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JUST IN - Grayscale and Bitwise are confident a spot Bitcoin ETF will be approved soon.


Source : https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1535348174168236032
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June 11, 2022, 11:42:02 AM

That really is a great summation of the situation.

It does remind of how just a week ago I was explaining it to an anti-bitcoiner, someone who didn't want to get, who was fighting me for some reason, as if I was the one that was causing them anguish for having created bitcoin (I don't know).  Anyways,  I put it to him this way: 

It's not like someone is going to come out next week with something better than the internet.  The internet was a massive achievement, but what would this new thing need to be for everyone to just drop the current internet and start using something else.

His response was:  ... what do you mean??  There has been newer and different internets.  "web 2.0".  Then he holds up his iphone and says look at this new internet on here!

At that point I gave up.
Hahahahhahahah it’s just embarrassing. But then again, the opportunity cost for choosing to not understand Bitcoin is getting higher every year, whoever wanna afford this luxury so be it. I gave up on convincing people.

A lot of people use technology but have no clue on how it works.
Just like people that can't even tell you where there country is on a globe.

It speaks volumes about the decline of basic education.
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June 11, 2022, 12:28:46 PM

I'm not surprised that the price is under 30K again. But I'm quite surprised it is nowhere near the last bottom 25K. Historically, almost every possible bottom of a big crash was being tested and retested in the following days and weeks. Even the two V-type crashes to 3.1K in 2018 and 3.8K in 2019 were followed by restests down to 10% from the bottom. So far we haven't seen a retest to 10% of the bottom, i.e. prices like 27.5K. This alone is a huge exception and it probably means that further lows won't happen in the next few months. But even if we see another retest of 25K, this will only confirm the bottom. May be another bottom around 20K will happen eventually at the end of the year, but not before the bulls are exhausted with some disbelief rally to 40K+.
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June 11, 2022, 01:09:58 PM

Meh… to much bullish news for BTC to go UP :-)

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June 11, 2022, 01:26:55 PM

Seems to me, what the markets need, is a mass liquidation event.........


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Shake out the chaff
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June 11, 2022, 01:46:42 PM

I'm not surprised that the price is under 30K again. But I'm quite surprised it is nowhere near the last bottom 25K. Historically, almost every possible bottom of a big crash was being tested and retested in the following days and weeks. Even the two V-type crashes to 3.1K in 2018 and 3.8K in 2019 were followed by restests down to 10% from the bottom. So far we haven't seen a retest to 10% of the bottom, i.e. prices like 27.5K. This alone is a huge exception and it probably means that further lows won't happen in the next few months. But even if we see another retest of 25K, this will only confirm the bottom. May be another bottom around 20K will happen eventually at the end of the year, but not before the bulls are exhausted with some disbelief rally to 40K+.

Fyi 10% (up) from the bottom of $25,338 is $27,871. Price has already re-tested $28K since then (2 weeks later). While I think a re-test around $27.5K looks pretty likely at this point, given recent price action on shorter-term time-frames, maybe the re-test that was only $129 short of 10% can be considered close enough (or front run even)?

There are still a lot of buy orders @ $28K. I'd expect less since this level has already been tested, so seems like buyers aren't concerned about paying $129 higher than the "usual" re-test of the lows, and are still factoring in that the $25K could well be the low before a considerable rise in price, even if not the absolute low for the year.
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June 11, 2022, 02:01:59 PM

And then we told them the inflation wouldn't be bad. Cheesy


https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1535331088154902529
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Seems to me, what the markets need, is a mass liquidation event.........



The market only always needs a mega pump....
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Meh… to much bullish news for BTC to go UP :-)



Yes, definitely there are too many signs that the bear market is at its end. There are only some hypothetical 'ifs' that could lead to prices around or below 25K again. It is hard to define a bear 4 year cycle since the cycle 2012-2016. We had a 1 year bear market in 2018, followed by a 6 month bull market, which in turn was followed by a 6 month sideways market. And then the covid temporarily crash. But even in that period is evident that the average price moved from 6K to 10K reflecting the increased adoption mixed with heavy manipulation around 10K.

So, I expect something like this: 30K-40K-50K movement of the average price before the next exponential bull run that would lead us to 150K+ in 2025. The blow-off top depends on news like ETF spot approval, or even bigger news like legal tender in USA one day. In that sense, it is much better for the ETF spot approval to be timed with the normal top of the cycle 200K. Then we will have a blow-off top to 400K+ in 2025. Just like we had it in 2017 with the news of CME and CBOE futures, which was a big news for the mass adoption of BTCitcoin. Without it, we would have a more normal top around 10K and the description of a bear cycle after that even more complicated.
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June 11, 2022, 02:18:44 PM

Seems to me, what the markets need, is a mass liquidation event.........



The market only always needs a mega pump....


Hmmmm, I dunno bro, I think to get the pump, we may need to crush a load of longs, then the market can go and crush the shorts.


BTC wise, looking at those longs on finex... they surely need culling at some point.


It is the sideeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeways I fear the most... that is the worst of the worst.
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June 11, 2022, 02:29:53 PM

Seems to me, what the markets need, is a mass liquidation event.........



The market only always needs a mega pump....


Hmmmm, I dunno bro, I think to get the pump, we may need to crush a load of longs, then the market can go and crush the shorts.


BTC wise, looking at those longs on finex... they surely need culling at some point.


It is the sideeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeways I fear the most... that is the worst of the worst.

+1 Sideways sucks the most
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June 11, 2022, 02:41:10 PM

Seems to me, what the markets need, is a mass liquidation event.........



The market only always needs a mega pump....


Hmmmm, I dunno bro, I think to get the pump, we may need to crush a load of longs, then the market can go and crush the shorts.


BTC wise, looking at those longs on finex... they surely need culling at some point.


It is the sideeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeways I fear the most... that is the worst of the worst.

+1 Sideways sucks the most

Dunno, for traders maybe yes. For hodlers, down is most painful...  Cool
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Seems to me, what the markets need, is a mass liquidation event.........



The market only always needs a mega pump....


Hmmmm, I dunno bro, I think to get the pump, we may need to crush a load of longs, then the market can go and crush the shorts.


BTC wise, looking at those longs on finex... they surely need culling at some point.


It is the sideeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeways I fear the most... that is the worst of the worst.

+1 Sideways sucks the most

Dunno, for traders maybe yes. For hodlers, down is most painful...  Cool

I'm a hodler since 2013 and am totally numb to downtrend  Cool
But this sideways sucks. Get this rollercoaster back in motion  Grin
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Seems to me, what the markets need, is a mass liquidation event.........



The market only always needs a mega pump....


Hmmmm, I dunno bro, I think to get the pump, we may need to crush a load of longs, then the market can go and crush the shorts.


BTC wise, looking at those longs on finex... they surely need culling at some point.


It is the sideeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeways I fear the most... that is the worst of the worst.

+1 Sideways sucks the most

Dunno, for traders maybe yes. For hodlers, down is most painful...  Cool


Sorta, but then if they are long term holders, then its just psychological, unless they need to sell of course.  I mean for a holder, down, could represent good time to accumulate and add to stack.  Up too quickly, is rarely good, unless its one of those moves whereby it raises the floor "permanently" , cut out a load of people who were on the sidelines or had previously been liquidated.

 Some sideways is alright, reaccumulation and some consolidation before next move etc , can always use options and collect premium
I guess.


But long sideways, like say a yearish give or take some months, is just depressing/boring.
  

I guess you could make the argument that sideways is a good time to accumulate if you think bottom is in..... but then you never know if it legs down after the sideways just to fuck as many people as possible..


I prefer violent moves, crush the longs then crush the shorts ..... v shaped bottoms etc.


Just get it over with , I dont wanna wait a year to bottom or wait  year after bottom for some action... it hurts.


Thats just me thou'

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June 11, 2022, 03:23:12 PM

And then we told them the inflation wouldn't be bad. Cheesy


https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1535331088154902529

They're laughing at us for sure

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1535407950575157250
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