keep getting saved by these exquisitely timed 'terror' and mass-shooting events.

If any one of these aces should pull out of the global financial system house of cards, the entire edifice that is the global debt pyramid will collapse. The stakes could not be higher, anything goes now for the "overseers" who know the stakes and have access to the resources to create events that 'bend' the will of the people at critical junctures.