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July 14, 2018, 10:37:29 PM
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for someone who claims to be presenting information I am sure having a hard time to find any actual information.  Maybe keep your day job. 

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bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.

What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.

.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...

I agree

Have you got anything?

Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes

Yes and what point.  



this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time



Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.

https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072

Quote
We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter

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Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance

Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.

Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/


Remember i am not her to prove anything, just provide you with information that is already known.

Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/

“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.
Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.

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The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.
Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.
People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....


They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal as well
Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)

It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War

liberty reserve scandal - Remember that one Roger, Craig

‘It’s time roger’?
Time for what? another dinner with another billionaire (we know why Roger knows these people, their the ones behind Roger - Oops) as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though.

With the millions now funded, get the coins back. Great thing is I have all the evidence.


for someone who claims to be presenting information I am sure having a hard time to find any actual information.  Maybe keep your day job.  

 Grin Grin Grin  does not know how to right click and search google
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack


Everything you wanted to find on Roger

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Who did Roger help with Liberty reserve scandal
Why is Roger at the center of it all




Its like you believe people think you have words of wisdom


http://monezy.com/news/bitcoin-news/us-national-security-agency-develops-system-to-identify-bitcoin-users-say-leaked-docs/



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July 14, 2018, 11:32:38 PM
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If BitcoinCash did not position itself as a real Bitcoin, then I think more people treated it positively. History with BitcoinCash resembles a fraud and an attempt to fool people and sell them a fake Bitcoin.
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July 14, 2018, 11:41:50 PM
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If BitcoinCash did not position itself as a real Bitcoin, then I think more people treated it positively. History with BitcoinCash resembles a fraud and an attempt to fool people and sell them a fake Bitcoin.

no one is positioning themselves, etc.  It is the real BitCoin because btc left the BitCoin traits behind some time ago.  The fork was delayed until the last possible moment because it was not anything anyone wanted to happen.  Segwit changes BitCoin so much that it is no longer recognizable as BitCoin sadly and thus the need for the fork to preserve the p2p ecash vision.



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July 14, 2018, 11:46:16 PM
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bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.

What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.

.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...

I agree

Have you got anything?

Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes

Yes and what point.  



this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time



Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.

https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072

Quote
We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter

Quote
Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance

Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.

Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/


Remember i am not her to prove anything, just provide you with information that is already known.

Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/

“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.
Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.

...."Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
Jul 10
The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.
Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.
People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....


They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal as well
Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)

It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War

liberty reserve scandal - Remember that one Roger, Craig

‘It’s time roger’?
Time for what? another dinner with another billionaire (we know why Roger knows these people, their the ones behind Roger - Oops) as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though.

With the millions now funded, get the coins back. Great thing is I have all the evidence.


for someone who claims to be presenting information I am sure having a hard time to find any actual information.  Maybe keep your day job.  

 Grin Grin Grin  does not know how to right click and search google
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack


Everything you wanted to find on Roger

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Who did Roger help with Liberty reserve scandal
Why is Roger at the center of it all




Its like you believe people think you have words of wisdom


http://monezy.com/news/bitcoin-news/us-national-security-agency-develops-system-to-identify-bitcoin-users-say-leaked-docs/




so with all your posting here you cannot post the link or the relevant info for the people to review?

The mt. Gox people are in court so why then is roger not in court also?  Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators?  

Interesting how you post links to stuff that is from left field like what e. snowden said regarding digital money users being followed yet you cannot make your point when it comes to roger.  I think you have a peculiar definition of fraud that is shared by no one with any type of brainpower.

I personally think you are attempting to keep people from learning about the real bitcoin [BCH] and therefore are more of a fraud then roger ever will be.  Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company because they could fail.  Have you ever considered that in your world view or is that too much for you to consider??

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July 14, 2018, 11:53:22 PM
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If BitcoinCash did not position itself as a real Bitcoin, then I think more people treated it positively. History with BitcoinCash resembles a fraud and an attempt to fool people and sell them a fake Bitcoin.

no one is positioning themselves, etc.  It is the real BitCoin because btc left the BitCoin traits behind some time ago.  The fork was delayed until the last possible moment because it was not anything anyone wanted to happen.  Segwit changes BitCoin so much that it is no longer recognizable as BitCoin sadly and thus the need for the fork to preserve the p2p ecash vision.




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July 14, 2018, 11:55:57 PM
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If BitcoinCash did not position itself as a real Bitcoin, then I think more people treated it positively. History with BitcoinCash resembles a fraud and an attempt to fool people and sell them a fake Bitcoin.

no one is positioning themselves, etc.  It is the real BitCoin because btc left the BitCoin traits behind some time ago.  The fork was delayed until the last possible moment because it was not anything anyone wanted to happen.  Segwit changes BitCoin so much that it is no longer recognizable as BitCoin sadly and thus the need for the fork to preserve the p2p ecash vision.



I disagree with you. Bitcoin looks more unchanged than Bitcoin Cash. The enlargement of the block at the request of Roger Ver is the original idea of Bitcoin?
I do not remember that Roger Ver asked the community for an opinion on this matter.
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July 15, 2018, 12:04:12 AM
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If BitcoinCash did not position itself as a real Bitcoin, then I think more people treated it positively. History with BitcoinCash resembles a fraud and an attempt to fool people and sell them a fake Bitcoin.

no one is positioning themselves, etc.  It is the real BitCoin because btc left the BitCoin traits behind some time ago.  The fork was delayed until the last possible moment because it was not anything anyone wanted to happen.  Segwit changes BitCoin so much that it is no longer recognizable as BitCoin sadly and thus the need for the fork to preserve the p2p ecash vision.



I disagree with you. Bitcoin looks more unchanged than Bitcoin Cash. The enlargement of the block at the request of Roger Ver is the original idea of Bitcoin?
I do not remember that Roger Ver asked the community for an opinion on this matter.


Troll harder Pls



Sorry I could not take your question seriously because it really is so silly of a question that I cannot believe someone could be that base to think such things in the first place.  I am sure you understand.

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July 15, 2018, 12:05:45 AM
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If BitcoinCash did not position itself as a real Bitcoin, then I think more people treated it positively. History with BitcoinCash resembles a fraud and an attempt to fool people and sell them a fake Bitcoin.

no one is positioning themselves, etc.  It is the real BitCoin because btc left the BitCoin traits behind some time ago.  The fork was delayed until the last possible moment because it was not anything anyone wanted to happen.  Segwit changes BitCoin so much that it is no longer recognizable as BitCoin sadly and thus the need for the fork to preserve the p2p ecash vision.




BTI is the real bitcoin. ~instant code was forked(2014) before the separation of headers like BCH has Wink busted<<<game overrrr


I feel like once Gemybitzzzzzzzz is on the scene other trolls take the backseat!!!   ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz

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July 15, 2018, 12:30:12 AM
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If BitcoinCash did not position itself as a real Bitcoin, then I think more people treated it positively. History with BitcoinCash resembles a fraud and an attempt to fool people and sell them a fake Bitcoin.

no one is positioning themselves, etc.  It is the real BitCoin because btc left the BitCoin traits behind some time ago.  The fork was delayed until the last possible moment because it was not anything anyone wanted to happen.  Segwit changes BitCoin so much that it is no longer recognizable as BitCoin sadly and thus the need for the fork to preserve the p2p ecash vision.



I disagree with you. Bitcoin looks more unchanged than Bitcoin Cash. The enlargement of the block at the request of Roger Ver is the original idea of Bitcoin?
I do not remember that Roger Ver asked the community for an opinion on this matter.


Troll harder Pls



Sorry I could not take your question seriously because it really is so silly of a question that I cannot believe someone could be that base to think such things in the first place.  I am sure you understand.
This is not trolling.
BitcoinCash has a much smaller community than the Bitcoin community. Also, BitcoinCash is much less trusted. The centralized approach to making changes is clearly not Satoshi's vision.
These and many other factors indicate that BitcoinCash is a common altcoin. I think that the name CashCoin would be acceptable.
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July 15, 2018, 12:35:56 AM
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bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.

What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.

.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...

I agree

Have you got anything?

Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes

Yes and what point.  



this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time



Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.

https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072

Quote
We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter

Quote
Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance

Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.

Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/


Remember i am not her to prove anything, just provide you with information that is already known.

Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/

“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.
Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.

...."Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
Jul 10
The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.
Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.
People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....


They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal as well
Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)

It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War

liberty reserve scandal - Remember that one Roger, Craig

‘It’s time roger’?
Time for what? another dinner with another billionaire (we know why Roger knows these people, their the ones behind Roger - Oops) as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though.

With the millions now funded, get the coins back. Great thing is I have all the evidence.


for someone who claims to be presenting information I am sure having a hard time to find any actual information.  Maybe keep your day job.  

 Grin Grin Grin  does not know how to right click and search google
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack


Everything you wanted to find on Roger

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Who did Roger help with Liberty reserve scandal
Why is Roger at the center of it all




Its like you believe people think you have words of wisdom


http://monezy.com/news/bitcoin-news/us-national-security-agency-develops-system-to-identify-bitcoin-users-say-leaked-docs/




so with all your posting here you cannot post the link or the relevant info for the people to review?

The mt. Gox people are in court so why then is roger not in court also?  Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators?  

Interesting how you post links to stuff that is from left field like what e. snowden said regarding digital money users being followed yet you cannot make your point when it comes to roger.  I think you have a peculiar definition of fraud that is shared by no one with any type of brainpower.

I personally think you are attempting to keep people from learning about the real bitcoin [BCH] and therefore are more of a fraud then roger ever will be.  Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company because they could fail.  Have you ever considered that in your world view or is that too much for you to consider??

Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators.

Thanks for the tip

Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company (Does not mean you need to help them hide the evidence)

In my world view, when you have knowledge of a crime, you send it to the authorities



The Bitcoin Foundation’s Flawed Membership Structure

TBF was formed in September 2012 by Gavin Andresen, Jon Matonis, Patrick Murck, Peter Vessenes, Roger Ver, Charles Schrem and Mark Karpeles.  (hmmmm all the crims)

https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-foundation-members-resigning-brock-pierce-controversy/


And ask Roger about Brock and his connection to the Clinton Foundation

How much bitcoin went to Hillary

Future proves past


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And you..please...
STFU  Cheesy..
go create a new thread..."i got rogered" and tell everyone where you got hurt... Tongue

Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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And you..please...
STFU  Cheesy..
go create a new thread..."i got rogered" and tell everyone where you got hurt... Tongue


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No
"You all got rogered"

I doin fine

Just helpin the crypto community

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bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.
What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.
.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...
I agree
Have you got anything?
Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes
Yes and what point.  
this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time

Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.
https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072
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We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter
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Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance
Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.
Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/
Remember i am not her to prove anything, just provide you with information that is already known.
Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/
“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.
Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.
...."Dr Craig S Wright
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Jul 10
The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.
Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.
People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....

They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal as well
Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)
It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War
liberty reserve scandal - Remember that one Roger, Craig
‘It’s time roger’?
Time for what? another dinner with another billionaire (we know why Roger knows these people, their the ones behind Roger - Oops) as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though.
With the millions now funded, get the coins back. Great thing is I have all the evidence.

for someone who claims to be presenting information I am sure having a hard time to find any actual information.  Maybe keep your day job.  

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Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack

Everything you wanted to find on Roger
Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Who did Roger help with Liberty reserve scandal
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Its like you believe people think you have words of wisdom

http://monezy.com/news/bitcoin-news/us-national-security-agency-develops-system-to-identify-bitcoin-users-say-leaked-docs/


so with all your posting here you cannot post the link or the relevant info for the people to review?
The mt. Gox people are in court so why then is roger not in court also?  Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators?  
Interesting how you post links to stuff that is from left field like what e. snowden said regarding digital money users being followed yet you cannot make your point when it comes to roger.  I think you have a peculiar definition of fraud that is shared by no one with any type of brainpower.
I personally think you are attempting to keep people from learning about the real bitcoin [BCH] and therefore are more of a fraud then roger ever will be.  Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company because they could fail.  Have you ever considered that in your world view or is that too much for you to consider??

Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators.

Thanks for the tip
Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company (Does not mean you need to help them hide the evidence)
In my world view, when you have knowledge of a crime, you send it to the authorities
The Bitcoin Foundation’s Flawed Membership Structure
TBF was formed in September 2012 by Gavin Andresen, Jon Matonis, Patrick Murck, Peter Vessenes, Roger Ver, Charles Schrem and Mark Karpeles.  (hmmmm all the crims)
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-foundation-members-resigning-brock-pierce-controversy/
And ask Roger about Brock and his connection to the Clinton Foundation
How much bitcoin went to Hillary
Future proves past
And you..please...
STFU  Cheesy..
go create a new thread..."i got rogered" and tell everyone where you got hurt... Tongue
Grin Grin Grin
No
"You all got rogered"
I doin fine
Just helpin the crypto community
if we all did, then why are you saying it here?
as i said...make a thread and show everything you have, in a nice tidy thread where info you give can be accessed easily.
This is Bitcoin cash thread...and if your gembitz its bti thread lols....
its not a thread for giving personal opinions on any individuals.
Thank you


I like all the connections in one spot they look rather damaging do they not?




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Bitcoin cash is Bitcoin  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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bch is better than btc and truely the only right chain
Jr member with 52 activity gets his first merit point for saying bch is better than btc.....shocking
lol, pump me up to senior member please, bch is wayyyy better than bitcoin, they might co-exist together as each is a unique identity, one is more like peer to peer, the other is like store of value

Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Gotta hide the real blockchain hey Roger
Bitcoin thanks

All this aside, let’s put some reality into this debate.
I live in Venezuela where central banks have essentially failed. Despite this failure, merchants still have yet to adopt Bitcoin as payment due to fees, some use Bitcoin Cash and this is growing. But for the most part I have to use BTC regardless because localbitcoins is BTC.
If you follow @Dolartoday on twitter you’ll see 1 USD was trading at ~100,000 Bolivars in January to ~3,500,000 Bolivars today. For this reason I have to sell BTC at least 3 days a week. Those fees actually add up to more than my partners medical doctor salary per month.
When I see such irrelevant Roger Ver accusations and much worse idiots like Tone ‘No-brain’ Vays and Jimmy ‘always-wrong’ Song in their stupid cowboy hats trying to hide the fact the fact that they are balding out of Core BTC stress saying things like: ‘bcash is irrelevant,’ and ‘Roger Ver Scam’ LOL Faketoshi and centralization, BitPico H4x0r, only store of value!
You look like fucking idiots denying real world solutions subject to a global population. Look at our population growth and tell me the blocksize increase doesn’t correlate such rapidity. Putforth a half decent argument for once over there on the Core side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies.
What has my points got to do with you using Bcash, go ahead not stopping Bcash at all, Bcash away, Just sayin Bcash is not Bitcoin and a reminder leave the Blockchain alone.
.."Put forth a half decent argument for once over there on the Bcash side with more than just baseless accusations and Roger Ver conspiracies."...
I agree
Have you got anything?
Did you read past my argument on fees being higher then a doctors salary in Venezuela?
I see you managed to say ‘Bcash’ 5 times in 2 sentences. Further proving my point  Roll Eyes
Yes and what point.  
this point might affect your transactions, I hope not, this guy Roger has been screwing with peoples investments for a long time

Nick Szabo once said that "Bitcoin Cash is centralized sockpupptery". Bitpico is now proving it true.
https://twitter.com/bitPico/status/1017514874291843072
Quote
We now understand the centralized nature of #bcash $bch. It is just a UAHF (user activated hard fork) Sybil setup to force the hands of all nodes and miners in the ecosystem. Without this setup @JihanWu & @rogerkver are powerless to control their network. #bitcoin #nodes #matter
Quote
Forcing the decentralized portion of the network to upgrade to a hard fork codebase via a centralized Sybil attack is nonsensical? You do realize a #bcash $bch hard fork is scheduled and they are using these nodes to force the hands of the entire network. #blockchain #ignorance
Roger Ver is always convincing everyone in the community about the "non-mining nodes do not matter" narrative for good reason. Always be cynical if you see someone else saying it in the forum.
Some newbies might not know who is Nick Szabo. Read this, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/genesis-files-bit-gold-szabo-was-inches-away-inventing-bitcoin/
Remember i am not her to prove anything, just provide you with information that is already known.
Bcash Highly centralized at Alibaba
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-cash-network-highly-centralized-49-of-all-nodes-run-on-alibabas-facilities-bitpico/
“The [Bitcoin Cash] attack has been started; it will continue to run as we work to amplify it over the coming months. We expect to have 5000 Bcash attack nodes in roughly 6 weeks and then we will multi-fork the chain. @rogerkver will now cry,” Bitpico tweeted at the time.
Bitpico members are, however, not alone in accusing the Bitcoin Cash network of lacking decentralization. Last year in December Bitcoin developer Nick Szabo made similar accusations. Earlier in the year, a project manager at the Identity Division of Microsoft alluded to Bitcoin Cash by criticizing blocksize increases as being anti-decentralization. At the time Bitcoin Cash was planning to increase its blocksize fourfold from 8MB to 32MB and this was eventually realized in May.
...."Dr Craig S Wright
‏Verified account @ProfFaustus
Jul 10
The best way to destroy Bitcoin, add something like OP_EXEC.
Tech solutions to problems that do not exist.
People with ETH envy should just work on ETH. They might then finally understand why these asinine ideas are such shit.".....

They want the bitcoin blockchain gone because it holds the evidence of the liberty reserve scandal as well
Why they all looking at Bcashers as Satoshi (obvious these punks want bitcoin dead, not defeated, not replaced, GONE!!!)
It is and always has been since 2008 a Currency War
liberty reserve scandal - Remember that one Roger, Craig
‘It’s time roger’?
Time for what? another dinner with another billionaire (we know why Roger knows these people, their the ones behind Roger - Oops) as Roger did last night? I’m sure you’re comments more significant to Roger though.
With the millions now funded, get the coins back. Great thing is I have all the evidence.

for someone who claims to be presenting information I am sure having a hard time to find any actual information.  Maybe keep your day job.  

 Grin Grin Grin  does not know how to right click and search google
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack

Everything you wanted to find on Roger
Who would Roger Ver want to run his bitcointalk thread for bitcoin cash
Who would roger help in the MTGox Hack
Who would roger help in the big block debate
Who would roger help at Cryptsy, Lucky7coin
Who did Roger know at butterfly Labs Asic miners
Who did Roger know in the Silk Road operations under FBI investiagtion,
Who did Roger help with Liberty reserve scandal
Why is Roger at the center of it all

Its like you believe people think you have words of wisdom

http://monezy.com/news/bitcoin-news/us-national-security-agency-develops-system-to-identify-bitcoin-users-say-leaked-docs/


so with all your posting here you cannot post the link or the relevant info for the people to review?
The mt. Gox people are in court so why then is roger not in court also?  Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators?  
Interesting how you post links to stuff that is from left field like what e. snowden said regarding digital money users being followed yet you cannot make your point when it comes to roger.  I think you have a peculiar definition of fraud that is shared by no one with any type of brainpower.
I personally think you are attempting to keep people from learning about the real bitcoin [BCH] and therefore are more of a fraud then roger ever will be.  Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company because they could fail.  Have you ever considered that in your world view or is that too much for you to consider??

Are you claiming the courts were tricked by Rogers ability to do fraud undetected from the investigators.

Thanks for the tip
Good people make honest mistakes and many times it is risky to endorse a private company (Does not mean you need to help them hide the evidence)
In my world view, when you have knowledge of a crime, you send it to the authorities
The Bitcoin Foundation’s Flawed Membership Structure
TBF was formed in September 2012 by Gavin Andresen, Jon Matonis, Patrick Murck, Peter Vessenes, Roger Ver, Charles Schrem and Mark Karpeles.  (hmmmm all the crims)
https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-foundation-members-resigning-brock-pierce-controversy/
And ask Roger about Brock and his connection to the Clinton Foundation
How much bitcoin went to Hillary
Future proves past
And you..please...
STFU  Cheesy..
go create a new thread..."i got rogered" and tell everyone where you got hurt... Tongue
Grin Grin Grin
No
"You all got rogered"
I doin fine
Just helpin the crypto community
if we all did, then why are you saying it here?
as i said...make a thread and show everything you have, in a nice tidy thread where info you give can be accessed easily.
This is Bitcoin cash thread...and if your gembitz its bti thread lols....
its not a thread for giving personal opinions on any individuals.
Thank you

I like all the connections in one spot they look rather damaging do they not?






One more for all you bcashers

Craig Wright Bcash King


either way, we won't know the truth. at least for us it will remain a mystery, as it concerns the personal safety of Satoshi Nakomoto. Just imagine, if the world knew the identity of the founder, he would be put on international wanted list in many countries, all because our world is full of greedy and evil people.
but I still hold the view that our administrator theymos knows the identity of this person, and perhaps he is part of the Satoshi team. Despite this, I think that this person will be a long time to thank, as many users have already done. Smiley
Satoshi Nakamoto

This is completely irrelevant in this instance as;
Dave Kleiman is now deceased.

Craig Wright has already asserted himself to be Satoshi Nakamoto and is re-asserting BCH as the main BTC chain.

I, myself have nothing to lose in this regard, if I can help seek truth and justice then I will. TBH I would quite like to get some of my hard earned 'money' back myself! Grand larceny is a crime.
Most importantly, there are people like you who are willing to fight for justice and truth. After all, we all know that the power is in the truth. I'm certainly powerless to help you, but I would be very happy if you could get justice in this matter.

Here, here! Thank you.

For the record, logs I have are stored in multiple locations and I have also made sure that people who I can assume to trust in the Bitcoin space know my identity.




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Bitcoin cash is Bitcoin  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

Bitcoin Cash is the on-chain scalable Bitcoin, the faster growing Bitcoin, the Cash for masses who will ensure proper security and usability


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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg42206388#msg42206388

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Bitcoin is the most successful of all fork coins and is Bitcoin's biggest competitor.
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Bitcoin is the most successful of all fork coins and is Bitcoin's biggest competitor.

I agree

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