AMD Rebrand - RX570 / RX580 - Official Thread

[Pennywis3]

Should be able to down clock/volt to 480 levels and get lower power consumption and the same hashrate + less noise then?

Or is my logic flawed?

I hope this is the case.
And stock, its not using 33% more power in anyway.

[Krennian]

Just bought Aorus RX 580 8GB from newegg, i already have a rig working with a single RX 480 8GB, do you guys know if those are crossfire compatible?? so i can test both RX 480 and RX 580 on a single rig..

[Pennywis3]

It was noted on reviews about how big the heatsinks are on 5xx series, so in simple terms, 5xx series uses 33% more power and is also 33% bigger to contain that heat. The performance is as much as 6% more, so basically you are wasting around 25% more power for the same performance with the 5xx series.

Any proof of using 33% more power?

Because judging by the review its more like 10-30w, which is normal because it has a higher clock.

[64dimensions]

I hope the old series go cheaper, as the new ones are expensive...

Anyone know which Sapphire Series has dual bios?
Are Pulse series an option?

EDIT: Damn, the RX 570 Pulse series are only 4GB

I guess the Nitro+ RX 570 8GB will be the one to buy for faster roi, it requires only one 8 pin supply.

Here is Cryptomined unboxing sapphire 5XX Chinese versions. Only the 580 card has a dual bios switch. The Sapphire 570 appears to have a cheaper build quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-xnKRwzr2Q

[sp_]

Any proof of using 33% more power?

8 pin power adapter instead of the 6 pin. Doesn't need powered risers, and you can overvolt and overclock

[Metroid]

It was noted on reviews about how big the heatsinks are on 5xx series, so in simple terms, 5xx series uses 33% more power and is also 33% bigger to contain that heat. The performance is as much as 6% more, so basically you are wasting around 25% more power for the same performance with the 5xx series.

Any proof of using 33% more power?

Because judging by the review its more like 10-30w, which is normal because it has a higher clock.

techpowerup has a great review about it, it seems the rx 580 uses as per the review 67 more watts than rx 480 at maximum peak.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_580_Nitro_Plus/28.html

rx 580 = 250 watts, rx 480 = 166 watts. ON maximum performance rx 580 uses 84 more watts.




I just saw the sapphire rx 570 pulse 4gb review, and looks like even the 570 is bad. That is 62 more watts, what the hell is that.



This concludes of what could be the worse refresh of all time done by AMD.

[kemo6600]

rx 580 = 250 watts, rx 480 = 166 watts. ON maximum performance rx 580 uses 84 more watts.



I just saw the sapphire rx 570 pulse 4gb review, and looks like even the 570 is bad. That is 62 more watts, what the hell is that.


This concludes of what could be the worse refresh of all time done by AMD.

TPU is misleading as always , they are comparing Nitro 580 to Reference 480 .
IF you checked  the MSI gaming X 480 review you will find that it is consuming at least 40W more than 480 reference , most of the non reference design consuming 40-60 more watts than reference due to higher Vcore and core clock and less efficient mosfet design  .

[zer0k]

It's better if we can find reviews that compare the same brand/type of cards, and not aftermarket to reference designs
Toms hardware has some interesting reviews where they analyze power usage in detail. They are showing a 13-50W different between XFX RX470/570 versions.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-570-4gb,5028-15.html



Then their RX580 review shows much closer power draws between the RX580/480 versions.
It's the first review I've seen with power consumption this close. Most of them are finding bigger differences.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-580-review,5020-6.html



I can't wait for some miners to get their hands on them and do some more power analysis

[coin-chan]

When the cavalry comes to defend AMD even at the miners forum 

[cryptotore]

I get my MSI RX 580 cards tomorrow, will post stock power consumption! Hopefully someone smarter than me can figure out a modded bios I can use!

[Biodom]

I get my MSI RX 580 cards tomorrow, will post stock power consumption! Hopefully someone smarter than me can figure out a modded bios I can use!

apparently, mods are the same- 1500 timings for 570 and 1750 timings for 580.
I am getting MSI 570, not sure when they will arrive, though.

I hate modding bios looks like I'll just stick to used 470s.

me too (re hating modding bios) 
hit or miss, basically
sometimes you can get modded 470s, though (used)

[niksdt101]

got myself a couple more rx 480's with rebate.waiting for some one to actually figure out the optimal config for the 580's

[Megaquake]

AMD RX 480 successfully flashed to RX 580

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/43426-amd-rx-480-successfully-flashed-to-rx-580

[fr4nkthetank]

My 580 uses roughly 5W less power at the same settings than my XFX 480.

makes sense, thanks for reporting !

[Elder III]

Rx 470 flashed to RX 570 on Guru3D forums.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/wanna-flash-your-rx-470-towards-a-570-it%E2%80%99s-possible.html

I'm itching to build another rig just so I have an excuse to buy a couple 500 series to test. Too bad I'm running out of corners in the house to put more rigs. :/

[Tmdz]

AMD RX 480 successfully flashed to RX 580

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/43426-amd-rx-480-successfully-flashed-to-rx-580

So can they be flashed the opposite way?

That IS the million dollar question.

[yslyung]

yes i did it already vice versa but not the whole rom, just used timings for each other.\ BUT of course it has to be the same type of memory

[Eyedol-X]

AMD RX 480 successfully flashed to RX 580

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/43426-amd-rx-480-successfully-flashed-to-rx-580

So can they be flashed the opposite way?

That IS the million dollar question.

I don't see a point of flashing it the other way since you can just mod the bios to underclock the 580 if you want to save power.

For gaming though, I see the potential benefit of flashing your 480 with a 580 bios.

[Raja_MBZ]

AMD RX 480 successfully flashed to RX 580

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/43426-amd-rx-480-successfully-flashed-to-rx-580

So can they be flashed the opposite way?

That IS the million dollar question.

Well I've exactly those XFX RX 480 8 GB graphics cards. I wonder if I should try it out?

Seems pretty interesting though!

[Spill]

I ordered an xfx 580 black edition,   Just wondering if the 16.9.2 drivers will work with
the new cards, and if not what version driver comes with the card?