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[CoinCube]

Divorce is the leading cause of suicide for men and the divorce rate is well north of 50%. No fucking way.

Then there is all the ridiculous stuff. Nevermind the pandemic of false rape charges, a woman is suing a man for "stretching her vagine with his unusually large dick so it has become loose". This shit is only going to get worse, and so will the divorce laws, which is also to say, the divorce incentives.

There is no doubt that divorce is very bad news. However, it is a risk which can be minimized.

Married Couples Who Attend Church Services Together Are Less Likely to Divorce
http://www.christianpost.com/news/married-couples-who-attend-church-services-together-are-less-likely-to-divorce-study-171853/

Married couples who attend church services together are more likely to live longer, are less likely to be depressed, and less likely to get divorced, according to a new study conducted by a professor at the Harvard School of Public Health.

The study, titled "Religion and Health: A Synthesis," conducted by Tyler J. VanderWeele, professor of epidemiology at the Harvard School of Public Health, noted that religious service attendance is connected to "better health outcomes, including longer life, lower incidence of depression, and less suicide," the Institute for Family Studies noted on Tuesday.

According to the study, religious service attendance is also "associated with greater marital stability — or more specifically, with a lower likelihood of divorce."

Married couples who attend religious services are 30 to 50 percent less likely to get divorced than those who do not, the study asserts. Such couples are also nearly 30 percent less likely to be depressed and, over a 16-year follow-up period, were shown to have significantly lower risk of dying.

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Though some might criticize the marital stability data by suggesting that those contemplating divorce might be more likely to stop attending religious services, the researchers took that into account.

By looking into the timing of changes in religious service attendance, VanderWeele said, "we were able to control for this possibility, and the results persisted: those who attended religious services were 47 percent less likely to subsequently divorce."

"Religion is, of course, not principally about promoting physical health or decreasing the likelihood of divorce, but about communion with God," he said, and efforts to commune with God have "profound implications for numerous other aspects of life, including health and marriage."

While Christians understand and interpret the word "religion" and everything it entails differently than academic researchers, the operative definition VanderWeele posits for the study is: "the pursuit of complete human well-being: physical, mental, social, and spiritual."

Taken together, "religion is about both communion with God and the restoration of all people to their intended state of complete wholeness and well-being. The evidence suggests that it can indeed accomplish both," he said.

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"The religious community provides social support, a constant reinforcement and reminder of the religious teachings, family programs, and a communal worship and experience of God. I would not say that good marriages need a community to thrive, but it certainly does help!"

Also further improvements in ones odds can likely be obtained if one chooses a spouse with an understanding of what matters most in life.

https://www.prageru.com/courses/life-studies/what-matters-most-life

[Ibian]

Divorce is the leading cause of suicide for men and the divorce rate is well north of 50%. No fucking way.

Then there is all the ridiculous stuff. Nevermind the pandemic of false rape charges, a woman is suing a man for "stretching her vagine with his unusually large dick so it has become loose". This shit is only going to get worse, and so will the divorce laws, which is also to say, the divorce incentives.

There is no doubt that divorce is very bad news. However, it is a risk which can be minimized.

<religious snip>

Also further improvements in ones odds can likely be obtained if one chooses a spouse with an understanding of what matters most in life.

https://www.prageru.com/courses/life-studies/what-matters-most-life

No. Just no. There is no way to credibly reduce the risk to something even approaching acceptable levels.

It's all about incentives. Women, especially the women we have today, don't actually have the ability to love like they did a few generations ago. It's all about immediate incentives, little things like taking half of everything you own plus future income plus money for the children that can be spent in whatever way she wants. It's the entire system that's fucked.

[Elwar]

I don't see why a male with common sense would get married, makes absolutely zero sense.

Only guys I know that get married are true betas that worship women.

 Mainly because it gives me someone to shoot my cum in to that I don’t have to pretend to like.

There are cheaper ways of doing this.

[QuestionAuthority]

I don't see why a male with common sense would get married, makes absolutely zero sense.

Only guys I know that get married are true betas that worship women.

 Mainly because it gives me someone to shoot my cum in to that I don’t have to pretend to like.

There are cheaper ways of doing this.

True, but not as convenient.

[Elwar]

I don't see why a male with common sense would get married, makes absolutely zero sense.

Only guys I know that get married are true betas that worship women.

 Mainly because it gives me someone to shoot my cum in to that I don’t have to pretend to like.

There are cheaper ways of doing this.

True, but not as convenient.

*in the US

[CoinCube]

No. Just no. There is no way to credibly reduce the risk to something even approaching acceptable levels.

It's all about incentives. Women, especially the women we have today, don't actually have the ability to love like they did a few generations ago. It's all about immediate incentives, little things like taking half of everything you own plus future income plus money for the children that can be spent in whatever way she wants. It's the entire system that's fucked.

Well I am happily married for 11 years now so I am biased. Nevertheless, a 47% reduction in divorce risk is substantial. I was impressed when I came across that study. Combine that strategy with a prenup and I think the risk is manageable even if you have money if one seeks out character over aesthetics.

Everyone has there own risk threshold's for these things.

[Ibian]

I don't see why a male with common sense would get married, makes absolutely zero sense.

Only guys I know that get married are true betas that worship women.

 Mainly because it gives me someone to shoot my cum in to that I don’t have to pretend to like.

There are cheaper ways of doing this.

True, but not as convenient.

Only if it has to be an actual human. Which may be the case for you and fair enough if so. But as a blanket statement it's the most needlessly convoluted way of going about it.

[Ibian]

No. Just no. There is no way to credibly reduce the risk to something even approaching acceptable levels.

It's all about incentives. Women, especially the women we have today, don't actually have the ability to love like they did a few generations ago. It's all about immediate incentives, little things like taking half of everything you own plus future income plus money for the children that can be spent in whatever way she wants. It's the entire system that's fucked.

Well I am happily married for 11 years now so I am biased. Nevertheless, a 47% reduction in divorce risk is substantial. I was impressed when I came across that study. Combine that strategy with a prenup
and I think the risk is manageable even if you have money if one seeks out character over aesthetics.

Everyone has there own risk threshold's for these things.

Prenups are worthless, and you can't trust numbers like that. But even if this particular number is true, you still need to ask the question "compared to what?". The odds of a fresh marriage today surviving for ten years, in the form of an intact marriage, is about 3%. So with your religious reduction, that still leaves us over the 50% mark. You have better odds betting everything you own at the casino. Literally. And I use literally in the correct way here.

[QuestionAuthority]

I don't see why a male with common sense would get married, makes absolutely zero sense.

Only guys I know that get married are true betas that worship women.

 Mainly because it gives me someone to shoot my cum in to that I don’t have to pretend to like.

There are cheaper ways of doing this.

True, but not as convenient.

*in the US

True dat. Some parts of the world are so civilized compared to the US.

[rokkyroad]

I don't see why a male with common sense would get married.

Only guys I know that get married are true betas that worship women.

LOL

Let me guess. You have a hard time meeting women ....right?  It does tend to make one bitter. Buck up laddie ...there's someone out there for you.

If you're female change the laddie to lassie and put /men behind women.

[QuestionAuthority]

I don't see why a male with common sense would get married, makes absolutely zero sense.

Only guys I know that get married are true betas that worship women.

 Mainly because it gives me someone to shoot my cum in to that I don’t have to pretend to like.

There are cheaper ways of doing this.

True, but not as convenient.

Only if it has to be an actual human. Which may be the case for you and fair enough if so. But as a blanket statement it's the most needlessly convoluted way of going about it.

It helps if there’s another human present. Although, I did have a golden lab that I was awfully fond of but I was afraid she wouldn’t respect me in the morning.

[mindrust]

I don't see why a male with common sense would get married.

Only guys I know that get married are true betas that worship women.

LOL

Let me guess. You have a hard time meeting women ....right?  It does tend to make one bitter. Buck up laddie ...there's someone out there for you.

Someone? yes. But 99% of the time she isn't the one you are looking for. You are the one she has been looking for.

Unless you get to choose, it doesn't make sense to marry. That's why males are unhappy and cheat their wives in most marriages.

[Ibian]

I don't see why a male with common sense would get married, makes absolutely zero sense.

Only guys I know that get married are true betas that worship women.

 Mainly because it gives me someone to shoot my cum in to that I don’t have to pretend to like.

There are cheaper ways of doing this.

True, but not as convenient.

Only if it has to be an actual human. Which may be the case for you and fair enough if so. But as a blanket statement it's the most needlessly convoluted way of going about it.

It helps if there’s another human present. Although, I did have a golden lab that I was awfully fond of but I was afraid she wouldn’t respect me in the morning.

Or, you know, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3-Jqt6yb7A

[Elwar]

There's a reason why at weddings men wear black and women where white.

I have the same suit for weddings and funerals. Many similarities in both.

[QuestionAuthority]

I don't see why a male with common sense would get married, makes absolutely zero sense.

Only guys I know that get married are true betas that worship women.

 Mainly because it gives me someone to shoot my cum in to that I don’t have to pretend to like.

There are cheaper ways of doing this.

True, but not as convenient.

Only if it has to be an actual human. Which may be the case for you and fair enough if so. But as a blanket statement it's the most needlessly convoluted way of going about it.

It helps if there’s another human present. Although, I did have a golden lab that I was awfully fond of but I was afraid she wouldn’t respect me in the morning.

Or, you know, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3-Jqt6yb7A

A little too impersonal for me. Besides I don’t think it has a “rim job” button. 

[Lambie Slayer]

Hello Lady and Gents
 I havent posted on here since 2015 when my account The Doxing, was banned from posting. Some may remember when I revealed the identity of Lambie, our friendly FT journalist, who was a plague on this thread for too long. She fought it at first but once I started subtly dripping her personal info she realized I was for real and left never too return. I never released any of her personal emails. She is gone and that is what is important. I have been reading this thread daily since 2013 and became a long term hodler in 2014. Ive even read most of JJGs posts although some speedreading and skimming is required. Im still hodling strong over half the coins i started with and happy to see Lambie doesnt plague these forums any more. The most recent dumpfest was more ridiculous imo than the Jan 2015 one so it felt like a good time to drop in and say hello after many years. Despite the rivers of blood, the carnage and the despair we have seen lately, at least NLC isnt flooding us with disgusting porn. Oh yeah and since I havent posted in so long, Ill think Ill call bottom while Im here, a little prediction never hurt anyone. I doubt Ill be back to post again for a long time but Ill be reading and enjoying everyones comments, even Roach who I believe is an undercover permabull of Jewish descent

[CoinCube]

Prenups are worthless, and you can't trust numbers like that. But even if this particular number is true, you still need to ask the question "compared to what?". The odds of a fresh marriage today surviving for ten years, in the form of an intact marriage, is about 3%. So with your religious reduction, that still leaves us over the 50% mark. You have better odds betting everything you own at the casino. Literally. And I use literally in the correct way here.

Disagree about the numbers part.
Risks can be dramatically reduced far beyond 50%.

You just have to choose your spouse wisely when selecting a partner.
Check out these divorce statistics they vary dramatically based on several factors.

https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/


U.S. DIVORCE RATE BY OCCUPATION

Professions with highest divorce rate:
*       Dancers – 43
*       Bartender s- 38.4
*       Massage Therapists – 38.2
*       Gaming Cage Workers – 34.6
*       Gaming Service Workers – 31.3
Professions with lowest divorce rate:
*       Farmers – 7.63
*       Podiatrists – 6.81
*       Clergy – 5.61
*       Optomitrists – 4.01
*       Agricultural Engineers – 1.78


Among the population segments with the lowest likelihood of having been divorced subsequent to marriage are Catholics (28 percent), evangelicals (26 percent),
upscale adults (adults making more than $75000 annually) (22 percent), Asians (20 percent) and those who deem themselves to be conservative on social and
political matters (28%).

Just group a bunch of low risk factors together.
For the absolutely lowest risk marry a conservative religious Asian girl who is highly educated.

Risk then is probably less then 20%.

[Ibian]

Let me just make something clear, for the record. I am not against marriage in principle. If we were still religious and it was a purely cultural function, it would be fine. It used to tie people together. But as it exists today it is a legal contract with the state, and it incentivizes women to divorce.

I am also not against family. Because I have one. It's a very necessary thing. But the laws in the west today, and the US especially, are such that it is a suicidally stupid thing to do.

[Ibian]

Prenups are worthless, and you can't trust numbers like that. But even if this particular number is true, you still need to ask the question "compared to what?". The odds of a fresh marriage today surviving for ten years, in the form of an intact marriage, is about 3%. So with your religious reduction, that still leaves us over the 50% mark. You have better odds betting everything you own at the casino. Literally. And I use literally in the correct way here.

Disagree about the numbers part.
Risks can be dramatically reduced far beyond 50%.

You just have to choose your spouse wisely when selecting a partner.
Check out these divorce statistics they vary dramatically based on several factors.

https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/


U.S. DIVORCE RATE BY OCCUPATION

Professions with highest divorce rate:
*       Dancers – 43
*       Bartender s- 38.4
*       Massage Therapists – 38.2
*       Gaming Cage Workers – 34.6
*       Gaming Service Workers – 31.3
Professions with lowest divorce rate:
*       Farmers – 7.63
*       Podiatrists – 6.81
*       Clergy – 5.61
*       Optomitrists – 4.01
*       Agricultural Engineers – 1.78


Among the population segments with the lowest likelihood of having been divorced subsequent to marriage are Catholics (28 percent), evangelicals (26 percent),
upscale adults (adults making more than $75000 annually) (22 percent), Asians (20 percent) and those who deem themselves to be conservative on social and
political matters (28%).

Just group a bunch of low risk factors together.
For the absolutely lowest risk marry a conservative religious Asian girl who is highly educated.

Risk then is probably less then 20%.

Yeah take your divorce statistics from lawyers.

Look it doesn't matter. Unicorns don't exist and you can't force yourself to believe in something you don't or change your race. You are defending something indefensible. It has to work for the majority, or the system is broken.

[CoinCube]

Let me just make something clear, for the record. I am not against marriage in principle. If we were still religious and it was a purely cultural function, it would be fine. It used to tie people together. But as it exists today it is a legal contract with the state, and it incentivizes women to divorce.

I am also not against family. Because I have one. It's a very necessary thing. But the laws in the west today, and the US especially, are such that it is a suicidally stupid thing to do.

I understand your position and agree that the risks are very real and the consequences extreme if one chooses poorly which a majority do.

I just disagree that the risks cannot be navigated if one is careful.

That said I married a highly educated Asian girl and we go to church together every week so I admit that my perspective may be a bit different then the average.