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September 05, 2017, 12:11:13 PM
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The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.
I'm not even sure why people would want BCH to become BTC when one of the main person behind BCH split already mentioned that BCH is not BTC.


Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin, segwitcoin is the fork.

And it is not a become, it already is.  Segwitcoin propaganda has hidden that from the majority.

Also goes to show that the Bitcoin Cash Holders think for their-selves and don't follow a playbook like segwit supporters (that regurgitate everything G.Maxwell says.)


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Why did the team behind BCH NOT declare BCH as the new BTC then? Your argument might make more sense if they did openly say BCH is the new BTC. I might even agree with you too if BCH was declared as the real BTC but why isn't that the case??

The upcoming Segwitx2 (if it happens) is going to call their Segwitx2 as the real BTC and not some other name like BCH.

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September 05, 2017, 12:24:11 PM
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The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.
I'm not even sure why people would want BCH to become BTC when one of the main person behind BCH split already mentioned that BCH is not BTC.


Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin, segwitcoin is the fork.

And it is not a become, it already is.  Segwitcoin propaganda has hidden that from the majority.

Also goes to show that the Bitcoin Cash Holders think for their-selves and don't follow a playbook like segwit supporters (that regurgitate everything G.Maxwell says.)


╥Aztek


Why did the team behind BCH NOT declare BCH as the new BTC then? Your argument might make more sense if they did openly say BCH is the new BTC. I might even agree with you too if BCH was declared as the new BTC but why isn't that the case??

The upcoming Segwitx2 (if it happens) is going to call their Segwitx2 as the real BTC and not some other name like BCH.


Look at the past 2 years of Bitcoin community. The information you ask is everywhere. It is a matter of letting yourself look at it.
Analogy: hundreds of years ago if anyone questioned church and state, they would be ridiculed. Nowadays, if anyone were to question Segwit, they would be ridiculed.
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September 05, 2017, 12:25:51 PM
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The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.
I'm not even sure why people would want BCH to become BTC when one of the main person behind BCH split already mentioned that BCH is not BTC.


Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin, segwitcoin is the fork.

And it is not a become, it already is.  Segwitcoin propaganda has hidden that from the majority.

Also goes to show that the Bitcoin Cash Holders think for their-selves and don't follow a playbook like segwit supporters (that regurgitate everything G.Maxwell says.)


╥Aztek
Why did the team behind BCH NOT declare BCH as the new BTC then? Your argument might make more sense if they did openly say BCH is the new BTC. I might even agree with you too if BCH was declared as the real BTC but why isn't that the case??

The upcoming Segwitx2 (if it happens) is going to call their Segwitx2 as the real BTC and not some other name like BCH.

There's no need to declare Cash the real Bitcoin.
For me, both Cash and Segwit should be considered forks of the original Bitcoin chain.
Now, we just need to wait for the market to handle this mess.
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September 05, 2017, 12:33:49 PM
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The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.
I'm not even sure why people would want BCH to become BTC when one of the main person behind BCH split already mentioned that BCH is not BTC.


Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin, segwitcoin is the fork.

And it is not a become, it already is.  Segwitcoin propaganda has hidden that from the majority.

Also goes to show that the Bitcoin Cash Holders think for their-selves and don't follow a playbook like segwit supporters (that regurgitate everything G.Maxwell says.)


╥Aztek
Why did the team behind BCH NOT declare BCH as the new BTC then? Your argument might make more sense if they did openly say BCH is the new BTC. I might even agree with you too if BCH was declared as the real BTC but why isn't that the case??

The upcoming Segwitx2 (if it happens) is going to call their Segwitx2 as the real BTC and not some other name like BCH.

There's no need to declare Cash the real Bitcoin.
For me, both Cash and Segwit should be considered forks of the original Bitcoin chain.
Now, we just need to wait for the market to handle this mess.

Indeed, the market is god. Not who says and does what and not.
Gravitation towards that direction which it gravitates, for the reasons that it gravitates.
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September 05, 2017, 12:47:48 PM
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The movement of Bitcoin Cash shows that it is pretty much just another altcoin. I realized that many people were of the opinion that Bitcoin Cash will take over should the real Bitcoin drop. Can't really see that happening.
I'm not even sure why people would want BCH to become BTC when one of the main person behind BCH split already mentioned that BCH is not BTC.


Bitcoin Cash is the Real Bitcoin, segwitcoin is the fork.

And it is not a become, it already is.  Segwitcoin propaganda has hidden that from the majority.

Also goes to show that the Bitcoin Cash Holders think for their-selves and don't follow a playbook like segwit supporters (that regurgitate everything G.Maxwell says.)


╥Aztek
Why did the team behind BCH NOT declare BCH as the new BTC then? Your argument might make more sense if they did openly say BCH is the new BTC. I might even agree with you too if BCH was declared as the real BTC but why isn't that the case??

The upcoming Segwitx2 (if it happens) is going to call their Segwitx2 as the real BTC and not some other name like BCH.

There's no need to declare Cash the real Bitcoin.
For me, both Cash and Segwit should be considered forks of the original Bitcoin chain.
Now, we just need to wait for the market to handle this mess.

Indeed, the market is god. Not who says and does what and not.
Gravitation towards that direction which it gravitates, for the reasons that it gravitates.

Yeah, I do feel your sarcasm   Cheesy
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September 05, 2017, 02:21:00 PM
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BCH is a failed altcoin...
Argumentation is one thing but BCH is number 3 in https://coinmarketcap.com, it is even bigger than Ripple and Litecoin.

...why do you lie?
You think that a market cap for a currency is valid / significant metric? Damn you've been doing some hard kool-aid. Roll Eyes

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September 05, 2017, 02:56:07 PM
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BCC had a nice spring back, dead?  Grin

BTC difficulty adjustment soon.

It's looking more and more as if both will coexist for now.

Race to the moon!
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September 05, 2017, 03:04:17 PM
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lols stupid trolls are back,

now, wheres that blackwidow and the $400 bitcoin cash, going to $50  Cheesy
 has he crawled back into his hole  Cheesy
i was gonna quote him since i qualify according to his previous post about making profits from alts from the begining lol.

next time you run your mouth here about $50 bitcoin cash, make sure you have a bit of substance to your stupid claims young spider

pro tip for you widow...hope you didnt sell your bitcoincash, 0.12 is as cheap as it gets.




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September 05, 2017, 03:55:40 PM
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BCC had a nice spring back, dead?  Grin

BTC difficulty adjustment soon.

It's looking more and more as if both will coexist for now.

Race to the moon!

Both will co-exist there is no doubt about this and as for the upcoming difficulty adjust its looking like BTC will increase and BCH will decrease which will probably put BCH ahead in profitability and we know how that will probably turn out  
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September 05, 2017, 04:08:44 PM
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BCH is a failed altcoin...
Argumentation is one thing but BCH is number 3 in https://coinmarketcap.com, it is even bigger than Ripple and Litecoin.

...why do you lie?
You think that a market cap for a currency is valid / significant metric? Damn you've been doing some hard kool-aid. Roll Eyes

If market size is not a metric for this, then I do not know what is. That is what shows how much money/people in it.

I think there is something wrong with you.

No it does not as it takes into account ALL coins in existence including lost ones i wallets and ones locked up in places like coinbase  

There could be 16M BCH issued and all but 10 for example are lost with 10 people fighting over them saying they are worth 1k that would give a market cap of $16000000000 and you think this is more relevant than millions upon millions giving for example 8M BTC that are not lost a value of 1k with the same market cap of $16000000000

Now lets look at the ones in use
BCH 10x $1000 = $4000
BTC 8000000 x $1000 = $8000000000

Now granted these are unrealistic and made up numbers but it shows why the marketcap is useless


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September 05, 2017, 04:09:51 PM
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BCC had a nice spring back, dead?  Grin

BTC difficulty adjustment soon.

It's looking more and more as if both will coexist for now.

Race to the moon!

Both will co-exist there is no doubt about this and as for the upcoming difficulty adjust its looking like BTC will increase and BCH will decrease which will probably put BCH ahead in profitability and we know how that will probably turn out  

Which date/day will this happen? (Sorry if stupid question)

At current speeds BTC just under 24hours and BCH just over a week
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September 05, 2017, 04:11:20 PM
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BCC had a nice spring back, dead?  Grin

BTC difficulty adjustment soon.

It's looking more and more as if both will coexist for now.

Race to the moon!

Both will co-exist there is no doubt about this and as for the upcoming difficulty adjust its looking like BTC will increase and BCH will decrease which will probably put BCH ahead in profitability and we know how that will probably turn out  
let me guess,
it could result in you getting more donations of your new fav coin, bch  Wink Tongue

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September 05, 2017, 04:19:09 PM
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BCC had a nice spring back, dead?  Grin

BTC difficulty adjustment soon.

It's looking more and more as if both will coexist for now.

Race to the moon!

Both will co-exist there is no doubt about this and as for the upcoming difficulty adjust its looking like BTC will increase and BCH will decrease which will probably put BCH ahead in profitability and we know how that will probably turn out  

Which date/day will this happen? (Sorry if stupid question)

At current speeds BTC just under 24hours and BCH just over a week

Thank you. Hm, so this will mean BCH price will probably go up a bit in that time if I understood you correctly.

No it does not work like that the price can even go down the price is what the users determine it is worth depending on how many want to buy or sell

If a greater amount is being sold compared to buyers it goes down and if a greater amount is being bought compared to being sold it goes up it has nothing to do with the difficulty most of the miners will just put hashrate onto which is most profitable

When BCH is more profitable you generally get a lot move over and this causes a huge difficulty increase over a few days making it unprofitable then they all leave again leaving it dead for a day until the emergency difficulty reduction kicks in
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September 05, 2017, 04:25:43 PM
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[AMA] I am Amaury Séchet (/u/deadalnix) Bitcoin ABC lead dev, first implementation of Bitcoin Cash. Ask me anything!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoincash/comments/6y7ssg/ama_i_am_amaury_s%C3%A9chet_udeadalnix_bitcoin_abc/

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September 05, 2017, 04:27:29 PM
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BCC had a nice spring back, dead?  Grin

BTC difficulty adjustment soon.

It's looking more and more as if both will coexist for now.

Race to the moon!

Both will co-exist there is no doubt about this and as for the upcoming difficulty adjust its looking like BTC will increase and BCH will decrease which will probably put BCH ahead in profitability and we know how that will probably turn out  
let me guess,
it could result in you getting more donations of your new fav coin, bch  Wink Tongue

Haha no im still 100% behind core sorry to disappoint and I dont't ever expect donations I never push or ask for them but its free to place it in the signature so why not lol

I do make money from the amazon referral links though and some people buy some weird stuff lmao its a good job I have no idea who buys what
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The only reason people constantly go out of their way to say a coin is dead, or a coin is going to "FOR SURE" die, is because they aren't sure about what they are claiming. Otherwise, they wouldn't even bother typing.

Likewise, the only reason people go out of their way to say a coin is thriving, or a coin is going to "FOR SURE" thrive, is because that's what naturally happens in a community where a coin is growing. (But in a community where a coin is not growing, what naturally happens is no one says a single word for days, weeks, or even months. Good or bad. No one--quite literally--even bothers to care).
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September 05, 2017, 05:49:21 PM
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The bitcoin cash price dropped below $500 on Chinese exchanges on Tuesday following investor panic about the Chinese ban of initial coin offerings (ICOs).

The ban, which was announced by the People’s Bank of China (PBoC) earlier this week, bars Chinese citizens and residents from hosting or participating in ICOs. The ruling further ordered groups that have already completed ICOs to return the funds to investors. Panic ensued, and traders initiated a massive sell-off that extended far beyond the cryptocurrencies directly affected by the PBoC ruling, including bitcoin cash.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-cash-price-drops-500-chinese-exchanges/
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September 05, 2017, 06:00:15 PM
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The bitcoin cash price dropped below $500 on Chinese exchanges on Tuesday following investor panic about the Chinese ban of initial coin offerings (ICOs).

The ban, which was announced by the People’s Bank of China (PBoC) earlier this week, bars Chinese citizens and residents from hosting or participating in ICOs. The ruling further ordered groups that have already completed ICOs to return the funds to investors. Panic ensued, and traders initiated a massive sell-off that extended far beyond the cryptocurrencies directly affected by the PBoC ruling, including bitcoin cash.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-cash-price-drops-500-chinese-exchanges/

The ban actually throw almost everyone in red, not just Bitcoin Cash. But there seems to be lots of pumps and dumps with Bitcoin Cash, price volatility is crazy.
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September 05, 2017, 06:43:13 PM
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If market size is not a metric for this, then I do not know what is. That is what shows how much money/people in it.
You are so uneducated that this is hilarious and pathetic at the same time. You're trying to tell me that I can dump $8 billion worth of BCH? Roll Eyes

I think there is something wrong with you.
Take a look in the mirror, and then go back to economics for dummies.

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Let me take a guess: paid by either Ver or Jihan. Roll Eyes

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September 05, 2017, 07:10:42 PM
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I do not have a phd in economics, but then again, you do not have it either.
I have not asked for a phd. I'm well above the 'for dummies' level, but it seems that you're well under it.

You expect everyone to work for free? He already explained he got most of the money from a grant.
Why would anyone, who is still in their right mind, create a grant for Bitcoin ABC? He's full of bullshit.

But so what if he gets paid by Roger or Jihan? Something wrong with working for money?
Plenty of wrong with both Roger and Jihan. Smiley

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