|
Ryancope123
|
 |
August 08, 2017, 12:20:16 PM |
|
Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it; Batch 1 = 200 units Batch 2 = 3000 units Batch 3 = 3500 units If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current? Real numbers are: B1: 250 07/18/2017 B2: 3300 07/20/2017 B3: 35000 08/03/2017 Don#t think so mate, i timed the sales of the D3, they literally went from in stock to out in just shy of 10 minutes, NO WAY is that 35k !! |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
You can see the statistics of your reports to moderators on the "Report to moderator" pages.
|
|
|
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
thiec
|
|
August 08, 2017, 12:24:54 PM |
|
Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it; Batch 1 = 200 units Batch 2 = 3000 units Batch 3 = 3500 units If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current? Real numbers are: B1: 250 07/18/2017 B2: 3300 07/20/2017 B3: 35000 08/03/2017 It never hit 35k logically by online sale, If there were 35k than its must be sale behind or off the site. And the number is no where to confirm What are the dimensions of the D3 and L3+ Miner in mm ?
D3 320*130*190mm L3+ 352mm (l) x 130mm (w) x 187.5mm (h) |
|
|
|
|
CryptoCrane (OP)
|
|
August 08, 2017, 12:25:02 PM |
|
Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it; Batch 1 = 200 units Batch 2 = 3000 units Batch 3 = 3500 units If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current? Real numbers are: B1: 250 07/18/2017 B2: 3300 07/20/2017 B3: 35000 08/03/2017 That can't be correct. I'm fairly certain that I personally know of more than 250 units being delivered from batch 1. I'd believe 2500. Also, those batch 3 numbers are completely bogus too. The 35000 number was derived from querying some web hooks on Bitmain's site and somebody made the assumption that it represented units sold and units remaining. The people spreading this FUD are either wrong or just trying to scare others into not purchasing so that the initial batches can be more profitable for longer. |
|
|
|
|
mousehouse
|
|
August 08, 2017, 12:56:54 PM |
|
Just saw the announcement that additional D3's are available to buy end of this week. Maybe I'm overlooking but when do they expect to ship these?
|
|
|
|
|
|
BenRickert
|
|
August 08, 2017, 01:04:51 PM |
|
Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it; Batch 1 = 200 units Batch 2 = 3000 units Batch 3 = 3500 units If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current? Real numbers are: B1: 250 07/18/2017 B2: 3300 07/20/2017 B3: 35000 08/03/2017 That can't be correct. I'm fairly certain that I personally know of more than 250 units being delivered from batch 1. I'd believe 2500. Also, those batch 3 numbers are completely bogus too. The 35000 number was derived from querying some web hooks on Bitmain's site and somebody made the assumption that it represented units sold and units remaining. The people spreading this FUD are either wrong or just trying to scare others into not purchasing so that the initial batches can be more profitable for longer. I didn't type "35,000" I typed 3500. Take it easy Crypto, you'll still be able to sell your extra units on Amazon at huge markups. There's a sucker born every minute ya know. |
|
|
|
|
BenRickert
|
|
August 08, 2017, 01:06:32 PM |
|
Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it; Batch 1 = 200 units Batch 2 = 3000 units Batch 3 = 3500 units If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current? Real numbers are: B1: 250 07/18/2017 B2: 3300 07/20/2017 B3: 35000 08/03/2017 3500 NOT 35,000. Don't be ridiculous. |
|
|
|
|
CryptoCrane (OP)
|
|
August 08, 2017, 01:28:23 PM |
|
I didn't type "35,000" I typed 3500. Take it easy Crypto...
It was albertojames who said 35k, not you BenRicker - I know you're smarter than that. I meant no disrespect to you. |
|
|
|
|
BenRickert
|
|
August 08, 2017, 01:52:59 PM |
|
I didn't type "35,000" I typed 3500. Take it easy Crypto...
It was albertojames who said 35k, not you BenRicker - I know you're smarter than that. I meant no disrespect to you. I saw that after I posted in haste. A " pre-coffee post". NP I'm just jealous of your awesome rep status on Amazon. You deserve whatever profits you make. You're a stand up guy in a world of scammers and miscreants. |
|
|
|
sovacar
Newbie
 Offline
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
|
|
August 08, 2017, 02:51:01 PM |
|
Current Dash network hashrate is somewhere around 15 TH/s. That means that if there was a total of ~7000 Antminers D3 sold in the first 3 batches, that the network hashrate is going to jump by (15GH/s=0.015TH/s) 0.015 TH/s*7000 = 105 TH. That is of course not including other ASIC manufacturers and making an assumption that all those Antminers already sold are not already hashing right now. This is pretty much a 10x bump in network hashrate even for first 3 batches. Does that means that the profits are going to be cut 10 times, leaving you with 20 bucks a day?
Am I mising something?
|
|
|
|
|
|
thesavoyard
|
|
August 08, 2017, 03:00:54 PM |
|
Current Dash network hashrate is somewhere around 15 TH/s. That means that if there was a total of ~7000 Antminers D3 sold in the first 3 batches, that the network hashrate is going to jump by (15GH/s=0.015TH/s) 0.015 TH/s*7000 = 105 TH. That is of course not including other ASIC manufacturers and making an assumption that all those Antminers already sold are not already hashing right now. This is pretty much a 10x bump in network hashrate even for first 3 batches. Does that means that the profits are going to be cut 10 times, leaving you with 20 bucks a day?
Am I mising something?
Do you honestly think the 15 TH that are mining now are going to stay on? Also, the other miners are going to be a minority. There's been historically a price increase with hash increase. We'll have to see if that holds true. |
|
|
|
|
CryptoCrane (OP)
|
|
August 08, 2017, 03:17:19 PM |
|
Current Dash network hashrate is somewhere around 15 TH/s. That means that if there was a total of ~7000 Antminers D3 sold in the first 3 batches, that the network hashrate is going to jump by (15GH/s=0.015TH/s) 0.015 TH/s*7000 = 105 TH. That is of course not including other ASIC manufacturers and making an assumption that all those Antminers already sold are not already hashing right now. This is pretty much a 10x bump in network hashrate even for first 3 batches. Does that means that the profits are going to be cut 10 times, leaving you with 20 bucks a day?
Am I mising something?
Do you honestly think the 15 TH that are mining now are going to stay on? Also, the other miners are going to be a minority. There's been historically a price increase with hash increase. We'll have to see if that holds true. There's also a good chance that much of the hashrate from the D3s has already been added to the network while Bitmain "tests" them. We'll likely see a noticeable downward spike when they ship the first batch. |
|
|
|
|
Longsnowsm
|
|
August 08, 2017, 03:33:25 PM |
|
I appreciate the analysis that as hash rate climbs the price climbs. However if you use BTC as an example there is a TON of hash chasing BTC and the profitability of those miners who mine BTC for the most part is really not very good. This is why so many people mine the "alt's" and not BTC directly.
With this much hash rate dumping on X11 even if the price climbs the return/profitability of the miners is going to really stink and by the end of the year, and is probably going to be a pretty grim picture. I don't mine BTC directly for a reason. And with this huge dog pile in X11 it looks like there are very good reasons to not mine X11. Now if you were one of the lucky ones to get a DM11G in the first batches or possibly even one of the first batches from Bitmain you may have a shot at getting your ROI in good time frame, but everything after that starts to look like a daily grind to squeeze out any profit. I say congrats to the guys who bought the first batches and will likely get rewarded for their risk taking. Everyone else jumping in now are going to be shocked as their calculations for profits crumble.
If you really think Dash is going that high then now is the time to buy a lot of Dash and hold it.
I have Baikal A900 giants and the profitability of those miners has fallen to almost nothing already regardless of the algo that they support. By next month if things don't change those miners may be lucky to break even after cost at this rate of decline.
It is time for a reality check on the expectations for these miners. Ask someone who is mining X11 right now what the picture looks like already.
|
|
|
|
|
|
bearsworth
|
|
August 08, 2017, 03:39:49 PM |
|
I appreciate the analysis that as hash rate climbs the price climbs. However if you use BTC as an example there is a TON of hash chasing BTC and the profitability of those miners who mine BTC for the most part is really not very good. This is why so many people mine the "alt's" and not BTC directly.
With this much hash rate dumping on X11 even if the price climbs the return/profitability of the miners is going to really stink and by the end of the year, and is probably going to be a pretty grim picture. I don't mine BTC directly for a reason. And with this huge dog pile in X11 it looks like there are very good reasons to not mine X11. Now if you were one of the lucky ones to get a DM11G in the first batches or possibly even one of the first batches from Bitmain you may have a shot at getting your ROI in good time frame, but everything after that starts to look like a daily grind to squeeze out any profit. I say congrats to the guys who bought the first batches and will likely get rewarded for their risk taking. Everyone else jumping in now are going to be shocked as their calculations for profits crumble.
If you really think Dash is going that high then now is the time to buy a lot of Dash and hold it.
I have Baikal A900 giants and the profitability of those miners has fallen to almost nothing already regardless of the algo that they support. By next month if things don't change those miners may be lucky to break even after cost at this rate of decline.
It is time for a reality check on the expectations for these miners. Ask someone who is mining X11 right now what the picture looks like already.
I bet Bitmain will delay batches to release late September. They will announce, "Driver issue. More testing!" |
Bitrated user: cryptomark.
|
|
|
asharpguy01
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
|
|
August 08, 2017, 04:03:55 PM |
|
I appreciate the analysis that as hash rate climbs the price climbs. However if you use BTC as an example there is a TON of hash chasing BTC and the profitability of those miners who mine BTC for the most part is really not very good. This is why so many people mine the "alt's" and not BTC directly.
With this much hash rate dumping on X11 even if the price climbs the return/profitability of the miners is going to really stink and by the end of the year, and is probably going to be a pretty grim picture. I don't mine BTC directly for a reason. And with this huge dog pile in X11 it looks like there are very good reasons to not mine X11. Now if you were one of the lucky ones to get a DM11G in the first batches or possibly even one of the first batches from Bitmain you may have a shot at getting your ROI in good time frame, but everything after that starts to look like a daily grind to squeeze out any profit. I say congrats to the guys who bought the first batches and will likely get rewarded for their risk taking. Everyone else jumping in now are going to be shocked as their calculations for profits crumble.
If you really think Dash is going that high then now is the time to buy a lot of Dash and hold it.
I have Baikal A900 giants and the profitability of those miners has fallen to almost nothing already regardless of the algo that they support. By next month if things don't change those miners may be lucky to break even after cost at this rate of decline.
It is time for a reality check on the expectations for these miners. Ask someone who is mining X11 right now what the picture looks like already.
I bet Bitmain will delay batches to release late September. They will announce, "Driver issue. More testing!" Have they done something like that in the past? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
sovacar
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
|
|
August 08, 2017, 04:11:09 PM |
|
Current Dash network hashrate is somewhere around 15 TH/s. That means that if there was a total of ~7000 Antminers D3 sold in the first 3 batches, that the network hashrate is going to jump by (15GH/s=0.015TH/s) 0.015 TH/s*7000 = 105 TH. That is of course not including other ASIC manufacturers and making an assumption that all those Antminers already sold are not already hashing right now. This is pretty much a 10x bump in network hashrate even for first 3 batches. Does that means that the profits are going to be cut 10 times, leaving you with 20 bucks a day?
Am I mising something?
Do you honestly think the 15 TH that are mining now are going to stay on? Also, the other miners are going to be a minority. There's been historically a price increase with hash increase. We'll have to see if that holds true. I do believe they are "testing" the miners that are about to be shipped, but even if 2/3 of the current hashrate are the ones that are going to be shipped, its still a ~10x increase. In my calculations, this batch coiming in november is looking at ~20 bucks a day, and its probably going to be a 3-5 months to ROI |
|
|
|
|
|
Strebba90
|
|
August 08, 2017, 04:20:51 PM |
|
|
Am I spamming? Report me!
|
|
|
|
lentyna
|
|
August 08, 2017, 04:28:29 PM |
|
Does anyone have any idea how many D3s are going to be released in the past 3 batches? I was doing some calculations on difficulty and hashrate and came up with 1 GH/s adds about 22.5 to difficulty. So, one D3 would add 337.5 at 15 GH/s. I'm trying to see if it would be worth getting some in their next release.
Rumor has it; Batch 1 = 200 units Batch 2 = 3200 units Batch 3 = 3500 units If so....by your calculations an additional 2,328,750 Difficulty from current? yep, that's not including their mining equipment or anyone else coming online before Nov. Let's not forget iBelink and Innosilicon. X11 will be a battle ground in the next few months. + the D3 units Bitmain will put up on Hashnest When are they planning to do that? |
|
|
|
|
|
Ryancope123
|
|
August 08, 2017, 04:30:51 PM |
|
Hi guys, am I thinking right here. 15GH is 15,000 MH's?
Would half the current miners be turning off when the big miners come online? of setting the difficulty some what?
I will think the ROI will be very fast for the D3 in the first 2 batches...
|
|
|
|
asharpguy01
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 23
Merit: 0
|
|
August 08, 2017, 04:35:16 PM |
|
Hi guys, am I thinking right here. 15GH is 15,000 MH's?
Would half the current miners be turning off when the big miners come online? of setting the difficulty some what?
I will think the ROI will be very fast for the D3 in the first 2 batches...
Yup. But that's it. Third and fourth will probably take much longer. Unless you think Dash is going to $400-$500 sometime in the future. |
|
|
|
|
|
