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[txtravwill]

So if I remember correctly Ripple labs own what 50billion XRP giving them a market value in the $175bn area or rough 3.5 Tesla's, 3 general motors or slightly less than 1 Volkswagen, why buy a Lambo when you can buy the company that makes them.

Yeah, the fact that RippleLabs is like one of the top 5-10 companies in the world explains that XRP is a bit of a speculative bubble at best or at minimum overvalued now.  It is a social media phenomenon though being pumped like crazy.  Isn't even THAT easy to buy yet so it may have a ways to go but needs a good correction or two soon.

[itod]

So if I remember correctly Ripple labs own what 50billion XRP giving them a market value in the $175bn area or rough 3.5 Tesla's, 3 general motors or slightly less than 1 Volkswagen, why buy a Lambo when you can buy the company that makes them.

Mind boggling, isn't it? It gets worse when you consider they have a product with 0 actual use anywhere, and questionable technology which can be hardly called cryptocurrency at all. My only fear is that their doom and fall to abyss will have devastating affect on average Joe's trust in crypto.

[Paashaas]

I see more activity in Bcash blocks than Ripples network...lol

$140b mc with no users...lol

Those Ripple founders became 'instant' billionairs...lol

[Toxic2040]

Is that an e(a)th meme?

Good morning.  Lets see some of your TA?  No...never posted any?  Only post cute little meme's and take shots aimed at the back?  I see..
Let me know when you find the courage to put something possibly constructive out there for others to criticize without worrying about "oh no! what do the forum trolls think of me?!?"

Have a nice day.


Yes, I am grumpy in the morning.

OT

I think maybe everyone is a bit too focused on the CMC and not trade volumes. The velocity of the coins in circulation seems to be a more important metric. Even then, are these actual trades or just wash.

[mike4001]

Back at 15k

Ripple, Cardano, NEM, Stellar got a small bump.

No go on .. :-)

[keyboard warrior]

Back at 15k

A year ago nobody believed it could get to 15k by 2018. That's an amazing price to stabilize at.

[Wekkel]

Things are looking good. Just wait until the Mothership starts moving again. The Fiat Magnet is not done yet.

[mymenace]

unfortunately they figured out that people greed is the best tool to beat BTC

Do you not understand Bitcoin? Bitcoin runs on greed. Creating a way to channel each person's greed to serve the system as a whole was Satoshi's central innovation.

that's so not true, man, it's the technology dammit, and the freedom from slavery

Yes and if its freedom , what are we going to do when the slave owners come after us


Taxman, Banks, Credit, have used government policy and military very well to get their own way

http://investmentwatchblog.com/expert-predicts-bill-and-hillary-clinton-will-both-be-convicted-bigly-for-crimes-in-2018-as-their-house-of-cards-comes-crashing-down/

2 of the biggest promoters of the taxman, banks and generally ripping everything off, polluting politics in every country





now if the world really is changing to freedom you would see

1) Biggest political financier for the corrupt arrested    - 11 saudi princes
2) Remove CIA dictators                                            -  1 Zimbabwe President
3) Destroy Drug manufacturers                                  -  Afghan drug labs blown up
4) Stop terrorism                                                      - defeat of Isis in Iraq, Afghan and Syria (Obama's ISIS funded military)
5) Arrest human traffickers                                        - the happening


oh that is happening

[HanvanBitcoin]

Things are looking good. Just wait until the Mothership starts moving again. The Fiat Magnet is not done yet.

Hope you are right. I exchanged my whole ripple stash that i bought last year for BTCTC today Almost doubled my total BTCTC stash

[ParabellumLite]

So if I remember correctly Ripple labs own what 50billion XRP giving them a market value in the $175bn area or rough 3.5 Tesla's, 3 general motors or slightly less than 1 Volkswagen, why buy a Lambo when you can buy the company that makes them.

Mind boggling, isn't it? It gets worse when you consider they have a product with 0 actual use anywhere, and questionable technology which can be hardly called cryptocurrency at all. My only fear is that their doom and fall to abyss will have devastating affect on average Joe's trust in crypto.

Indeed, let us forget all the deals with banks Ripple made - like the one with SBI. Or the fact that Ripple will use its technology for credit card payments.
Just one example here: https://ripple.com/insights/american-express-joins-ripplenet-giving-visibility-and-speed-to-global-commercial-payments/
Here's more: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/27/ripple-jumps-after-news-of-link-to-some-japanese-credit-card-companies.html

Really, it is so easy to pick out the guys here that haven't read up on Ripple in ages, or just read whatever false information they find out there on Twitter. There is nothing 'mind boggling' about Ripple's rise: it makes total sense, if you actually took a good look at what is going on. Not to mention that the accusation 'with 0 actual use anywhere' could more or less be let loose at BTC, which is nearly exclusively being held for speculative purposes, but I'll just let that one slip.

If Bitcoin's funeral is indeed to start after this pennant closes, I think the flippening could happen as soon as around January 20th.  Not that it matters much, but quite a few people here care about it - so there you have it.

[philip2000uk]

still dont see bch in my cb i thought we get some

[Wekkel]

If Bitcoin's funeral is indeed to start after this pennant closes, I think the flippening could happen as soon as around January 20th.

Nope. Bitcoin rally to recommence on 18 January. You heard it here first 

[Gab0]

If you think that, you truly are an ignorant idiot.

Lauda, please excuse us. We are not used to having the privilege of being able to count on the presence of geniuses like you. Nobody would think that in a forum lost on the internet there are people who spend so much time in their lives reminding us what an idiot we are. Thank you, thank you for enlightening us with your sacred truth, and for every "idiot" and "stupid" you give us.

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You're an idiot....
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All of those people are idiots. Con men tend to appear on the stage quite often.

If you are surviving by spamming sig. campaigns, you're an idiot who deserves to be permanently banned from here.

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You're an idiot.
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Stop shilling and get educated, idiot.

Go away from this thread already, idiot. This thread is only for Bitsend.

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I assume stupidity.

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I'm not sure if you're stupid or trolling.
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Money hungry? You're an idiot.
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Shill account created for pumping BCH? I wonder if you're on Roger Ver's payroll or whether you're just a bamboozled idiot.

[...] Please fully read the thread before you ask redundant or stupid questions.

Tu fuente es Jonald? Idiota
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O eres un "paid shill", "bamboozled" o simplemente directamente estúpido.

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Anyone who thinks what Wordpress is secure is an idiot to begin with.
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1) Stupid idea.
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4) Close this stupid thread.

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That is not Lutpin's list, that is the combined SMAS list, idiot.
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You're an idiot, aolley.
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OP, you're an idiot who is highly unstable. Please go away already and don't come back.

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Whether it is going in the direction that Satoshi envisioned or not is irrelevant and anyone who appeals to that is an idiot.
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Vitalik is a corporate sellout/idiot, yes.
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Let me shorten it into layman terms for you, had you not been a idiot and (allegedly) wasted your time with shitcoins, then this would already have been solved (or never happened to begin with).
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Wrong. We need the idiots out of the way.
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Anyone knowledgeable enough would simply see the stupidity of that question. Then again, big blockists aren't famous for their intellect nor knowledge.
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He's stupid enough to realize that agencies such as NSA have infiltrated both sides (especially his) and are manipulating him, as his technical knowledge is very shallow.
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This statement is completely false on all levels -> you're an idiot. Stop posting bullshit.
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If your financial life is reliant on bounty campaigns, then you're an idiot and should not have access to those to begin with.
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You're an idiot. Go away already.

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You're an idiot.

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Stop spamming with your bullshit, idiot.

This list could easily be extended a couple of pages.

[d_eddie]

This description is the reality ... LN is the future and i think in june 18 ... btc reach 40k usd

Any reason for this particular date?

[windjc]

So if I remember correctly Ripple labs own what 50billion XRP giving them a market value in the $175bn area or rough 3.5 Tesla's, 3 general motors or slightly less than 1 Volkswagen, why buy a Lambo when you can buy the company that makes them.

Mind boggling, isn't it? It gets worse when you consider they have a product with 0 actual use anywhere, and questionable technology which can be hardly called cryptocurrency at all. My only fear is that their doom and fall to abyss will have devastating affect on average Joe's trust in crypto.

Indeed, let us forget all the deals with banks Ripple made - like the one with SBI. Or the fact that Ripple will use its technology for credit card payments.
Just one example here: https://ripple.com/insights/american-express-joins-ripplenet-giving-visibility-and-speed-to-global-commercial-payments/
Here's more: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/27/ripple-jumps-after-news-of-link-to-some-japanese-credit-card-companies.html

Really, it is so easy to pick out the guys here that haven't read up on Ripple in ages, or just read whatever false information they find out there on Twitter. There is nothing 'mind boggling' about Ripple's rise: it makes total sense, if you actually took a good look at what is going on. Not to mention that the accusation 'with 0 actual use anywhere' could more or less be let loose at BTC, which is nearly exclusively being held for speculative purposes, but I'll just let that one slip.

If Bitcoin's funeral is indeed to start after this pennant closes, I think the flippening could happen as soon as around January 20th.  Not that it matters much, but quite a few people here care about it - so there you have it.

You havent read the DETAILS. All of these projects are experiments. No one has decided to use Ripple after testing it.

Please name ONE major company or bank that has greenlighted Ripple use.

[ParabellumLite]

So if I remember correctly Ripple labs own what 50billion XRP giving them a market value in the $175bn area or rough 3.5 Tesla's, 3 general motors or slightly less than 1 Volkswagen, why buy a Lambo when you can buy the company that makes them.

Mind boggling, isn't it? It gets worse when you consider they have a product with 0 actual use anywhere, and questionable technology which can be hardly called cryptocurrency at all. My only fear is that their doom and fall to abyss will have devastating affect on average Joe's trust in crypto.

Indeed, let us forget all the deals with banks Ripple made - like the one with SBI. Or the fact that Ripple will use its technology for credit card payments.
Just one example here: https://ripple.com/insights/american-express-joins-ripplenet-giving-visibility-and-speed-to-global-commercial-payments/
Here's more: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/27/ripple-jumps-after-news-of-link-to-some-japanese-credit-card-companies.html

Really, it is so easy to pick out the guys here that haven't read up on Ripple in ages, or just read whatever false information they find out there on Twitter. There is nothing 'mind boggling' about Ripple's rise: it makes total sense, if you actually took a good look at what is going on. Not to mention that the accusation 'with 0 actual use anywhere' could more or less be let loose at BTC, which is nearly exclusively being held for speculative purposes, but I'll just let that one slip.

If Bitcoin's funeral is indeed to start after this pennant closes, I think the flippening could happen as soon as around January 20th.  Not that it matters much, but quite a few people here care about it - so there you have it.

You havent read the DETAILS. All of these projects are experiments. No one has decided to use Ripple after testing it.

Please name ONE major company or bank that has greenlighted Ripple use.

Will a group of banks do? SBI is the name of the game in that case.
Start informing yourself from this point onwards: you might actually see the value in it as well. That being: if you are open minded enough to do so. That's my challenge to you.

[windjc]

So if I remember correctly Ripple labs own what 50billion XRP giving them a market value in the $175bn area or rough 3.5 Tesla's, 3 general motors or slightly less than 1 Volkswagen, why buy a Lambo when you can buy the company that makes them.

Mind boggling, isn't it? It gets worse when you consider they have a product with 0 actual use anywhere, and questionable technology which can be hardly called cryptocurrency at all. My only fear is that their doom and fall to abyss will have devastating affect on average Joe's trust in crypto.

Indeed, let us forget all the deals with banks Ripple made - like the one with SBI. Or the fact that Ripple will use its technology for credit card payments.
Just one example here: https://ripple.com/insights/american-express-joins-ripplenet-giving-visibility-and-speed-to-global-commercial-payments/
Here's more: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/27/ripple-jumps-after-news-of-link-to-some-japanese-credit-card-companies.html

Really, it is so easy to pick out the guys here that haven't read up on Ripple in ages, or just read whatever false information they find out there on Twitter. There is nothing 'mind boggling' about Ripple's rise: it makes total sense, if you actually took a good look at what is going on. Not to mention that the accusation 'with 0 actual use anywhere' could more or less be let loose at BTC, which is nearly exclusively being held for speculative purposes, but I'll just let that one slip.

If Bitcoin's funeral is indeed to start after this pennant closes, I think the flippening could happen as soon as around January 20th.  Not that it matters much, but quite a few people here care about it - so there you have it.

You havent read the DETAILS. All of these projects are experiments. No one has decided to use Ripple after testing it.

Please name ONE major company or bank that has greenlighted Ripple use.

Will a group of banks do? SBI is the name of the game in that case.
Start informing yourself from this point onwards: you might actually see the value in it as well. That being: if you are open minded enough to do so. That's my challenge to you.

SBI is not using Ripple in any commercial case.

You can of course prove me wrong by showing the on-chain transactions that are resulting from this use

BTW, looking back at your post history, I enjoyed seeing nothing but Bitcoin bearish posts since 2014. Good job on the gloom and doom. LOL

[sirazimuth]

quotes with lots of idiots and stupid

This list could easily be extended a couple of pages.

lol... nice compilation  there bud

and while you're at it, you could do the same with a certain frequent poster in here.
just use "centralized craptocurrrency", "pms", "jews and cuckolds" for search words,
the resulting list would extend thousands of pages....

[HairyMaclairy]

Ripple has failed every bank pilot and they have done dozens of them. Ripple is in the process of being failed out of the Santander bank pilot. No one in the banking world uses it all.  Ripple Labs holds 60 billion “non-circulating” tokens which are not counted against the 30 billion currently circulating. Ripple Labs could permanently crush the price instantly with the wave of a wand.  Stellar is just a fork of Ripple and wholly centralized.

Meanwhile the price rise of Ethereum is destroying its capability to act as the Ethereum Virtual Machine.  You think transaction fees are bad on Bitcoin ?  I can assure you that gas costs would destroy any business which is attempted to be built using an ERC-20 token, including Tron which is #10 in market cap.  The only reason these tokens are not affected is because they don’t have businesses - they are

Until someone can show me a coin that is not a complete turd, then I am going to have to assume that the current run up is nothing more than a series of coordinated whale pumps.  Which is lovely and all. 

[gentlemand]

Ripple has failed every bank pilot and they have done dozens of them. Ripple is in the process of being failed out of the Santander bank pilot. No one in the banking world uses it all.  Ripple Labs holds 60 billion “non-circulating” tokens which are not counted against the 30 billion currently circulating. Ripple Labs could permanently crush the price instantly with the wave of a wand.  Stellar is just a fork of Ripple and wholly centralized.

Meanwhile the price rise of Ethereum is destroying its capability to act as the Ethereum Virtual Machine.  You think transaction fees are bad on Bitcoin ?  I can assure you that gas costs would destroy any business which is attempted to be built using an ERC-20 token, including Tron which is #10 in market cap.  The only reason these tokens are not affected is because they don’t have businesses - they are

Until someone can show me a coin that is not a complete turd, then I am going to have to assume that the current run up is nothing more than a series of coordinated whale pumps.  Which is lovely and all. 

Same tale with almost all of them. No business will use any of the actual public systems even if they were any good. They'll lift the code and run away with it. That doesn't stop denialists pumping them and never will.