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[Biomech]

Our play continues...

ACT I

In which the people are filled with mirth, anticipating much ROI and RESALE VALUE

ACT II

In which the people wait

ACT III

In which the Evil Yifu destroys the people's hopes and dreams!

Act IV

In which Terrahash absconds, and the people turn on one another

Act V

? ? ?

Act V
massive suicide?  ahahahahhaha

232 pages ....
And probably 20 in total with useful info
It will be nice if some of participants of this thread will make less posts about nothing.

If that happened this thread would be dead.

Probably, but it´s tiring all over again for 100 pages same things.
Maybe we just need to talk about something else,
it´s clear that TH screwed all buyers by now.

ok, you pick the subject!

@btceic  really not without help of master Yifu, but this another story.
Actually only Bitfury and Avalon working ASICS by now, or i missed someone?

Don't think so, but KnC's chips are out of fab and in packaging as we type.

EDIT: Asicminer. We both forgot Asicminer

[syncer]

Don't think so, but KnC's chips are out of fab and in packaging as we type.

EDIT: Asicminer. We both forgot Asicminer

Yes, Asicminer, of course!
So from upcoming more or less real offers whom you seen as reliable source?
KnC is for me something more or less real, but never know.

[Biomech]

Don't think so, but KnC's chips are out of fab and in packaging as we type.

EDIT: Asicminer. We both forgot Asicminer

Yes, Asicminer, of course!
So from upcoming more or less real offers whom you seen as reliable source?
KnC is for me something more or less real, but never know.

I think KnC is legit, I'm iffy but leaning towards positive on Cointerra and to a lesser degree, HashFast. Don't know enough about Alydian yet to form an opinion. I think BFL will deliver the Monarch on about the same schedule as they delivered their other shit... far beyond use. I haven't investigated the others sufficiently.

[notlist3d]

PS: Please leave Knightlife out of this. He only knows what he saw at TH. He has tried to be helpfull and share what he could in many ways to help all of us,,,even posting an equipment list of what we would need to set up the klondikes with... he didnt have to do that. Yes he has tried to remain positive and hopefull like many, the reality is, he may stand to loose a lot more than most here. And as far as his ebay hosting operations, thats his business! ok

Minerman i have respect for you.  But it is hard to leave him out being the messanger/vouching for chips, and seeing office.  Here are some examples of things that make me think he should tied in with this both are direct quotes, and are things other then just vouching..  These are 2 of many

1)Everyone that is on the fence about this: don't listen to these guys who say that we should all get refunds immediately. Not only would it cause great problems for TH, more importantly, it will harm everyone else who is waiting patiently for their boards.

2)I'll be picking up my boards in person at TH when they are ready. I can take some extra pics when I'm there.  

Number 2 picking up in person..... is a pretty big thing.  He is going to pick up (assuming they make them) but he cant go there now and say hey whats up?  What are you guys working on?

The fact he has not went back to try to talk to them speaks volumes, after all his pro TH items.

Just tossing this out there.

Knightlife previous said the following:

Thanks so much Wally! Very much appreciated. I sat in traffic for 3 hours yesterday.

Do you really think he wants to travel 3 Hours there to risk them not being there since they don't answer their phone/email and then 3 hours back?

It's one thing if there was a Meeting setup to travel that distance but if he did it now the risk is very high that they won't be there.

Either way I was pointing out he had set up local pickup, and also told people to not get refunds flat out.  On refunds it now as always read make up your own mind. If someone wants to keep their order or even order their hosting once its up more power to them(assuming it actually happens).

I am more worried for us miners then TH.  I am not worried for TH, they had full control of actions and lack of many things went down a path.  Knight made it clear in 1 he was more worried for TH then miners.  And again these are 2 quotes of many.  I just picked out a few.

With them getting in bad with BBB, PayPal, Credit Cards, even some banks i would guess that's a challenge to come past unless they just go to BTC orders on hosting assuming they do it.

[kendog77]

I think Terrahash is done.

I highly doubt they will be able to raise any money for future projects, and their name is now severely tarnished.

Unless they make a herculean effort to appease current customers, folks would have to be crazy to give them any more money.

Sadly, it looks like Amir has given up.

[legkodymov]

I made order at TerraHash, but likely lost all money (about 100 coins).

Luckily I was the developer of Metabank's devices, and we already shipped 60% of devices (expect to ship rest in 3-5 days). I know economics of mining devices.

I expect that even if Avalon wouldn't make refund, in that case Terrahash can refund about 10-20% to people. If Avalon would make refund, terrahash could refund 80-95% of money.

What I see is that TerraHash is not going to make any refunds. I consider is just regular scam. Their next project is scam too.

Too bad for Silicon Valley company.

I didn't read whole thread, so maybe I think with mistake.

legkodymov.

[kendog77]

I agree that all the silence from Terrahash makes it look like a complete scam now.

Avalon screwed over Terrahash, and now it looks like Terrahash is trying to pay it forward by screwing over their customers.

Back in June, Terrahash looked like a very good bet, but things change quickly in the Bitcoin mining world.

[syncer]

I agree that all the silence from Terrahash makes it look like a complete scam now.

Avalon screwed over Terrahash, and now it looks like Terrahash is trying to pay it forward by screwing over their customers.

Back in June, Terrahash looked like a very good bet, but things change quickly in the Bitcoin mining world.

Sad but true.

[MinermanNC]

All over but the crying" lol

[syncer]

O tempora, o mores!
 

[southerngentuk]

Avalon are shipping chips, refunding chips.

If terahash asked for a refund, you should all recieve refunds 100%
If he did not cancel there is no excuse for you guys not receiving your miners.

This is not a group buy. None of you should eat his loses.
If you do, I hope each and everyone of you report this to the local fraud department with a link to this thread.

Am sure he is lurking here with a different login. Perhaps you guys should set him a time limit to respond..

P.S. The K16 is not the only board for these chips, there is no excuse there. Ok it might not fit in the shiny boxes TH may have brought but who cares.

[kkooks]

Avalon are shipping chips, refunding chips.

If terahash asked for a refund, you should all recieve refunds 100%
If he did not cancel there is no excuse for you guys not receiving your miners.

This is not a group buy. None of you should eat his loses.
If you do, I hope each and everyone of you report this to the local fraud department with a link to this thread.

Am sure he is lurking here with a different login. Perhaps you guys should set him a time limit to respond..

P.S. The K16 is not the only board for these chips, there is no excuse there. Ok it might not fit in the shiny boxes TH may have brought but who cares.

cases were never purchased.

[Shimple]

Sigh. I guess we all got scammed. I doubt we will hear from TH again. Little shit. I can't believe what people in this world can get away with. What a joke. Does he not feel bad for fu*king over hundreds of customers? He's so unprofessional about it too.

It hurts me to know that he is getting away with such a crime!

[hchc]

Sigh. I guess we all got scammed. I doubt we will hear from TH again. Little shit. I can't believe what people in this world can get away with. What a joke. Does he not feel bad for fu*king over hundreds of customers? He's so unprofessional about it too.

It hurts me to know that he is getting away with such a crime!

Guys, lets doing something collectively instead on sitting on our ass.

Here is the relevant hits on "Justin Reynolds"
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=3646811&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=G3EN&locale=en_US&srchid=2350547911379648964238&srchindex=1&srchtotal=7&trk=vsrp_people_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A2350547911379648964238%2CVSRPtargetId%3A3646811%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary

http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=252186120&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=-ZY_&locale=en_US&srchid=2350547911379648964238&srchindex=6&srchtotal=7&trk=vsrp_people_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A2350547911379648964238%2CVSRPtargetId%3A252186120%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary


"Amir Khan" has too many hits so probably not a good route.
http://www.linkedin.com/vsearch/p?firstName=Amir&lastName=Khan&postalCode=95050&openAdvancedForm=true&locationType=I&countryCode=us&distance=100&rsid=2350547911379649427932&orig=MDYS&page_num=1&pt=people

Knight does any of these looks familiar?

The mod should also have the ip login history of terrahash account that could be traced back to a location hopefully his home. I will ask the mod about this.

Let's start filing fraud complaint. The more ppl the better:
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/Information#&panel1-6
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

Lets think about any other ways guys.

[Shimple]

Sigh. I guess we all got scammed. I doubt we will hear from TH again. Little shit. I can't believe what people in this world can get away with. What a joke. Does he not feel bad for fu*king over hundreds of customers? He's so unprofessional about it too.

It hurts me to know that he is getting away with such a crime!

Guys, lets doing something collectively instead on sitting on our ass.

Here is the relevant hits on "Justin Reynolds"
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=3646811&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=G3EN&locale=en_US&srchid=2350547911379648964238&srchindex=1&srchtotal=7&trk=vsrp_people_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A2350547911379648964238%2CVSRPtargetId%3A3646811%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary

http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=252186120&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=-ZY_&locale=en_US&srchid=2350547911379648964238&srchindex=6&srchtotal=7&trk=vsrp_people_res_name&trkInfo=VSRPsearchId%3A2350547911379648964238%2CVSRPtargetId%3A252186120%2CVSRPcmpt%3Aprimary


"Amir Khan" has too many hits so probably not a good route.
http://www.linkedin.com/vsearch/p?firstName=Amir&lastName=Khan&postalCode=95050&openAdvancedForm=true&locationType=I&countryCode=us&distance=100&rsid=2350547911379649427932&orig=MDYS&page_num=1&pt=people

Knight does any of these looks familiar?

The mod should also have the ip login history of terrahash account that could be traced back to a location hopefully his home. I will ask the mod about this.

Let's start filing fraud complaint. The more ppl the better:
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/Information#&panel1-6
http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

Lets think about any other ways guys.

I was thinking going the law rode? But I believe someone suggested it would be too hard to do? No? If we could all pitch in a little bit maybe we can organize a lawyer to represent everyone? If we can find where he lives that's even better, then for sure he will shit his pants and maybe offer people refunds? Don't want angry people knocking on your door with wepons... Lol

EDIT: Filed complaint on both of the websites you posted hchc. Thanks.

[klee]

I am from Europe and I paid in Bitcoin - I am willing to contribute to the lawyer's payment, provided he can do something for me too and that he accepts as a payment a percentage of my paid capital to TH (10% of 3000$), in case he successfully claims it from them.

[Humax]

I am from Europe and I paid in Bitcoin - I am willing to contribute to the lawyer's payment, provided he can do something for me too and that he accepts as a payment a percentage of my paid capital to TH (10% of 3000$), in case he successfully claims it from them.

I'd like to join. Count me in!

[klee]

I am from Europe and I paid in Bitcoin - I am willing to contribute to the lawyer's payment, provided he can do something for me too and that he accepts as a payment a percentage of my paid capital to TH (10% of 3000$), in case he successfully claims it from them.

I'd like to join. Count me in!

Enough of this shit

[notlist3d]

Maybe finally officially mark TH as scam?  Lock thread.

[btceic]

Maybe finally officially mark TH as scam?  Lock thread.

ooooh, do I get a badge now!