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[VB1001]

https://ocean.builders/april-15th-initial-seastead-offering/

Maybe you can have 2 or 3 seastead apart from the set of owners, just to rent.
On a platform like airbnb, it may be another form of profitable, probably always have reservations.

I just had a group come out here last week to visit the seastead. One of them wants to do exactly that.

He wants to set up a SeaBnB on a few of these and get about 10 people to go in on one to split the cost/profit. He's figuring a 65% occupancy rate over 3 years pays for itself.

The configuration would be just a bed and bathroom instead of the standard which comes with a kitchen.

We also have a big investor that wants to set up an underwater restaurant. People visiting the restaurant will want a place to stay the night. We're figuring a capacity of 40 high end customers.

Fantastic, it's a good start, I've visited your page and this rounder model is more pleasing to the eye, I hope it's very successful.

Do not forget to publish your news in all the social networks, people nowadays move through these channels and the information arrives very fast to them.

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[LFC_Bitcoin]

Posting women rock climbing in underwears is a thing now ? am so out of trend

Climbing walls G

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

Either, you are shit stirring me or you genuinely cannot see where the analogy leads you...

I leave you with this quote from Einstein,

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result"

(and yes, I know there is. no evidence that Einstein wrote or spoke the statement above)

The analogy doesn't make sense, regardless of how many times your insane mind chooses to repeat it. Data can be visualized with highways but it's by no means bound by the same rules as human traffic. If you fail to see this I can't help you.

I have zero faith in cryopreservation.

I have zero faith in "uploading consciousness".

So, if you upload your consciousness...  is it really 'you' at that point? Or is it just an exact copy of you, and you are actually dead ?   I've actually been pondering this recently, and I can't get past the continuity of consciousness during the upload process, to believe the end result would still be me.

Deep thoughts...

Go play SOMA (or watch a playthrough). Very interesting story which makes you feel this dilemma first hand.

I agree with you that without continuity it isn't you.

What about anesthesia?


Added SOMA to my bucket list.

Anesthesia is like sleep, I don't consider going to sleep the same as dying. What differs it mainly from a mind upload is that your brain processing is continuous and it's not possible for several "instances" of "you" to exist simultaneously and grow apart.

I mean if I copy your brain and place it in a new host body do you expect to wake up in the other body? What if the original body (with your original brain) is revived as well? You would be 2 separate individuals with no direct brain connection.

I think the only way to preserve continuity is through the "ship of theseus" (see: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus) by slowly swapping out parts. So I believe in rejuvenation and transhumanism.

Edit:
And really play or watch SOMA. It's awesome.

That's what you say, but how do you really know that the you that wakes up after being tranquilized is the same as the you that went to the doctor? I generally have a hard time finding a distinction between environment and body/mind. On a fundamental level they all seem the same.


For all practical intents and purposes however:

Slowly swapping out parts doesn't cut it for me, since I can't know if there isn't one "tiny spec of me" in the brain that once replaced kills me off without making any trace to external observers. The only way I'd be convinced would be if I could freely swap between digital and physical body, while also having the option to simultaneously perceive both.


What do you mean play or watch by the way? Is there a movie? Which would you recommend?

[wachtwoord]

Either, you are shit stirring me or you genuinely cannot see where the analogy leads you...

I leave you with this quote from Einstein,

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result"

(and yes, I know there is. no evidence that Einstein wrote or spoke the statement above)

The analogy doesn't make sense, regardless of how many times your insane mind chooses to repeat it. Data can be visualized with highways but it's by no means bound by the same rules as human traffic. If you fail to see this I can't help you.

I have zero faith in cryopreservation.

I have zero faith in "uploading consciousness".

So, if you upload your consciousness...  is it really 'you' at that point? Or is it just an exact copy of you, and you are actually dead ?   I've actually been pondering this recently, and I can't get past the continuity of consciousness during the upload process, to believe the end result would still be me.

Deep thoughts...

Go play SOMA (or watch a playthrough). Very interesting story which makes you feel this dilemma first hand.

I agree with you that without continuity it isn't you.

What about anesthesia?


Added SOMA to my bucket list.

Anesthesia is like sleep, I don't consider going to sleep the same as dying. What differs it mainly from a mind upload is that your brain processing is continuous and it's not possible for several "instances" of "you" to exist simultaneously and grow apart.

I mean if I copy your brain and place it in a new host body do you expect to wake up in the other body? What if the original body (with your original brain) is revived as well? You would be 2 separate individuals with no direct brain connection.

I think the only way to preserve continuity is through the "ship of theseus" (see: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus) by slowly swapping out parts. So I believe in rejuvenation and transhumanism.

Edit:
And really play or watch SOMA. It's awesome.

That's what you say, but how do you really know that the you that wakes up after being tranquilized is the same as the you that went to the doctor? I generally have a hard time finding a distinction between environment and body/mind. On a fundamental level they all seem the same.


For all practical intents and purposes however:

Slowly swapping out parts doesn't cut it for me, since I can't know if there isn't one "tiny spec of me" in the brain that once replaced kills me off without making any trace to external observers. The only way I'd be convinced would be if I could freely swap between digital and physical body, while also having the option to simultaneously perceive both.


What do you mean play or watch by the way? Is there a movie? Which would you recommend?

I don't know for sure whether it's the same me that wakes up as the one that went to sleep. I consider it so, as the mind is continuous (not the conscious mind) and there are no obvious paradoxes possible (such as two versions of me existing at the same time) but I cannot be sure. For practical reasons there is no alternative (not sleeping means death).

SOMA is a video game that you should play. However, if you have limited time or don't like playing you can watch a playthrough and still experience the awesome story and world.

[siggy_77]

So, if you upload your consciousness...  is it really 'you' at that point? Or is it just an exact copy of you, and you are actually dead ?   I've actually been pondering this recently, and I can't get past the continuity of consciousness during the upload process, to believe the end result would still be me.

Deep thoughts...

Go play SOMA (or watch a playthrough). Very interesting story which makes you feel this dilemma first hand.

I agree with you that without continuity it isn't you.

What about anesthesia?


Added SOMA to my bucket list.

Anesthesia is like sleep, I don't consider going to sleep the same as dying. What differs it mainly from a mind upload is that your brain processing is continuous and it's not possible for several "instances" of "you" to exist simultaneously and grow apart.

I mean if I copy your brain and place it in a new host body do you expect to wake up in the other body? What if the original body (with your original brain) is revived as well? You would be 2 separate individuals with no direct brain connection.

I think the only way to preserve continuity is through the "ship of theseus" (see: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus) by slowly swapping out parts. So I believe in rejuvenation and transhumanism.

Edit:
And really play or watch SOMA. It's awesome.

My thinking on this pretty much mirrors yours...  I'm all for transhumanism so long as I can get past the continuity thing.. and pretty much the only solution I can get behind is the gradual replacement route.  

More Deep Thoughts..  At what point are we at the transhuman stage?  A lot of us already have artificial parts.. from the simple filled cavity all the way up to artificial heart valves.. Heck it is now possible to live a mostly normal life for a short time with a fully artificial heart......

and SOMA is now on the to-do list  

[jojo69]

-I do cheer for you to be dry for over 2 weeks, though you should be able to manage the drinking to be occasionally, over dinner evenings or @a Bday etc just skip the 5,6,7 beers a early morning everyday and you should be fine. Just don't forget to give yourself something from day to day as a reward ( like sometimes a fine wine over dinner, or a glass of bubbles to celebrate some dildo's etc)

nah

stay on the narrow way, at least another 2 weeks

took me almost 6 weeks to really start feeling more energy

[Spaceman_Spiff_Original]

I have zero faith in cryopreservation.

I have zero faith in "uploading consciousness".

So, if you upload your consciousness...  is it really 'you' at that point? Or is it just an exact copy of you, and you are actually dead ?   I've actually been pondering this recently, and I can't get past the continuity of consciousness during the upload process, to believe the end result would still be me.

Yeah, that's one of the big questions right?  

I guess part of the problem is that we (or at least I) don't have a clear view of what makes up a person/individual.  I mean, we know about brains being made out of neurons, glial cells etc., but have much more issues seeing how that translates to more abstract higher-order concepts such as consciousness, character etc. .

Perhaps the idea of an individual as a fixed entity is nonsensical. The 'you' of today is not the same as the 'you' of yesterday or that of 2 minutes ago.  Phineas Gage before a rod through his skull was not the same person as Phineas Gage after the rod.

I still really don't get how go from a collaborating lump of cells to something like a consciousness, hope I will be able to grasp it one day.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I'm kinda expecting that big whale move to be a false flag and scare people to long. Making a bunch of shooters and they set long's and pump it.

I’ve never even bothered trying to find the ‘perfect’ time to buy. I’m not a trader, I’m a mere HODLER.
Buy & HODL, Buy & HODL. It’s worked well so far

Amateurs trying to day trade is a recipe for disaster. I don’t know why people bother. It’s clear that bitcoin is going to be worth a fuck load eventually. All that’s required is patience & then riches will show themselves

[Phil_S]

You can't copy the brain.

You can't "swap" real neurons to artificial ones.

Forget about the whole thing.

It's pseudoscience mumbo-jumbo.

[jojo69]

blocksize blablabla

HEY!

it is Wednesday jerkface

[Spaceman_Spiff_Original]

You can't copy the brain.

A brain is something made out of matter.  Are you saying it is theoretically impossible (nevermind for now how difficult it would be in practice) to create a duplicate of a piece of matter that consists of the same kind of atoms in the same state?

[LFC_Bitcoin]

You can't copy the brain.

A brain is something made out of matter.  Are you saying it is theoretically impossible (nevermind for now how difficult it would be in practice) to create a duplicate of a piece of matter that consists of the same kind of atoms in the same state?

FFS

This isn’t nerdtalk.org.

[Raja_MBZ]

You can't copy the brain.

A brain is something made out of matter.  Are you saying it is theoretically impossible (nevermind for now how difficult it would be in practice) to create a duplicate of a piece of matter that consists of the same kind of atoms in the same state?

I believe we're definitely goin' to see those artificially made-up brains in future:

Can We Copy the Brain?

https://towardsdatascience.com/can-we-copy-the-brain-9ddbff5e0dde

[JimboToronto]

Good AM Bitcoinland.

Still plowing along pretty much sideways but with a slight upward drift... currently $5266USD/$7020CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Go Bitcoin go. Let's see a new AYH (all year high).

[JSRAW]

You can't copy the brain.

A brain is something made out of matter.  Are you saying it is theoretically impossible (nevermind for now how difficult it would be in practice) to create a duplicate of a piece of matter that consists of the same kind of atoms in the same state?

I believe we're definitely goin' to see those artificially made-up brains in future:

Can We Copy the Brain?

https://towardsdatascience.com/can-we-copy-the-brain-9ddbff5e0dde

3d printing going to play a big role in this as well.

3d printed brain-tissue-cells then sub conscience transfer with the AI or whatever brainy guys call it.

Shit load amount of Rats going to die in this process.

https://www.3ders.org/articles/20190403-3d-printed-transparent-skull-lets-scientists-see-how-the-brain-works.html

[mindrust]

I am only 4.5BTC away from 10btc. It'll take a while if bitcoin keeps rising like this. 5 was my first target and I accomplished it a few weeks ago. 10 is next. 21 is after that. I'll probably cash out to lambo (by lambo i mean whatever i like) before I reach 21 but who knows.

Tone Vays says sub $3k, even sub 2k is still possible. I might get 4-5 coins instantly if that happens.

What's the deal with 21? Confirminati illumed?

Max supply for Bitcoin is 21 million.

If you own 21 coins, you'll be granted access to the 1 million club.

1 milion club has many benefits like free cigars and drinks, free access to reputable night clubs in major cities etc... I believe it is a bit too late to get the 1million club membership but I'll try anyway.

[Raja_MBZ]

I'm overall bearish on bitcoin until this trend breaks out:

You can't copy the brain.

A brain is something made out of matter.  Are you saying it is theoretically impossible (nevermind for now how difficult it would be in practice) to create a duplicate of a piece of matter that consists of the same kind of atoms in the same state?

I believe we're definitely goin' to see those artificially made-up brains in future:

Can We Copy the Brain?

https://towardsdatascience.com/can-we-copy-the-brain-9ddbff5e0dde

3d printing going to play a big role in this as well.

3d printed brain-tissue-cells then sub conscience transfer with the AI or whatever brainy guys call it.

Shit load amount of Rats going to die in this process.

https://www.3ders.org/articles/20190403-3d-printed-transparent-skull-lets-scientists-see-how-the-brain-works.html

Rats going to die? Will their circulation decrease? Should we sell bitcoin and starting hodling rats because they'll be rare in the future? Should we?!? Sir?

[JSRAW]

I am telling not crying lol

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Posting women rock climbing in underwears is a thing now ? am so out of trend

I can try to start this trend, if it's important to you.

FFS Bob

GTFO

[ivomm]

After years of playing Star Wars Commander on my phone, today I reached a remarkable medal count - 100K! I believe I will see Bitcoin parity and I demand it soon(ish)  ! Somehow, this game was the first brink of the logical chain, which allowed me to understand about Bitcoin, so for me it is a sign! (I went through the options to get free crystals in this game by installing apps, then PTC sites, and gradually I learned about mining and buying Bitcoins on exchanges.)