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September 04, 2018, 01:41:05 PM
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CSW and bitmain aren't long term partners, but they cooperated long enough to stop core fucking Bitcoin forever more, so it was a good partnership while it lasted.

"Core" is "Bitcoin". NOBODY else in the entire cryptosphere calls it "core"! The entire world agrees upon this other than those who decided to invest in the altcoin bcash and potentially its spinoff, now they're protecting it with religious zealot fervor, even after weathering 80%+ losses.

As many rational minds have stated, if Bcash wanted the least bit of respect, they would change their name to something other with "Bitcoin" in it, and stop trying to win support through confusion and non-stop attacks on bitcoin.

You obviously move in other parts of the cryptosphere to me, I see neutral people referring to 'Bitcoin core' all the time, to distinguish it from 'Bitcoin cash'. Neutral people don't take sides, and the history of the split from my point of view is it's far too early to know what the eventual outcome will be, but btc and bch can both use the name 'bitcoin' because they share the same genesis block. Which version is closer to the original and therefore has the best claim to Bitcoin name is an opinion, not a fact, so for now both should use it, but add meaningful word after Bitcoin to help distinguish them. Only zealots on one side or other would disagree, probably to stifle honest discussion.

What would really help distinguish Bcash is if they removed the word "bitcoin" from their name. That sure would clear up a great deal of confusion. BTW, "neutral" people don't refer to it as "Bitcoin Core" either. It's pretty obvious that if BCH was indeed "the real bitcoin," it would have proven itself as such by now. Instead its just managed to sink in price in terms of BTC, and now its going to further fracture its user base. I'm quite honestly not invested in either one, I just think Bcash's approach to marketing itself has been extremely dishonest.


cashcoin sounds good to me .. oh wait there is already a cashcoin!  Shocked  lol

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September 04, 2018, 03:32:02 PM
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I see neutral people referring to 'Bitcoin core' bitcoin all the time, to distinguish it from 'Bitcoin cash' bcash.

Here I fixed it for you.

pretty sure the btc wallet has called itself "bitcoin core v0.whatever" a long time before bcash_lol came out.

so calling it "bitcoin core" is kinda a habit really at least when referring to the wallet.
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September 04, 2018, 03:58:24 PM
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I cant remember right now, I think it was Ver that said something about an issue at 22MB block.  I think we need to fix this & mine several 32MB stress tests blocks BEFORE we raise to 128MB.  Anyone wanting 128MB could easily make their own 32mb block and mine it to prove that we are ready for 128MB.

I would also like to hear from Jihan/Bitmain why they don't support big blocks?  I dont care if they said they wanted Big Blocks.  When it came time to prove it they barely mined 2MB.

The 128MB limit on SV is going to work a lot like BU's emergent consensus. A miner has an option to set both the maximum they are willing to mine and the maximum they are willing to accept without orphaning it. If the majority of the miners don't want 128MB blocks at this time, then what their hash votes, goes. This is unlike the ABC hardfork, which will basically force miners to order the transactions in the blocks canonically, or be orphaned off, even if the majority of miners don't want to order canonically at this time.

It has been proven since forever that Vers words make less sense than ur statement. He was trounced and does not follow crypto anymore. My suspicion about the issues with automatic expansion of block size over random intervals appeared to be justified only after the end of investigation that I and my underlings had to conduct on behalf of municipal authorities whose power was then vested in me.
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September 04, 2018, 05:34:17 PM
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CSW and bitmain aren't long term partners, but they cooperated long enough to stop core fucking Bitcoin forever more, so it was a good partnership while it lasted.

"Core" is "Bitcoin". NOBODY else in the entire cryptosphere calls it "core"! The entire world agrees upon this other than those who decided to invest in the altcoin bcash and potentially its spinoff, now they're protecting it with religious zealot fervor, even after weathering 80%+ losses.

As many rational minds have stated, if Bcash wanted the least bit of respect, they would change their name to something other with "Bitcoin" in it, and stop trying to win support through confusion and non-stop attacks on bitcoin.

You obviously move in other parts of the cryptosphere to me, I see neutral people referring to 'Bitcoin core' all the time, to distinguish it from 'Bitcoin cash'. Neutral people don't take sides, and the history of the split from my point of view is it's far too early to know what the eventual outcome will be, but btc and bch can both use the name 'bitcoin' because they share the same genesis block. Which version is closer to the original and therefore has the best claim to Bitcoin name is an opinion, not a fact, so for now both should use it, but add meaningful word after Bitcoin to help distinguish them. Only zealots on one side or other would disagree, probably to stifle honest discussion.

What would really help distinguish Bcash is if they removed the word "bitcoin" from their name. That sure would clear up a great deal of confusion. BTW, "neutral" people don't refer to it as "Bitcoin Core" either. It's pretty obvious that if BCH was indeed "the real bitcoin," it would have proven itself as such by now. Instead its just managed to sink in price in terms of BTC, and now its going to further fracture its user base. I'm quite honestly not invested in either one, I just think Bcash's approach to marketing itself has been extremely dishonest.

You are correct, my Grandma just says Bitcoin (no core or cash after)
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September 04, 2018, 05:40:07 PM
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Hope it will change Bitcoin Cash in a good way, good luck!
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September 04, 2018, 05:51:01 PM
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BitCoin has had the ability provably to do tokens since 2012/3  


ABC is adding parts needed for future wormhole cash upgrades that use Jihan Wu patents in conjunction with his his AI chips he sells using a method called incrementalism.  This method of slow, small incremental changes allows them to say today that it is not what they are doing while reserving the right to do it tomorrow LOL.


 ..the concept of smart contracts predates digital money.  Further data sig verify does not lend anything to an on chain smart contracts at all if one understands the elements to a smart contract fully.  DSV opens up the chain for a huge attack vector for little benefit that can be more durably achieved in many other ways for a far greater benefit..    

 Lead dev Amaury SECHET does not believe in the markets nor competition.  Read his blog. and yet he claims to work on BitCoin lol!  In reality Jihan found him after he was turned away by core devs after he tried to work for them.  Jihan then hired him to create ABC and fork btc.


the split last Aug 1st was the result of a trick that Jihan Wu of Bitmain played on CSW.  There would not have been any split if Jihan Wu did not backstab (gaslight) CSW.    CSW made the mistake of trusting Jihan with his plan to save BitCoin from segwit and small blocks 4eva.

Jihan Wu does not care about any one coin over the other (p2p cash) as he makes more money from more coins by selling asics. He is looking to secure a platform (coin) to launch his proprietary AI based token concept however.   Jihans wormhole would not work on 1MB blocks 4eva hence why he paid ABC to split the chain so he could grow his sacrificial coin to launch wormhole onto.  You have been warned.

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September 04, 2018, 07:03:31 PM
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BitCoin has had the ability provably to do tokens since 2012/3  


ABC is adding parts needed for future wormhole cash upgrades that use Jihan Wu patents in conjunction with his his AI chips he sells using a method called incrementalism.  This method of slow, small incremental changes allows them to say today that it is not what they are doing while reserving the right to do it tomorrow LOL.


 ..the concept of smart contracts predates digital money.  Further data sig verify does not lend anything to an on chain smart contracts at all if one understands the elements to a smart contract fully.  DSV opens up the chain for a huge attack vector for little benefit that can be more durably achieved in many other ways for a far greater benefit..    

 Lead dev Amaury SECHET does not believe in the markets nor competition.  Read his blog. and yet he claims to work on BitCoin lol!  In reality Jihan found him after he was turned away by core devs after he tried to work for them.  Jihan then hired him to create ABC and fork btc.


the split last Aug 1st was the result of a trick that Jihan Wu of Bitmain played on CSW.  There would not have been any split if Jihan Wu did not backstab (gaslight) CSW.    CSW made the mistake of trusting Jihan with his plan to save BitCoin from segwit and small blocks 4eva.

Jihan Wu does not care about any one coin over the other (p2p cash) as he makes more money from more coins by selling asics. He is looking to secure a platform (coin) to launch his proprietary AI based token concept however.   Jihans wormhole would not work on 1MB blocks 4eva hence why he paid ABC to split the chain so he could grow his sacrificial coin to launch wormhole onto.  You have been warned.

 Amaury is trusted dev Wink weeee

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September 04, 2018, 09:36:56 PM
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Cash will be king again.

Stay liquid for live sake.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/09/04/jpmorgan-says-next-crisis-will-feature-flash-crashes-and-social-unrest.html

Dont trust anyone also not devs.


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September 05, 2018, 01:36:08 AM
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Excellent video m8, thank you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9czzk6/a_bitcoin_cash_chain_split_is_inevitable_aka_my/

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September 05, 2018, 02:04:58 AM
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Bitcoin SV FTW

Bitcoin is capitalism, a free market by which anyone can compete for majority hashpower. This is how Bitcoin eliminates centralization.

The miners are doing the work and should be incentived for running the network. I do not see this narrative in the case of the Lightning Network or even Wormhole as ‘layer 2’ or ‘layer 0’ protocols.

Bitcoin SV FTW

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September 05, 2018, 02:51:49 AM
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After breaking through the rally a few days ago, the price of BCH has not been much lower now, there is a horizontal. If you don't fall sideways, you'll be stronger. Make a profit withdrawal point. The profit withdrawal point is set at $575.
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September 05, 2018, 06:02:15 AM
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Why are you sleeping?  Shocked Bitcoin cash have been listed on 1st. South African exchange-ArtisTurba Cool

They will start to running on 17th. september!  Wink

Sample screenshot for upcoming exchange:



ARTIS Affiliate Rewards Program (AARP). AARP allows ARTIS holders to receive 50% of the revenue generated on the Artis Turba Trading Platform, It is similar to KuCoin Shares or Binance's 50% discount on trading fees if you own BNB.



Stay tuned   Wink

Join into telegram for more info:)

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September 05, 2018, 12:29:43 PM
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It seems very much that the whole market began again with a new force fall. And with him and Bch. Now probably need much lower to catch the bottom.
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September 05, 2018, 01:47:04 PM
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ABC is Bcash !!  Cheesy  are you new here?

Facepalm.

BitcoinABC is but one of many clients for accessing the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.

Are you new here? Huh

Anyone with a campaign ad in their signature -- for an organization with which they are not otherwise affiliated -- is automatically deducted credibility points.

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September 05, 2018, 01:52:23 PM
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ABC is Bcash !!  Cheesy  are you new here?

Facepalm.

BitcoinABC is but one of many clients for accessing the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.

its the main one right? Smiley lol  ===>

Amaurys' Bitcoin Cash

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September 06, 2018, 01:24:57 AM
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It seems clear Dave was an important part of this. From the available documents and my personal interpretation of them - it would seem Craig might have been the visionary. That’s not to say anyone in the core Satoshi Group was not of equal importance in the development of this wonderful economical system.
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September 06, 2018, 02:08:06 AM
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Have a look at memo pay

https://memo.cash/profile/1DkKSF2yJVkVj1BhoKFnxHQcSm9t1tJQjm

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September 06, 2018, 02:31:44 AM
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Let those guys make another altcoin and to be honest it is good for many who holds Bitcoin to get free of those coins. It may cause of decline of value for real Bitcoin for temporary period but good recovery on the other side. It isn't bad to receive when it is totally free.
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September 06, 2018, 08:51:04 AM
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In an alternative reality we asked Sensei 聡

- What is it that moves?

- Which BCH path should we follow?

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"Two monks were arguing about a flag blowing in the wind.

One said: 'The flag is moving.'

The other said: 'The wind is moving.'

Master 中本 told them: 'Not the wind, not

the flag; mind is moving.'

In that instant both monks became enlightened."

- Zen Story


...

A passing Tourist thought; 'only mouth is moving.'

In that instance the entire universe imploded. - SWIM

...

Cool story bro!   Cool

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September 06, 2018, 09:06:33 AM
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when flip?

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