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[Ibian]

The intro to Idiocracy explains it all. Life is so easy that it's better from a reproductive perspective to be stupid than intelligent. That is literally the entire explanation for everything going wrong today.

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[Phil_S]

Biden's about only chance is to act as the "sane" guy. Trump has to look like a clown besides him. He tries so hard to look serious.

Who tries to look serious? Trump?

He's gone full Jerry Seinfeld, and seems to enjoy his new gig:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfl13QyQZKc

He will roast Biden to ashes.

[goldkingcoiner]

The intro to Idiocracy explains it all. Life is so easy that it's better from a reproductive perspective to be stupid than intelligent. That is literally the entire explanation for everything going wrong today.

The problem is that humanity is selflessness. Instead of kicking sick worker bees out of the hive, we do everything we can to treat them. We are going only as fast as our slowest member.

If we had a colder approach, I can't begin to imagine the kind of progress we would make.

But then again, if the goal is reached one way or another and the only difference is that kindness slows us down some, then thats fine with me.

[Ibian]

The intro to Idiocracy explains it all. Life is so easy that it's better from a reproductive perspective to be stupid than intelligent. That is literally the entire explanation for everything going wrong today.

The problem is that humanity is selflessness. Instead of kicking sick worker bees out of the hive, we do everything we can to treat them. We are going only as fast as our slowest member.

If we had a colder approach, I can't begin to imagine the kind of progress we would make.

But then again, if the goal is reached one way or another and the only difference is that kindness slows us down some, then thats fine with me.

We used to kill them. "Hunting accidents" in tribal times, sacrifices to the gods and burning people as witches as we got more advanced. We abandoned that for capitalism where the weak died on their own merits.

And it worked. We went from banging rocks together to form a sharper rock to everything we have now. Simple darwinism at work.

The problem is that they are the majority. It's the pareto principle, as the number of people increase the number of people with positive value increases linearly, and the number of people with negative value increases exponentially.

It's not simply a matter of things slowing down. They are actively trying to destroy their own culture, kill their own people. That's what metoo and deplatforming and all the other stuff is all about. They want to kill us, even if they risk becoming victims of their own creation.

The ultimate expression of this is communism. Just outright rounding people up and shooting them. And culture always moves to the left.

[Phil_S]

And what is that super-important goal?

I'd understand if we had to sacrifice our current comfort, because we're preparing for imminent alien invasion. Then we might need to go full Sparta.

Other than that...

[Ibian]

And what is that super-important goal?

I'd understand if we had to sacrifice our current comfort, because we're preparing for imminent alien invasion. Then we might need to go full Sparta.

Other than that...

Long term? Eventually the sun is going to die. Technology absolutely must progress far beyond where we are if we are going to survive long term.

In the short term, it would be nice if the west didn't turn into a bigger version of the soviet union. Just sayin.

[OutOfMemory]

Biden's about only chance is to act as the "sane" guy. Trump has to look like a clown besides him. He tries so hard to look serious.

Who tries to look serious? Trump?

He's gone full Jerry Seinfeld, and seems to enjoy his new gig:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfl13QyQZKc

He will roast Biden to ashes.

This video is actually a good example of what i was meaning.

The problem is that humanity is selflessness. Instead of kicking sick worker bees out of the hive, we do everything we can to treat them. We are going only as fast as our slowest member.

If we had a colder approach, I can't begin to imagine the kind of progress we would make.

But then again, if the goal is reached one way or another and the only difference is that kindness slows us down some, then thats fine with me.

We used to kill them. "Hunting accidents" in tribal times, sacrifices to the gods and burning people as witches as we got more advanced. We abandoned that for capitalism where the weak died on their own merits.

And it worked. We went from banging rocks together to form a sharper rock to everything we have now. Simple darwinism at work.

The problem is that they are the majority. It's the pareto principle, as the number of people increase the number of people with positive value increases linearly, and the number of people with negative value increases exponentially.

It's not simply a matter of things slowing down. They are actively trying to destroy their own culture, kill their own people. That's what metoo and deplatforming and all the other stuff is all about. They want to kill us, even if they risk becoming victims of their own creation.

The ultimate expression of this is communism. Just outright rounding people up and shooting them. And culture always moves to the left.

It worked in that society/state of evolution. But we're in a new age, an age where we are not forced to use our brains to survive and achieve "security", because we already have. But our brains go on, running wild, in any imaginable variant. A high developed brain in a world lacking of challenges creates challenges, and their carriers start to believe that their (current) personal life-challenge is real, so brainfuckery and reality gets mixed up.
We need to stop acting unconsciously and start to observe what our mind really does to us. This is the next step in evolution and it might take us thousands of years. In between we might get anywhere between the jetsons and the flintstones, possibly more than once.

And what is that super-important goal?

I'd understand if we had to sacrifice our current comfort, because we're preparing for imminent alien invasion. Then we might need to go full Sparta.

Other than that...

Long term? Eventually the sun is going to die. Technology absolutely must progress far beyond where we are if we are going to survive long term.

In the short term, it would be nice if the west didn't turn into a bigger version of the soviet union. Just sayin.

Don't worry. It's constantly swinging. We already had enough of that socialism, now we consider this as "normal", the pendulum starts to swing in the other direction again. History repeats itself. When the ww2 generation extincted, its grandchildren are ready to do it wrong all again.

EDIT:
There even isn't anything like "wrong" or "right", but just "results" of events.

[Ibian]

Biden's about only chance is to act as the "sane" guy. Trump has to look like a clown besides him. He tries so hard to look serious.

Who tries to look serious? Trump?

He's gone full Jerry Seinfeld, and seems to enjoy his new gig:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfl13QyQZKc

He will roast Biden to ashes.

This video is actually a good example of what i was meaning.

The problem is that humanity is selflessness. Instead of kicking sick worker bees out of the hive, we do everything we can to treat them. We are going only as fast as our slowest member.

If we had a colder approach, I can't begin to imagine the kind of progress we would make.

But then again, if the goal is reached one way or another and the only difference is that kindness slows us down some, then thats fine with me.

We used to kill them. "Hunting accidents" in tribal times, sacrifices to the gods and burning people as witches as we got more advanced. We abandoned that for capitalism where the weak died on their own merits.

And it worked. We went from banging rocks together to form a sharper rock to everything we have now. Simple darwinism at work.

The problem is that they are the majority. It's the pareto principle, as the number of people increase the number of people with positive value increases linearly, and the number of people with negative value increases exponentially.

It's not simply a matter of things slowing down. They are actively trying to destroy their own culture, kill their own people. That's what metoo and deplatforming and all the other stuff is all about. They want to kill us, even if they risk becoming victims of their own creation.

The ultimate expression of this is communism. Just outright rounding people up and shooting them. And culture always moves to the left.

It worked in that society/state of evolution. But we're in a new age, an age where we are not forced to use our brains to survive and achieve "security", because we already have. But our brains go on, running wild, in any imaginable variant. A high developed brain in a world lacking of challenges creates challenges, and their carriers start to believe that their (current) personal life-challenge is real, so brainfuckery and reality gets mixed up.
We need to stop acting unconsciously and start to observe what our mind really does to us. This is the next step in evolution and it might take us thousands of years. In between we might get anywhere between the jetsons and the flintstones, possibly more than once.

The current state is temporary. The ultimate driver behind any culture is the people who live in it. People today are objectively worse than in most of history. It's not just the boomers, we are all affected by whatever environment we happen to live in. Things are going to get worse as a result. How much worse, who knows, but worse.

And what is that super-important goal?

I'd understand if we had to sacrifice our current comfort, because we're preparing for imminent alien invasion. Then we might need to go full Sparta.

Other than that...

Long term? Eventually the sun is going to die. Technology absolutely must progress far beyond where we are if we are going to survive long term.

In the short term, it would be nice if the west didn't turn into a bigger version of the soviet union. Just sayin.

Don't worry. It's constantly swinging. We already had enough of that socialism, now we consider this as "normal", the pendulum starts to swing in the other direction again. History repeats itself. When the ww2 generation extincted, its grandchildren are ready to do it wrong all again.

EDIT:
There even isn't anything like "wrong" or "right", but just "results" of events.

It's not a pendulum, it's a cycle. It can't restart before it has either completed or a specific type of event happens that resets it. The "pendulum" does not simply stop at the halfway point and then go in the other direction.

[OutOfMemory]

Biden's about only chance is to act as the "sane" guy. Trump has to look like a clown besides him. He tries so hard to look serious.

Who tries to look serious? Trump?

He's gone full Jerry Seinfeld, and seems to enjoy his new gig:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfl13QyQZKc

He will roast Biden to ashes.

This video is actually a good example of what i was meaning.

The problem is that humanity is selflessness. Instead of kicking sick worker bees out of the hive, we do everything we can to treat them. We are going only as fast as our slowest member.

If we had a colder approach, I can't begin to imagine the kind of progress we would make.

But then again, if the goal is reached one way or another and the only difference is that kindness slows us down some, then thats fine with me.

We used to kill them. "Hunting accidents" in tribal times, sacrifices to the gods and burning people as witches as we got more advanced. We abandoned that for capitalism where the weak died on their own merits.

And it worked. We went from banging rocks together to form a sharper rock to everything we have now. Simple darwinism at work.

The problem is that they are the majority. It's the pareto principle, as the number of people increase the number of people with positive value increases linearly, and the number of people with negative value increases exponentially.

It's not simply a matter of things slowing down. They are actively trying to destroy their own culture, kill their own people. That's what metoo and deplatforming and all the other stuff is all about. They want to kill us, even if they risk becoming victims of their own creation.

The ultimate expression of this is communism. Just outright rounding people up and shooting them. And culture always moves to the left.

It worked in that society/state of evolution. But we're in a new age, an age where we are not forced to use our brains to survive and achieve "security", because we already have. But our brains go on, running wild, in any imaginable variant. A high developed brain in a world lacking of challenges creates challenges, and their carriers start to believe that their (current) personal life-challenge is real, so brainfuckery and reality gets mixed up.
We need to stop acting unconsciously and start to observe what our mind really does to us. This is the next step in evolution and it might take us thousands of years. In between we might get anywhere between the jetsons and the flintstones, possibly more than once.

The current state is temporary. The ultimate driver behind any culture is the people who live in it. People today are objectively worse than in most of history. It's not just the boomers, we are all affected by whatever environment we happen to live in. Things are going to get worse as a result. How much worse, who knows, but worse.

And what is that super-important goal?

I'd understand if we had to sacrifice our current comfort, because we're preparing for imminent alien invasion. Then we might need to go full Sparta.

Other than that...

Long term? Eventually the sun is going to die. Technology absolutely must progress far beyond where we are if we are going to survive long term.

In the short term, it would be nice if the west didn't turn into a bigger version of the soviet union. Just sayin.

Don't worry. It's constantly swinging. We already had enough of that socialism, now we consider this as "normal", the pendulum starts to swing in the other direction again. History repeats itself. When the ww2 generation extincted, its grandchildren are ready to do it wrong all again.

EDIT:
There even isn't anything like "wrong" or "right", but just "results" of events.

It's not a pendulum, it's a cycle. It can't restart before it has either completed or a specific type of event happens that resets it. The "pendulum" does not simply stop at the halfway point and then go in the other direction.

This is a point-of-view issue. If you look at a circle from the side, with a point moving with linear speed along the circle, it moves at the speed "pattern" of a pendulum. Don't know how to better describe this in english, but the essence is that we're trying to express the same thing(s), imo.

EDIT: Or a half circle, and the moving point moves from end to end.

And all things are temporary. Almost all. I totall agree with that.

[HairyMaclairy]

Word on the street is that the Japanese government is massively under-reporting cases in a last ditch attempt to save the Olympics. Their numbers are off by at least an order of magnitude.  

[OutOfMemory]

Word on the street is that the Japanese government is massively under-reporting cases in a last ditch attempt to save the Olympics. Their numbers are off by at least an order of magnitude.  

So it's: Sacrifice the weak and elderly, overload and ruin healthcare to save the olympics?
I thought Japanese were intelligent?

[Ibian]

Biden's about only chance is to act as the "sane" guy. Trump has to look like a clown besides him. He tries so hard to look serious.

Who tries to look serious? Trump?

He's gone full Jerry Seinfeld, and seems to enjoy his new gig:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfl13QyQZKc

He will roast Biden to ashes.

This video is actually a good example of what i was meaning.

The problem is that humanity is selflessness. Instead of kicking sick worker bees out of the hive, we do everything we can to treat them. We are going only as fast as our slowest member.

If we had a colder approach, I can't begin to imagine the kind of progress we would make.

But then again, if the goal is reached one way or another and the only difference is that kindness slows us down some, then thats fine with me.

We used to kill them. "Hunting accidents" in tribal times, sacrifices to the gods and burning people as witches as we got more advanced. We abandoned that for capitalism where the weak died on their own merits.

And it worked. We went from banging rocks together to form a sharper rock to everything we have now. Simple darwinism at work.

The problem is that they are the majority. It's the pareto principle, as the number of people increase the number of people with positive value increases linearly, and the number of people with negative value increases exponentially.

It's not simply a matter of things slowing down. They are actively trying to destroy their own culture, kill their own people. That's what metoo and deplatforming and all the other stuff is all about. They want to kill us, even if they risk becoming victims of their own creation.

The ultimate expression of this is communism. Just outright rounding people up and shooting them. And culture always moves to the left.

It worked in that society/state of evolution. But we're in a new age, an age where we are not forced to use our brains to survive and achieve "security", because we already have. But our brains go on, running wild, in any imaginable variant. A high developed brain in a world lacking of challenges creates challenges, and their carriers start to believe that their (current) personal life-challenge is real, so brainfuckery and reality gets mixed up.
We need to stop acting unconsciously and start to observe what our mind really does to us. This is the next step in evolution and it might take us thousands of years. In between we might get anywhere between the jetsons and the flintstones, possibly more than once.

The current state is temporary. The ultimate driver behind any culture is the people who live in it. People today are objectively worse than in most of history. It's not just the boomers, we are all affected by whatever environment we happen to live in. Things are going to get worse as a result. How much worse, who knows, but worse.

And what is that super-important goal?

I'd understand if we had to sacrifice our current comfort, because we're preparing for imminent alien invasion. Then we might need to go full Sparta.

Other than that...

Long term? Eventually the sun is going to die. Technology absolutely must progress far beyond where we are if we are going to survive long term.

In the short term, it would be nice if the west didn't turn into a bigger version of the soviet union. Just sayin.

Don't worry. It's constantly swinging. We already had enough of that socialism, now we consider this as "normal", the pendulum starts to swing in the other direction again. History repeats itself. When the ww2 generation extincted, its grandchildren are ready to do it wrong all again.

EDIT:
There even isn't anything like "wrong" or "right", but just "results" of events.

It's not a pendulum, it's a cycle. It can't restart before it has either completed or a specific type of event happens that resets it. The "pendulum" does not simply stop at the halfway point and then go in the other direction.

This is a point-of-view issue. If you look at a circle from the side, with a point moving with linear speed along the circle, it moves at the speed "pattern" of a pendulum. Don't know how to better describe this in english, but the essence is that we're trying to express the same thing(s), imo.

EDIT: Or a half circle, and the moving point moves from end to end.

And all things are temporary. Almost all. I totall agree with that.

It's a historical issue.

http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

We had pretty pictures of the cycle of empire recently, nobody argued against that. Why now?

[Phil_S]

Under-reporting cases in one thing, but I think the real issue is under-testing. Governments around the world simply don't have enough tests available.

Even on that cruise ship, with 3500 people on board, they barely tested them. Only people with fever got tests.

Others were simply walking all around the cruise ship, carrying coronavirus, completely undetected.

[OutOfMemory]

Biden's about only chance is to act as the "sane" guy. Trump has to look like a clown besides him. He tries so hard to look serious.

Who tries to look serious? Trump?

He's gone full Jerry Seinfeld, and seems to enjoy his new gig:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfl13QyQZKc

He will roast Biden to ashes.

This video is actually a good example of what i was meaning.

The problem is that humanity is selflessness. Instead of kicking sick worker bees out of the hive, we do everything we can to treat them. We are going only as fast as our slowest member.

If we had a colder approach, I can't begin to imagine the kind of progress we would make.

But then again, if the goal is reached one way or another and the only difference is that kindness slows us down some, then thats fine with me.

We used to kill them. "Hunting accidents" in tribal times, sacrifices to the gods and burning people as witches as we got more advanced. We abandoned that for capitalism where the weak died on their own merits.

And it worked. We went from banging rocks together to form a sharper rock to everything we have now. Simple darwinism at work.

The problem is that they are the majority. It's the pareto principle, as the number of people increase the number of people with positive value increases linearly, and the number of people with negative value increases exponentially.

It's not simply a matter of things slowing down. They are actively trying to destroy their own culture, kill their own people. That's what metoo and deplatforming and all the other stuff is all about. They want to kill us, even if they risk becoming victims of their own creation.

The ultimate expression of this is communism. Just outright rounding people up and shooting them. And culture always moves to the left.

It worked in that society/state of evolution. But we're in a new age, an age where we are not forced to use our brains to survive and achieve "security", because we already have. But our brains go on, running wild, in any imaginable variant. A high developed brain in a world lacking of challenges creates challenges, and their carriers start to believe that their (current) personal life-challenge is real, so brainfuckery and reality gets mixed up.
We need to stop acting unconsciously and start to observe what our mind really does to us. This is the next step in evolution and it might take us thousands of years. In between we might get anywhere between the jetsons and the flintstones, possibly more than once.

The current state is temporary. The ultimate driver behind any culture is the people who live in it. People today are objectively worse than in most of history. It's not just the boomers, we are all affected by whatever environment we happen to live in. Things are going to get worse as a result. How much worse, who knows, but worse.

And what is that super-important goal?

I'd understand if we had to sacrifice our current comfort, because we're preparing for imminent alien invasion. Then we might need to go full Sparta.

Other than that...

Long term? Eventually the sun is going to die. Technology absolutely must progress far beyond where we are if we are going to survive long term.

In the short term, it would be nice if the west didn't turn into a bigger version of the soviet union. Just sayin.

Don't worry. It's constantly swinging. We already had enough of that socialism, now we consider this as "normal", the pendulum starts to swing in the other direction again. History repeats itself. When the ww2 generation extincted, its grandchildren are ready to do it wrong all again.

EDIT:
There even isn't anything like "wrong" or "right", but just "results" of events.

It's not a pendulum, it's a cycle. It can't restart before it has either completed or a specific type of event happens that resets it. The "pendulum" does not simply stop at the halfway point and then go in the other direction.

This is a point-of-view issue. If you look at a circle from the side, with a point moving with linear speed along the circle, it moves at the speed "pattern" of a pendulum. Don't know how to better describe this in english, but the essence is that we're trying to express the same thing(s), imo.

EDIT: Or a half circle, and the moving point moves from end to end.

And all things are temporary. Almost all. I totall agree with that.

It's a historical issue.

http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

We had pretty pictures of the cycle of empire recently, nobody argued against that. Why now?

It's just my uhm... opinion, man 
Thanks for the link, looks good after flying briefly over it.

[El duderino_]

Word on the street is that the Japanese government is massively under-reporting cases in a last ditch attempt to save the Olympics. Their numbers are off by at least an order of magnitude.  

Could easily be...

[Totscha]

Under-reporting cases in one thing, but I think the real issue is under-testing. Governments around the world simply don't have enough tests available.

Even on that cruise ship, with 3500 people on board, they barely tested them. Only people with fever got tests.

Others were simply walking all around the cruise ship, carrying coronavirus, completely undetected.

That's what happens when sick people aren't really all that sick. People should really calm the fuck down.

2% mortality rate? Sure, out of the people who are sick enough to see the doctor. There's probably tens of millions of people infected with nothing more than a slightly runny nose who just think they have the common cold.

There's official underreporting and then there's just plain general unawareness.

[Ibian]

2% mortality rate?

Closer to 10%. This is one of the worse examples of misinformation, something really needs to be done about it.

[goldkingcoiner]

2% mortality rate?

Closer to 10%. This is one of the worse examples of misinformation, something really needs to be done about it.

Oh GAWD THATS ALMOST 50% rounded up roughly

[Last of the V8s]

2% mortality rate?

Closer to 10%. This is one of the worse examples of misinformation, something really needs to be done about it.

Oh GAWD THATS ALMOST 50% rounded up roughly

We're all going to die

[Cryptotourist]

2% mortality rate?

Closer to 10%. This is one of the worse examples of misinformation, something really needs to be done about it.

Oh GAWD THATS ALMOST 50% rounded up roughly

It's close to 96% for pickle-lovers.