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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees  (Read 638761 times)
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September 02, 2018, 07:12:30 PM
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Now that BCH stress test is over, it would great if there's info/log such as bandwidth, block propagation time, TX/block verification time and memory usage from multiple source/nodes which have internet/device condition Roll Eyes

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September 02, 2018, 09:30:27 PM
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I would suggest that any of my crypto family hodl ing ONLY BTC diversify a little into BCH.  Only 8.5% of portfolio would protect your net IF, IF there is a flipp a ning. 

Price and Hash can move overnight.

Adoption can happen very fast too. (Aka end of 2017)

With BCH demonstrating their scale ability, there is no stopping adoption of BCH

Even the confirmation from Lightning group this weekend they said Lightning alone can NOT handle the scale.

It looks like BCH can be Cash AND Store of value.  BTC, only a store of value.

Those are reasons I diversify.  (And I speculate CSW is just creating fork FUD to create buying opportunity)
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September 02, 2018, 09:36:26 PM
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Well 8.85% now
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September 03, 2018, 04:52:21 AM
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Sept..... is going to be rough for all crypto.

Many people will suffer from...Fongo

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September 03, 2018, 07:30:32 AM
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Sept..... is going to be rough for all crypto.

Many people will suffer from...Fongo

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Bitcoiners work for and earn the luck.

We mine it.

In a pool we share.
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September 03, 2018, 07:52:47 AM
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23Tx/s for a +20Mb block ? That's ridiculous.
I can understand they don't speak so much about this.

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September 03, 2018, 11:52:41 AM
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About privacy


https://medium.com/@craig_10243/the-crypto-ring-of-gyges-f4858a037827

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September 03, 2018, 02:16:09 PM
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OK , i have been looking into all the recent split/fork talk.
I have tried to look at what both sides are trying to do/say.

IMO, we need to slow down. I dont want to see a split/fork.
More testing before making major changes like CTOR. (and def no algo changes or switch to any form of pos)
No need for 128mb blocks yet either.
I'd say, wait till mid 2019 sometime after all BCH dev teams and other devs have TESTED and the community+miners know what the new tech is for.

We dont need smart contratcs like ETH ..
We must all focus on making a true P2P digital cash system and keep it simple and robust then see what we can build around it.

While the devs are doing their thing...the rest of us must focus on building an economy around BCH.

Lots of hard work for all ahead for all if we want BCH to be p2p digital cash.

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September 03, 2018, 03:27:31 PM
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I cant remember right now, I think it was Ver that said something about an issue at 22MB block.  I think we need to fix this & mine several 32MB stress tests blocks BEFORE we raise to 128MB.  Anyone wanting 128MB could easily make their own 32mb block and mine it to prove that we are ready for 128MB.

I would also like to hear from Jihan/Bitmain why they don't support big blocks?  I dont care if they said they wanted Big Blocks.  When it came time to prove it they barely mined 2MB.
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September 03, 2018, 04:01:57 PM
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I cant remember right now, I think it was Ver that said something about an issue at 22MB block.  I think we need to fix this & mine several 32MB stress tests blocks BEFORE we raise to 128MB.  Anyone wanting 128MB could easily make their own 32mb block and mine it to prove that we are ready for 128MB.

I would also like to hear from Jihan/Bitmain why they don't support big blocks?  I dont care if they said they wanted Big Blocks.  When it came time to prove it they barely mined 2MB.

The 128MB limit on SV is going to work a lot like BU's emergent consensus. A miner has an option to set both the maximum they are willing to mine and the maximum they are willing to accept without orphaning it. If the majority of the miners don't want 128MB blocks at this time, then what their hash votes, goes. This is unlike the ABC hardfork, which will basically force miners to order the transactions in the blocks canonically, or be orphaned off, even if the majority of miners don't want to order canonically at this time.

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Yep. 128mb is good that its getting prepared. But true not yet needed but does not do much harm since the last stress test shows there are good enough physical limits still.

CTOR is a 'feature' nobody asked for and all such features that need too much 'force" to get in is no feature - pretty much as SW or LN.

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September 03, 2018, 06:18:37 PM
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ABC is forcing the fork with their versioning item they added.  So if you are running ABC now then it will not work when the newer version comes out causing people to need to upgrade to the new software with ctor and all the other untested features no one asked for.

     I think ABC has proven themselves to not be professional software devs with this behaviours


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September 03, 2018, 07:01:39 PM
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Introducing new middle men .... not Bitcoin

https://twitter.com/VecchioAsh/status/1036620385511514113

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September 03, 2018, 11:59:10 PM
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ABC is forcing the fork with their versioning item they added.  So if you are running ABC now then it will not work when the newer version comes out causing people to need to upgrade to the new software with ctor and all the other untested features no one asked for.

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September 04, 2018, 02:12:45 AM
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The Bitcoin Cash team is technically strong, and the team should step up its marketing campaign to get more investors involved in building the BCH ecosystem.
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September 04, 2018, 04:04:29 AM
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So bch splits, one fork becomes bitcoin core killer with cheap scaling for digital cash, the other ethereum killer with tokens .... what's not to like about this divorce?

Some relationships need to end, by Christmas the combined MK of bch progeny could easily surpass 10% of Bitcoin core, this split is needed, the enemy of my enemy is my friend is no basis for an on going partnership, no more than USSR and USA, once the Nazi were defeated they go there separate way, but to defeat the Nazi they were rational to cooperate.

CSW and bitmain aren't long term partners, but they cooperated long enough to stop core fucking Bitcoin forever more, so it was a good partnership while it lasted. Time to part ways and let bch holders get both visions, just be sensible and use replay protection.
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September 04, 2018, 04:59:33 AM
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CSW and bitmain aren't long term partners, but they cooperated long enough to stop core fucking Bitcoin forever more, so it was a good partnership while it lasted.

"Core" is "Bitcoin". NOBODY else in the entire cryptosphere calls it "core"! The entire world agrees upon this other than those who decided to invest in the altcoin bcash and potentially its spinoff, now they're protecting it with religious zealot fervor, even after weathering 80%+ losses.

As many rational minds have stated, if Bcash wanted the least bit of respect, they would change their name to something other with "Bitcoin" in it, and stop trying to win support through confusion and non-stop attacks on bitcoin.

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September 04, 2018, 06:20:00 AM
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CSW and bitmain aren't long term partners, but they cooperated long enough to stop core fucking Bitcoin forever more, so it was a good partnership while it lasted.

"Core" is "Bitcoin". NOBODY else in the entire cryptosphere calls it "core"! The entire world agrees upon this other than those who decided to invest in the altcoin bcash and potentially its spinoff, now they're protecting it with religious zealot fervor, even after weathering 80%+ losses.

As many rational minds have stated, if Bcash wanted the least bit of respect, they would change their name to something other with "Bitcoin" in it, and stop trying to win support through confusion and non-stop attacks on bitcoin.

You obviously move in other parts of the cryptosphere to me, I see neutral people referring to 'Bitcoin core' all the time, to distinguish it from 'Bitcoin cash'. Neutral people don't take sides, and the history of the split from my point of view is it's far too early to know what the eventual outcome will be, but btc and bch can both use the name 'bitcoin' because they share the same genesis block. Which version is closer to the original and therefore has the best claim to Bitcoin name is an opinion, not a fact, so for now both should use it, but add meaningful word after Bitcoin to help distinguish them. Only zealots on one side or other would disagree, probably to stifle honest discussion.
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September 04, 2018, 06:44:16 AM
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CSW and bitmain aren't long term partners, but they cooperated long enough to stop core fucking Bitcoin forever more, so it was a good partnership while it lasted.

"Core" is "Bitcoin". NOBODY else in the entire cryptosphere calls it "core"! The entire world agrees upon this other than those who decided to invest in the altcoin bcash and potentially its spinoff, now they're protecting it with religious zealot fervor, even after weathering 80%+ losses.

As many rational minds have stated, if Bcash wanted the least bit of respect, they would change their name to something other with "Bitcoin" in it, and stop trying to win support through confusion and non-stop attacks on bitcoin.

You obviously move in other parts of the cryptosphere to me, I see neutral people referring to 'Bitcoin core' all the time, to distinguish it from 'Bitcoin cash'. Neutral people don't take sides, and the history of the split from my point of view is it's far too early to know what the eventual outcome will be, but btc and bch can both use the name 'bitcoin' because they share the same genesis block. Which version is closer to the original and therefore has the best claim to Bitcoin name is an opinion, not a fact, so for now both should use it, but add meaningful word after Bitcoin to help distinguish them. Only zealots on one side or other would disagree, probably to stifle honest discussion.

What would really help distinguish Bcash is if they removed the word "bitcoin" from their name. That sure would clear up a great deal of confusion. BTW, "neutral" people don't refer to it as "Bitcoin Core" either. It's pretty obvious that if BCH was indeed "the real bitcoin," it would have proven itself as such by now. Instead its just managed to sink in price in terms of BTC, and now its going to further fracture its user base. I'm quite honestly not invested in either one, I just think Bcash's approach to marketing itself has been extremely dishonest.

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September 04, 2018, 06:47:50 AM
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I think come 15th, many will be joining BU.

I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 ,nullius and lauda are scammers.Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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