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August 31, 2018, 01:18:22 PM
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Good news , as i see bitcoin cash is integrated in bitpay for some merchant i ussually used every month. Also this is good for me because of low fee and 0$ fee in bitpay.

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August 31, 2018, 04:11:33 PM
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(edit: answered in a post below) ...

Thanks for the linkdump. I'd seen most, but not all of these.

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August 31, 2018, 04:13:29 PM
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What kinda coin is this?

I see you are new here. In answering your question, the best place to start is with: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

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August 31, 2018, 04:18:04 PM
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What kinda coin is this?

I see you are new here. In answering your question, the best place to start is with: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
An excellent resource. just to be clear the real bitcoin is BTC    not BCH . BCash(bch) is one of many fork's of bitcoin

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So they will be 3 BCH ?
Bitcoin Cobra, Bitcoin SV & Bitcoin Cash ?

And Bitcoin Unlimited's approach, which will implement whichever features of the above that accrue mining majority. At least, if I am still up to speed in this fast-moving area.

*such excitement!*

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August 31, 2018, 04:45:40 PM
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What kinda coin is this?

I see you are new here. In answering your question, the best place to start is with: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
An excellent resource. just to be clear the real bitcoin is BTC    not BCH .

ATM, I guess. The future? Perhaps not.

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August 31, 2018, 04:49:09 PM
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Sometimes I think that Bitcoin Cash does not reflect potential.It may be seen as the cause of copy.
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August 31, 2018, 05:34:25 PM
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https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles/status/1035322235983159296?s=21

In all fairness, anyone with a background in common law will understand that no one wants to be take ownership of being Satoshi Nakamoto.


Indeed.

However, one cannot simply continue to pretend to be someone or something, especially when that very thing allows you to prove otherwise.

This is about cryptography. Financial cryptography at that. Sign and Verify.

I decided I should do this myself recently, it was really hard for me to do, not in practice (that's the really easy bit), but emotionally difficult.

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for blockchain research etc.,
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066.0

Ask yourselves - Why can't CSW login to this forum as Satoshi Nakamoto or just simply sign and verify somewhere? If a three letter agency has his keys or he requires a multi-party signing to do this then he needs to explain this. This is not a joke.

Like me, Craig was clearly around during Bitcoin's inception (even earlier on than myself and many others on this forum) - However, I have no knowledge of him mining. I do know that Dave Kleiman was mining.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.msg42180805#msg42180805

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August 31, 2018, 06:56:36 PM
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https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles/status/1035322235983159296?s=21

In all fairness, anyone with a background in common law will understand that no one wants to be take ownership of being Satoshi Nakamoto.


Indeed.

However, one cannot simply continue to pretend to be someone or something, especially when that very thing allows you to prove otherwise.

This is about cryptography. Financial cryptography at that. Sign and Verify.

I decided I should do this myself recently, it was really hard for me to do, not in practice (that's the really easy bit), but emotionally difficult.

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for blockchain research etc.,
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066.0

Ask yourselves - Why can't CSW login to this forum as Satoshi Nakamoto or just simply sign and verify somewhere? If a three letter agency has his keys or he requires a multi-party signing to do this then he needs to explain this. This is not a joke.

Like me, Craig was clearly around during Bitcoin's inception (even earlier on than myself and many others on this forum) - However, I have no knowledge of him mining. I do know that Dave Kleiman was mining.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.msg42180805#msg42180805


If he is Satoshi, it would be best for BTC and BCH that he not verify. That would give him undue influence on how things turn out. Bitcoin is supposed to be based on Nakamoto consensus, which is basically proof of work. Nakamoto consensus should not be proof of who is Satoshi Nakamoto.
Also, Theymos locked the satoshi account. Theymos would need undeniable proof to allow anyone to sign in. This is good, since Bitcointalk was hacked back in 2015, and I believe the e-mails and passwords were compromised along with much more personal data.
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August 31, 2018, 08:06:13 PM
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https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles/status/1035322235983159296?s=21

In all fairness, anyone with a background in common law will understand that no one wants to be take ownership of being Satoshi Nakamoto.


Indeed.

However, one cannot simply continue to pretend to be someone or something, especially when that very thing allows you to prove otherwise.

This is about cryptography. Financial cryptography at that. Sign and Verify.

I decided I should do this myself recently, it was really hard for me to do, not in practice (that's the really easy bit), but emotionally difficult.

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for blockchain research etc.,
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066.0

Ask yourselves - Why can't CSW login to this forum as Satoshi Nakamoto or just simply sign and verify somewhere? If a three letter agency has his keys or he requires a multi-party signing to do this then he needs to explain this. This is not a joke.

Like me, Craig was clearly around during Bitcoin's inception (even earlier on than myself and many others on this forum) - However, I have no knowledge of him mining. I do know that Dave Kleiman was mining.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.msg42180805#msg42180805


If he is Satoshi, it would be best for BTC and BCH that he not verify. That would give him undue influence on how things turn out. Bitcoin is supposed to be based on Nakamoto consensus, which is basically proof of work. Nakamoto consensus should not be proof of who is Satoshi Nakamoto.
Also, Theymos locked the satoshi account. Theymos would need undeniable proof to allow anyone to sign in. This is good, since Bitcointalk was hacked back in 2015, and I believe the e-mails and passwords were compromised along with much more personal data.

No. It would be best for him and for BTC and BCH that he does now verify. I have clearly explained why that is so.

He has cited himself to be Satoshi - yet has provided no hard verifiable proof - to date.

I'm well aware of the safe guards placed on Satoshi's account by this forum.

I do hope you realize that I've been here for sometime ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg188#msg188

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August 31, 2018, 08:46:28 PM
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No. It would be best for him and for BTC and BCH that he does now verify. I have clearly explained why that is so.

He has cited himself to be Satoshi - yet has provided no hard verifiable proof - to date.

I'm well aware of the safe guards placed on Satoshi's account by this forum.

I do hope you realize that I've been here for sometime ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg188#msg188

I agree that it would be best for him. However, it would then put him in an exalted position, like Vitalik Buterin. I really don't think BCH or BTC needs that. I prefer not knowing exactly who satoshi was. Also, if proof is ever provided, I hope it doesn't come in the form of a rage quit and dumping on our heads.
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No. It would be best for him and for BTC and BCH that he does now verify. I have clearly explained why that is so.

He has cited himself to be Satoshi - yet has provided no hard verifiable proof - to date.

I'm well aware of the safe guards placed on Satoshi's account by this forum.

I do hope you realize that I've been here for sometime ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg188#msg188

I agree that it would be best for him. However, it would then put him in an exalted position, like Vitalik Buterin. I really don't think BCH or BTC needs that. I prefer not knowing exactly who satoshi was. Also, if proof is ever provided, I hope it doesn't come in the form of a rage quit and dumping on our heads.

He is NOT Satoshi.

If Craig Wright is Satoshi why did he disappear to come back?

Its totally illogical. First he gives up the project and repository and then he comes back and wants to start a hash war?

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August 31, 2018, 09:11:46 PM
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No. It would be best for him and for BTC and BCH that he does now verify. I have clearly explained why that is so.

He has cited himself to be Satoshi - yet has provided no hard verifiable proof - to date.

I'm well aware of the safe guards placed on Satoshi's account by this forum.

I do hope you realize that I've been here for sometime ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg188#msg188

I agree that it would be best for him. However, it would then put him in an exalted position, like Vitalik Buterin. I really don't think BCH or BTC needs that. I prefer not knowing exactly who satoshi was. Also, if proof is ever provided, I hope it doesn't come in the form of a rage quit and dumping on our heads.

Good. Realize that he has already put himself into this exalted position (Satoshi or not), by actually claiming to be Satoshi.

I to believe that Satoshi group is/was best preserved by myth and legend alone. This was Mythopoeia.

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythopoeia

I don't imagine the real Satoshi would 'rage quit' in this regard. With a high probability the main drivers of original Bitcoin (BTC) are now unfortunately no longer with us (deceased).  Cry

Read the thoughts of some cypherpunks, these are the peers that Satoshi originally announced Bitcoin to.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk
- https://moxie.org/stories/money-machine/  <<<< really good read this one!

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I don't imagine the real Satoshi would 'rage quit' in this regard. With a high probability the main drivers of Bitcoin (BTC) are now unfortunately no longer with us (deceased).  Cry

Read the thoughts of some cypherpunks, these are the peers that Satoshi originally announced Bitcoin to.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk
- https://moxie.org/stories/money-machine/  <<<< really good read this one!

Peace.  Cool

he is still alive. LL@Microsoft

Therefore the first software was developed in Windows.

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No. It would be best for him and for BTC and BCH that he does now verify. I have clearly explained why that is so.

He has cited himself to be Satoshi - yet has provided no hard verifiable proof - to date.

I'm well aware of the safe guards placed on Satoshi's account by this forum.

I do hope you realize that I've been here for sometime ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg188#msg188

I agree that it would be best for him. However, it would then put him in an exalted position, like Vitalik Buterin. I really don't think BCH or BTC needs that. I prefer not knowing exactly who satoshi was. Also, if proof is ever provided, I hope it doesn't come in the form of a rage quit and dumping on our heads.

He is NOT Satoshi.

If Craig Wright is Satoshi why did he disappear to come back?

Its totally illogical. First he gives up the project and repository and then he comes back and wants to start a hash war?

I must concur that I actually believe he is most probably not Satoshi. However, the above quote from reddit does not really prove that he is not Satoshi by contradiction. Human beings are not necessarily beings who are consistent in their behavior their entire life. It's not uncommon to hear someone say in the news, "that was so unlike him."
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No. It would be best for him and for BTC and BCH that he does now verify. I have clearly explained why that is so.

He has cited himself to be Satoshi - yet has provided no hard verifiable proof - to date.

I'm well aware of the safe guards placed on Satoshi's account by this forum.

I do hope you realize that I've been here for sometime ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg188#msg188

I agree that it would be best for him. However, it would then put him in an exalted position, like Vitalik Buterin. I really don't think BCH or BTC needs that. I prefer not knowing exactly who satoshi was. Also, if proof is ever provided, I hope it doesn't come in the form of a rage quit and dumping on our heads.

He is NOT Satoshi.

If Craig Wright is Satoshi why did he disappear to come back?

Its totally illogical. First he gives up the project and repository and then he comes back and wants to start a hash war?

I must concur that I actually believe he is most probably not Satoshi. However, the above quote from reddit does not really prove that he is not Satoshi by contradiction. Human beings are not necessarily beings who are consistent in their behavior their entire life. It's not uncommon to hear someone say in the news, "that was so unlike him."

ok, try to convince you with the next consideration:

Satoshi left and was so mental strong to leave his baby in the arms of others.

CSW is so mental weak he can't step back to put Bitcoin Cash (which he claims is the original Bitcoin version) in the save zone again to avoid a HF.

conclusion: different persons with different personalities

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August 31, 2018, 09:41:38 PM
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What kinda coin is this?

I see you are new here. In answering your question, the best place to start is with: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
An excellent resource. just to be clear the real bitcoin is BTC    not BCH .

ATM, I guess. The future? Perhaps not.
thats right . who knows what the future holds. but for now BTC is Bitcoin and for good reason.
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ok, try to convince you with the next consideration:

Satoshi left and was so mental strong to leave his baby in the arms of others.

CSW is so mental weak he can't step back to put Bitcoin Cash (which he claims is the original Bitcoin version) in the save zone again to avoid a HF.

conclusion: different persons with different personalities



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Also, Theymos locked the satoshi account. Theymos would need undeniable proof to allow anyone to sign in. This is good, since Bitcointalk was hacked back in 2015, and I believe the e-mails and passwords were compromised along with much more personal data.

I don't really see how having an anointed gatekeeper for thought leadership on who may or may not be satoshi is goodness. Be it Theymos or anyone else.

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ok, try to convince you with the next consideration:

Satoshi left and was so mental strong to leave his baby in the arms of others.

CSW is so mental weak he can't step back to put Bitcoin Cash (which he claims is the original Bitcoin version) in the save zone again to avoid a HF.

conclusion: different persons with different personalities

I don't have a dog in this hunt. I'm not even sure the outcome means anything.

I must admit some puzzlement, however, as to what you mean by "put Bitcoin Cash in the save zone". Care to elucidate?

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