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August 30, 2018, 06:24:24 PM
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Does anyone know if your coins are safe in electron wallet in the event of HF/chain split or whatever may happen?
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August 30, 2018, 07:08:50 PM
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Does anyone know if your coins are safe in electron wallet in the event of HF/chain split or whatever may happen?

Since you have the keys, your coins will be safe. I just would not move your coins around November 15th until it is clear exactly what is going to happen. If a split does occur, and one side takes measures to protect their minority chain, you may miss out on free minority chain coins.

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August 30, 2018, 08:07:45 PM
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Does anyone know if your coins are safe in electron wallet in the event of HF/chain split or whatever may happen?

Since you have the keys, your coins will be safe. I just would not move your coins around November 15th until it is clear exactly what is going to happen. If a split does occur, and one side takes measures to protect their minority chain, you may miss out on free minority chain coins.

BTCe on all the prongs of all the forks. (totally unethical imho, but also a necessary truth).

Run / mine the (BCH) you 'trust' the most (or not).

If you want to dump buy or sell coins make sure that the corresponding chain is 'stable' first. Moving coins in this regard carries risks.

"Cobra Client will implement replay protection to prevent Bitcoin Cash transactions being replayed across alternative chains. This means users will be unaffected by the forked chains and drama of Bitcoin Cash ABC (BCA) and Bitcoin Cash nChain/Coingeek (BCN) chains and respective tokens."

Looks like Craig's Bitcoin Cash Satoshi Vision (alpha) just announced a Replay protection all of it's own - what an original copy cat.  Cheesy

~ I should not laugh or jest though I know, as I pointed out already this all has potentially serious implications for other peoples money, well being and effect on any kind of future BCH might realistically have.

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August 30, 2018, 09:23:23 PM
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Fudsters high time...

Nothing will happen. Just hash voting as per design.


https://twitter.com/CryptoStratz/status/1035123341533765633

And watch

https://twitter.com/thebitcointoken/status/1033148009926647809?s=21

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August 30, 2018, 10:41:31 PM
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Oh please. This is not going to be very convenient. CSW claims that his side has the most hash by a comfortable margin. However, I wouldn't minimize exactly what Bitmain is capable of when it comes to hash. (I'm not considering Cobra's fork since his fork implements replay protection, so it will be a clean break.)

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August 31, 2018, 07:29:40 AM
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https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles/status/1035322235983159296

And Gavin and Jon and.. but trolls gonna troll


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August 31, 2018, 08:00:26 AM
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I am therefore announcing Cobra Client, a safe and reliable implementation of the scheduled November hard fork. The hard fork implemented by Cobra Client will make no consensus changes or add any new features as it’s clear there is not enough consensus on issues around the new OP CODES and Canonical Transaction Ordering. Instead, Cobra Client will implement replay protection to prevent Bitcoin Cash transactions being replayed across alternative chains. This means users will be unaffected by the forked chains and drama of Bitcoin Cash ABC (BCA) and Bitcoin Cash nChain/Coingeek (BCN) chains and respective tokens.

So they will be 3 BCH ?
Bitcoin Cobra, Bitcoin SV & Bitcoin Cash ?

*popcorns*

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"I would like to remind everyone that stresstest day is approaching. Around 15million Tnxs are going to be pushed on to the mainnet of #BCH The 32 MB limit will definitely be hit a couple of times at least. http://stresstestbitcoin.cash  for more!"
- https://twitter.com/2nd_Entropy/status/1034967462620610560

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Doing this type of thing on the BCH main net is totally irresponsible at best, at worst it will cause total confusion for unsuspecting users and holders of BCH.


What's interesting to me is that a group called Bitpico already tried to do this independently and they had 600-800 nodes censored and blacklisted during the course of their test.

Seems like Bitcoin Craig is already hellbent on destroying BCH regardless:

https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus/status/1035108260297109504

By the way, what could have possibly made Wright so angry about ABC's proposal? I honestly don't understand. Yeah yeah changes to OP_THISANDTHAT but is that really an excuse to go off the handle and pretty much threaten death to Bitcoin ABC? Maybe the opportunity for profit makes him act angry.

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August 31, 2018, 10:12:22 AM
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Bitcoin Cash Drama: Battle Lines Drawn Ahead of Scheduled Hard Fork
- https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-cash-drama-battle-lines-drawn-ahead-of-scheduled-hard-fork

Announcing Cobra Client: a safe implementation of the Bitcoin Cash protocol and November hard fork
- https://medium.com/@CobraBitcoin/announcing-cobra-client-a-safe-implementation-of-the-bitcoin-cash-protocol-and-november-hard-fork-334bc86ce32f

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August 31, 2018, 10:13:20 AM
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... snip ...

The drama never ends in Bitcoin, now we have forks of forks having civil wars, can't wait to see what happens next that I can tell you.

Sing with me ...

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August 31, 2018, 10:14:10 AM
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Recent nChain announcements (in this regard):

- https://www.ccn.com/satoshis-vision-craig-wright-to-launch-bch-node-to-restore-original-bitcoin-protocol/

This looks both potentially very dangerous and totally unnecessary to me, unless I'm missing how they might look to lock it down (which I'm probably not).

These opcodes: OP_MUL, OP_LSHIFT, OP_RSHIFT, and OP_INVERT + 128MB blocks (for what? mega DDoS?)

- https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Common_Vulnerabilities_and_Exposures

These opcodes were disabled in the Bitcoin code base long-ago, because they have know and very practical attack vectors.

Perhaps if they were to implement them, then someone might be kind enough to demonstrate it!

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P.S. I'm not asserting that anyone is a 'scammer', although some of this stuff is outright 'crazy'.   Grin

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August 31, 2018, 10:16:55 AM
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All-Star Panel: Ed Moy, Joseph VaughnPerling, Trace Mayer, Nick Szabo, Dr. Craig Wright
- https://youtu.be/LdvQTwjVmrE

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They have gone "Full Billionaire Mode" ...

Were going "Full Mr. Robot Mode" ... - SWIM


- https://youtu.be/POxMp61Ksbk

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- https://youtu.be/8yX1dIK9vuc

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August 31, 2018, 10:37:01 AM
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when will it be listed on the exchanges? And what exchanges is the project intended to be listed?Tell me, please, such question, whether dividends will be added to holders of tokens of the given project?
you have an avarage IQ of the average BCASH supporter lol

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August 31, 2018, 12:59:07 PM
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https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles/status/1035322235983159296?s=21

In all fairness, anyone with a background in common law will understand that no one wants to be take ownership of being Satoshi Nakamoto.

Bitcoin SV (BSV) - A P2P Electronic Cash System Built for Everyday Global Use.
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August 31, 2018, 01:03:49 PM
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I am therefore announcing Cobra Client, a safe and reliable implementation of the scheduled November hard fork. The hard fork implemented by Cobra Client will make no consensus changes or add any new features as it’s clear there is not enough consensus on issues around the new OP CODES and Canonical Transaction Ordering. Instead, Cobra Client will implement replay protection to prevent Bitcoin Cash transactions being replayed across alternative chains. This means users will be unaffected by the forked chains and drama of Bitcoin Cash ABC (BCA) and Bitcoin Cash nChain/Coingeek (BCN) chains and respective tokens.

So they will be 3 BCH ?
Bitcoin Cobra, Bitcoin SV & Bitcoin Cash ?

*popcorns*

There is another one called Bitcoin Stash coming out too. https://bstash.org/ Not too many details at this time, though.


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August 31, 2018, 01:18:22 PM
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Good news , as i see bitcoin cash is integrated in bitpay for some merchant i ussually used every month. Also this is good for me because of low fee and 0$ fee in bitpay.
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August 31, 2018, 04:11:33 PM
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(edit: answered in a post below) ...

Thanks for the linkdump. I'd seen most, but not all of these.

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August 31, 2018, 04:13:29 PM
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What kinda coin is this?

I see you are new here. In answering your question, the best place to start is with: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

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August 31, 2018, 04:18:04 PM
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What kinda coin is this?

I see you are new here. In answering your question, the best place to start is with: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
An excellent resource. just to be clear the real bitcoin is BTC    not BCH . BCash(bch) is one of many fork's of bitcoin

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