Bitcoin Forum
April 25, 2024, 12:28:20 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Poll
Question: What happens first:
New ATH - 43 (69.4%)
<$60,000 - 19 (30.6%)
Total Voters: 62

Pages: « 1 ... 30690 30691 30692 30693 30694 30695 30696 30697 30698 30699 30700 30701 30702 30703 30704 30705 30706 30707 30708 30709 30710 30711 30712 30713 30714 30715 30716 30717 30718 30719 30720 30721 30722 30723 30724 30725 30726 30727 30728 30729 30730 30731 30732 30733 30734 30735 30736 30737 30738 30739 [30740] 30741 30742 30743 30744 30745 30746 30747 30748 30749 30750 30751 30752 30753 30754 30755 30756 30757 30758 30759 30760 30761 30762 30763 30764 30765 30766 30767 30768 30769 30770 30771 30772 30773 30774 30775 30776 30777 30778 30779 30780 30781 30782 30783 30784 30785 30786 30787 30788 30789 30790 ... 33299 »
  Print  
Author Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion  (Read 26367468 times)
This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (174 posts by 3 users with 9 merit deleted.)
Gachapin
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 896
Merit: 1836


bitcoin retard


View Profile
June 12, 2022, 01:36:21 PM



"The Bitfinex Saudis have been adding to their longs and have informed me they are now targeting 420k."

image loading...

https://twitter.com/JohalMiles/status/1535720048265945089


lol.


I gotta say..... I am looking forward to a large swath of those longs to get liquidated.  It will be a good thing IMO.

I have the feeling most of them won't get liquidated...   
1714004900
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714004900

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714004900
Reply with quote  #2

1714004900
Report to moderator
"With e-currency based on cryptographic proof, without the need to trust a third party middleman, money can be secure and transactions effortless." -- Satoshi
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
1714004900
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1714004900

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1714004900
Reply with quote  #2

1714004900
Report to moderator
empowering
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1078
Merit: 1441



View Profile
June 12, 2022, 01:44:34 PM



"The Bitfinex Saudis have been adding to their longs and have informed me they are now targeting 420k."

image loading...

https://twitter.com/JohalMiles/status/1535720048265945089


lol.


I gotta say..... I am looking forward to a large swath of those longs to get liquidated.  It will be a good thing IMO.

I have the feeling most of them won't get liquidated...  

what makes you think that ? (out of interest)

Perhaps, we shall have to see, guess it depends on their leverage levels and collateral levels, and their entry points. We shall see. I am thinking that the longs will increase more.... and eventually a culling is inevitable, and healthy.


These things usually have a tipping point, followed by cascading liquidations.

dragonvslinux
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1666
Merit: 2204


Crypto Swap Exchange


View Profile
June 12, 2022, 01:48:49 PM
Merited by JayJuanGee (1)


Wouldn't expect anything less right now. Bitfinex longs (yellow line) are inversely correlated to the overall leverage market. While the market is short, Bitfinex is long.



Traders on that platform take profits when price is rising, and otherwise accumulate when price is dropping (or sideways). Using very low leverage to avoid liquidation I imagine.

They will start taking profits when price is rising, as long as they can avoid a covid-like capitulation crash.

empowering
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1078
Merit: 1441



View Profile
June 12, 2022, 02:00:44 PM


Wouldn't expect anything less right now. Bitfinex longs (yellow line) are inversely correlated to the overall leverage market. While the market is short, Bitfinex is long.



Traders on that platform take profits when price is rising, and otherwise accumulate when price is dropping (or sideways). Using very low leverage to avoid liquidation I imagine.

They will start taking profits when price is rising, as long as they can avoid a covid-like capitulation crash.




Of course, I hear you... however, I just feel like the fact that the BTC longs, on finex, are so far above ATH , at these price levels, to be too far out of kilter, and many of them are long, as seen on spikes on chart from 42K...... risky biscuits.  If we would have seen the massive spikes in LONGS from the past week or two, I would assume they were in better shape.

Never know, could all be fine... I just always expect the market to go for max pain...... and for some market participants, to want to impose max pain.



 

ChartBuddy
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2156
Merit: 1745


1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ


View Profile
June 12, 2022, 02:01:21 PM


Explanation
bitebits
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2211
Merit: 3178


Flippin' burgers since 1163.


View Profile
June 12, 2022, 02:07:03 PM
Merited by fillippone (3), LFC_Bitcoin (2), somac. (1)

Less than 100k blocks left to the next halving and -60% from the ATH. This is the time to add to the stash again.
dragonvslinux
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1666
Merit: 2204


Crypto Swap Exchange


View Profile
June 12, 2022, 02:10:15 PM


Wouldn't expect anything less right now. Bitfinex longs (yellow line) are inversely correlated to the overall leverage market. While the market is short, Bitfinex is long.



Traders on that platform take profits when price is rising, and otherwise accumulate when price is dropping (or sideways). Using very low leverage to avoid liquidation I imagine.

They will start taking profits when price is rising, as long as they can avoid a covid-like capitulation crash.
Of course, I hear you... however, I just feel like the fact that the BTC longs, on finex, are so far above ATH , at these price levels, to be too far out of kilter, and many of them are long, as seen on spikes on chart from 42K...... risky biscuits.  If we would have seen the massive spikes in LONGS from the past week or two, I would assume they were in better shape.

To put it simply, I don't trust the Bitfinex bull whales as there are many OGs with too many Bitcoins. While they are stacking up longs on Bitfinex, they have the ability to head to Binance and FTX in order to liquidate the shorts. As to me it seems very suspicious how they've been consistently making profit in the past year or so, without a considerable dose of market manipulation if I had to guess (both long and short).

Never know, could all be fine... I just always expect the market to go for max pain...... and for some market participants, to want to impose max pain.

For sure, I agree with the max pain theory, but currently max pain would be a short squeeze as the market is predominantly short. Not a long squeeze of Bitfinex that's only ranked no.7 based on leverage volume (becoming irrelevant). Max pain would also be trapping many sellers below $30K, that could end up being very painful for many in the long-term, similar to trapping many buyers above $60K.

To me it also seems clear that the Bifinex whales intend to stack longs all the way down from $40K to $20K. For all we know it could be with 0 leverage that is then applied later (if this is possible)...
somac.
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2047
Merit: 1182

Never selling


View Profile
June 12, 2022, 02:10:23 PM



Of course, I hear you... however, I just feel like the fact that the BTC longs, on finex, are so far above ATH , at these price levels, to be too far out of kilter, and many of them are long, as seen on spikes on chart from 42K...... risky biscuits.  If we would have seen the massive spikes in LONGS from the past week or two, I would assume they were in better shape.

Never know, could all be fine... I just always expect the market to go for max pain...... and for some market participants, to want to impose max pain.



Well, things do have that downity look at the moment. Which means more stacking.
empowering
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1078
Merit: 1441



View Profile
June 12, 2022, 02:27:10 PM



For sure, I agree with the max pain theory, but currently max pain would be a short squeeze as the market is predominantly short. Not a long squeeze of Bitfinex that's only ranked no.7 based on leverage volume (becoming irrelevant). Max pain would also be trapping many sellers below $30K, that could end up being very painful for many in the long-term, similar to trapping many buyers above $60K.

To me it also seems clear that the Bifinex whales intend to stack longs all the way down from $40K to $20K. For all we know it could be with 0 leverage that is then applied later (if this is possible)...


Yeah for sure fair enough point...  I expect max pain to be inflicted on both.... guess we will see in which order.  Feel like we have another leg down and then things start to get interesting ... but we shall see.

 




 
dragonvslinux
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1666
Merit: 2204


Crypto Swap Exchange


View Profile
June 12, 2022, 02:42:58 PM
Merited by LFC_Bitcoin (5)

For sure, I agree with the max pain theory, but currently max pain would be a short squeeze as the market is predominantly short. Not a long squeeze of Bitfinex that's only ranked no.7 based on leverage volume (becoming irrelevant). Max pain would also be trapping many sellers below $30K, that could end up being very painful for many in the long-term, similar to trapping many buyers above $60K.

To me it also seems clear that the Bifinex whales intend to stack longs all the way down from $40K to $20K. For all we know it could be with 0 leverage that is then applied later (if this is possible)...

Yeah for sure fair enough point...  I expect max pain to be inflicted on both.... guess we will see in which order.  Feel like we have another leg down and then things start to get interesting ... but we shall see.

Agree with you here as still not doubting another leg down, re-testing $25K level, even the 200 Week MA. This would line up nicely with Weekly RSI @ 30 for a solid bounce.

I just doubt a move to $25K, even $20K, would have much effect on the Bitfinex longs right now. Probably they will just keep rising until price rebounds.



I'd prefer price to test the $20K-$25K asap, and get to critical oversold levels, rather than re-testing after a dead cat bounce. That would open the door for further downside if the RSI recovers.
becoin
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3431
Merit: 1233



View Profile
June 12, 2022, 02:56:20 PM

Who sold at the bottom?
empowering
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1078
Merit: 1441



View Profile
June 12, 2022, 02:59:11 PM

Who sold at the bottom?



Lets see, I am not so sure sure it is there yet.....

Would be cool if it is... lets see if it confirms as a bottom.
Gachapin
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 896
Merit: 1836


bitcoin retard


View Profile
June 12, 2022, 03:04:31 PM
Last edit: June 12, 2022, 03:29:22 PM by Gachapin



"The Bitfinex Saudis have been adding to their longs and have informed me they are now targeting 420k."

image loading...

https://twitter.com/JohalMiles/status/1535720048265945089


lol.


I gotta say..... I am looking forward to a large swath of those longs to get liquidated.  It will be a good thing IMO.

I have the feeling most of them won't get liquidated...  

what makes you think that ? (out of interest)

Perhaps, we shall have to see, guess it depends on their leverage levels and collateral levels, and their entry points. We shall see. I am thinking that the longs will increase more.... and eventually a culling is inevitable, and healthy.


These things usually have a tipping point, followed by cascading liquidations.



Just a feeling..  Finex is the (long) exception while the majority is short. ...And also the positive track record
(dragonvslinux described it very eloquently)
ChartBuddy
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2156
Merit: 1745


1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ


View Profile
June 12, 2022, 03:05:00 PM


Explanation
Copetech
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 370
Merit: 451


View Profile
June 12, 2022, 03:13:59 PM

Who sold at the bottom?


My buy order triggered at $26.9 does that count? I'm not sure I understand this word you use... sold??? Wassat?
With my orders triggering at $27.9 and $26.9 I have now brought my cost average down to $30.5 so I just keep telling myself to be happy about down. Very odd kind of "happy" it is...
BIT-MASTER
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 168
Merit: 1


View Profile
June 12, 2022, 03:50:15 PM

Hold Btc tightly, otherwise we will be in such a situation
image
ChartBuddy
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2156
Merit: 1745


1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ


View Profile
June 12, 2022, 04:03:28 PM


Explanation
Raja_MBZ
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1862
Merit: 1505



View Profile
June 12, 2022, 04:19:19 PM

Made my first BTC purchase after a big while. My ~20% portfolio = BTC. And this ain't a trade or something, it's the long-term hodl.

For the remaining 80%, I'm gonna wait & be extra cautious throughout the year. Going to keep watching Fed's actions & speeches closely. I won't mind getting more BTC exposure at a bit higher price in case I miss the bottom, but I really wanna see Fed's behavior getting a bit softer than right now for further BTC exposure. As of now, dollar is just too strong to ignore.
Wilhelm
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1652
Merit: 1265



View Profile
June 12, 2022, 04:53:51 PM
Merited by philipma1957 (1)

Made my first BTC purchase after a big while. My ~20% portfolio = BTC. And this ain't a trade or something, it's the long-term hodl.

For the remaining 80%, I'm gonna wait & be extra cautious throughout the year. Going to keep watching Fed's actions & speeches closely. I won't mind getting more BTC exposure at a bit higher price in case I miss the bottom, but I really wanna see Fed's behavior getting a bit softer than right now for further BTC exposure. As of now, dollar is just too strong to ignore.

Don't wait too long we are very close to the bottom and when it goes up it be it will be explosive.
ChartBuddy
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2156
Merit: 1745


1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ


View Profile
June 12, 2022, 05:01:20 PM


Explanation
Pages: « 1 ... 30690 30691 30692 30693 30694 30695 30696 30697 30698 30699 30700 30701 30702 30703 30704 30705 30706 30707 30708 30709 30710 30711 30712 30713 30714 30715 30716 30717 30718 30719 30720 30721 30722 30723 30724 30725 30726 30727 30728 30729 30730 30731 30732 30733 30734 30735 30736 30737 30738 30739 [30740] 30741 30742 30743 30744 30745 30746 30747 30748 30749 30750 30751 30752 30753 30754 30755 30756 30757 30758 30759 30760 30761 30762 30763 30764 30765 30766 30767 30768 30769 30770 30771 30772 30773 30774 30775 30776 30777 30778 30779 30780 30781 30782 30783 30784 30785 30786 30787 30788 30789 30790 ... 33299 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!