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August 31, 2018, 10:14:10 AM
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Recent nChain announcements (in this regard):

- https://www.ccn.com/satoshis-vision-craig-wright-to-launch-bch-node-to-restore-original-bitcoin-protocol/

This looks both potentially very dangerous and totally unnecessary to me, unless I'm missing how they might look to lock it down (which I'm probably not).

These opcodes: OP_MUL, OP_LSHIFT, OP_RSHIFT, and OP_INVERT + 128MB blocks (for what? mega DDoS?)

- https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Common_Vulnerabilities_and_Exposures

These opcodes were disabled in the Bitcoin code base long-ago, because they have know and very practical attack vectors.

Perhaps if they were to implement them, then someone might be kind enough to demonstrate it!

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P.S. I'm not asserting that anyone is a 'scammer', although some of this stuff is outright 'crazy'.   Grin

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August 31, 2018, 10:16:55 AM
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All-Star Panel: Ed Moy, Joseph VaughnPerling, Trace Mayer, Nick Szabo, Dr. Craig Wright
- https://youtu.be/LdvQTwjVmrE

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They have gone "Full Billionaire Mode" ...

Were going "Full Mr. Robot Mode" ... - SWIM


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No Pizza, fancy haircuts ...
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August 31, 2018, 10:37:01 AM
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when will it be listed on the exchanges? And what exchanges is the project intended to be listed?Tell me, please, such question, whether dividends will be added to holders of tokens of the given project?
you have an avarage IQ of the average BCASH supporter lol

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August 31, 2018, 12:59:07 PM
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https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles/status/1035322235983159296?s=21

In all fairness, anyone with a background in common law will understand that no one wants to be take ownership of being Satoshi Nakamoto.

Worried about my trust rating? I am too. Bitcointalk users ‘Lauda’ and ‘gmaxwell’ have abused their superior powers in trust system to align their views with the ‘correct views.’ In no legal system in any jurisdiction do we have a definition for what Bitcoin is, they do not have the power to tell us what it is based on the rule of law.
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August 31, 2018, 01:03:49 PM
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I am therefore announcing Cobra Client, a safe and reliable implementation of the scheduled November hard fork. The hard fork implemented by Cobra Client will make no consensus changes or add any new features as it’s clear there is not enough consensus on issues around the new OP CODES and Canonical Transaction Ordering. Instead, Cobra Client will implement replay protection to prevent Bitcoin Cash transactions being replayed across alternative chains. This means users will be unaffected by the forked chains and drama of Bitcoin Cash ABC (BCA) and Bitcoin Cash nChain/Coingeek (BCN) chains and respective tokens.

So they will be 3 BCH ?
Bitcoin Cobra, Bitcoin SV & Bitcoin Cash ?

*popcorns*

There is another one called Bitcoin Stash coming out too. https://bstash.org/ Not too many details at this time, though.

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August 31, 2018, 01:18:22 PM
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Good news , as i see bitcoin cash is integrated in bitpay for some merchant i ussually used every month. Also this is good for me because of low fee and 0$ fee in bitpay.

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August 31, 2018, 04:11:33 PM
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(edit: answered in a post below) ...

Thanks for the linkdump. I'd seen most, but not all of these.

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August 31, 2018, 04:13:29 PM
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What kinda coin is this?

I see you are new here. In answering your question, the best place to start is with: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

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August 31, 2018, 04:18:04 PM
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What kinda coin is this?

I see you are new here. In answering your question, the best place to start is with: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
An excellent resource. just to be clear the real bitcoin is BTC    not BCH . BCash(bch) is one of many fork's of bitcoin

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So they will be 3 BCH ?
Bitcoin Cobra, Bitcoin SV & Bitcoin Cash ?

And Bitcoin Unlimited's approach, which will implement whichever features of the above that accrue mining majority. At least, if I am still up to speed in this fast-moving area.

*such excitement!*

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August 31, 2018, 04:45:40 PM
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What kinda coin is this?

I see you are new here. In answering your question, the best place to start is with: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
An excellent resource. just to be clear the real bitcoin is BTC    not BCH .

ATM, I guess. The future? Perhaps not.

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August 31, 2018, 04:49:09 PM
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Sometimes I think that Bitcoin Cash does not reflect potential.It may be seen as the cause of copy.
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https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles/status/1035322235983159296?s=21

In all fairness, anyone with a background in common law will understand that no one wants to be take ownership of being Satoshi Nakamoto.


Indeed.

However, one cannot simply continue to pretend to be someone or something, especially when that very thing allows you to prove otherwise.

This is about cryptography. Financial cryptography at that. Sign and Verify.

I decided I should do this myself recently, it was really hard for me to do, not in practice (that's the really easy bit), but emotionally difficult.

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for blockchain research etc.,
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066.0

Ask yourselves - Why can't CSW login to this forum as Satoshi Nakamoto or just simply sign and verify somewhere? If a three letter agency has his keys or he requires a multi-party signing to do this then he needs to explain this. This is not a joke.

Like me, Craig was clearly around during Bitcoin's inception (even earlier on than myself and many others on this forum) - However, I have no knowledge of him mining. I do know that Dave Kleiman was mining.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.msg42180805#msg42180805

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August 31, 2018, 06:56:36 PM
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https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles/status/1035322235983159296?s=21

In all fairness, anyone with a background in common law will understand that no one wants to be take ownership of being Satoshi Nakamoto.


Indeed.

However, one cannot simply continue to pretend to be someone or something, especially when that very thing allows you to prove otherwise.

This is about cryptography. Financial cryptography at that. Sign and Verify.

I decided I should do this myself recently, it was really hard for me to do, not in practice (that's the really easy bit), but emotionally difficult.

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for blockchain research etc.,
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066.0

Ask yourselves - Why can't CSW login to this forum as Satoshi Nakamoto or just simply sign and verify somewhere? If a three letter agency has his keys or he requires a multi-party signing to do this then he needs to explain this. This is not a joke.

Like me, Craig was clearly around during Bitcoin's inception (even earlier on than myself and many others on this forum) - However, I have no knowledge of him mining. I do know that Dave Kleiman was mining.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.msg42180805#msg42180805


If he is Satoshi, it would be best for BTC and BCH that he not verify. That would give him undue influence on how things turn out. Bitcoin is supposed to be based on Nakamoto consensus, which is basically proof of work. Nakamoto consensus should not be proof of who is Satoshi Nakamoto.
Also, Theymos locked the satoshi account. Theymos would need undeniable proof to allow anyone to sign in. This is good, since Bitcointalk was hacked back in 2015, and I believe the e-mails and passwords were compromised along with much more personal data.
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August 31, 2018, 08:06:13 PM
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https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles/status/1035322235983159296?s=21

In all fairness, anyone with a background in common law will understand that no one wants to be take ownership of being Satoshi Nakamoto.


Indeed.

However, one cannot simply continue to pretend to be someone or something, especially when that very thing allows you to prove otherwise.

This is about cryptography. Financial cryptography at that. Sign and Verify.

I decided I should do this myself recently, it was really hard for me to do, not in practice (that's the really easy bit), but emotionally difficult.

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for blockchain research etc.,
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066.0

Ask yourselves - Why can't CSW login to this forum as Satoshi Nakamoto or just simply sign and verify somewhere? If a three letter agency has his keys or he requires a multi-party signing to do this then he needs to explain this. This is not a joke.

Like me, Craig was clearly around during Bitcoin's inception (even earlier on than myself and many others on this forum) - However, I have no knowledge of him mining. I do know that Dave Kleiman was mining.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.msg42180805#msg42180805


If he is Satoshi, it would be best for BTC and BCH that he not verify. That would give him undue influence on how things turn out. Bitcoin is supposed to be based on Nakamoto consensus, which is basically proof of work. Nakamoto consensus should not be proof of who is Satoshi Nakamoto.
Also, Theymos locked the satoshi account. Theymos would need undeniable proof to allow anyone to sign in. This is good, since Bitcointalk was hacked back in 2015, and I believe the e-mails and passwords were compromised along with much more personal data.

No. It would be best for him and for BTC and BCH that he does now verify. I have clearly explained why that is so.

He has cited himself to be Satoshi - yet has provided no hard verifiable proof - to date.

I'm well aware of the safe guards placed on Satoshi's account by this forum.

I do hope you realize that I've been here for sometime ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg188#msg188

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No. It would be best for him and for BTC and BCH that he does now verify. I have clearly explained why that is so.

He has cited himself to be Satoshi - yet has provided no hard verifiable proof - to date.

I'm well aware of the safe guards placed on Satoshi's account by this forum.

I do hope you realize that I've been here for sometime ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg188#msg188

I agree that it would be best for him. However, it would then put him in an exalted position, like Vitalik Buterin. I really don't think BCH or BTC needs that. I prefer not knowing exactly who satoshi was. Also, if proof is ever provided, I hope it doesn't come in the form of a rage quit and dumping on our heads.
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No. It would be best for him and for BTC and BCH that he does now verify. I have clearly explained why that is so.

He has cited himself to be Satoshi - yet has provided no hard verifiable proof - to date.

I'm well aware of the safe guards placed on Satoshi's account by this forum.

I do hope you realize that I've been here for sometime ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg188#msg188

I agree that it would be best for him. However, it would then put him in an exalted position, like Vitalik Buterin. I really don't think BCH or BTC needs that. I prefer not knowing exactly who satoshi was. Also, if proof is ever provided, I hope it doesn't come in the form of a rage quit and dumping on our heads.

He is NOT Satoshi.

If Craig Wright is Satoshi why did he disappear to come back?

Its totally illogical. First he gives up the project and repository and then he comes back and wants to start a hash war?

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No. It would be best for him and for BTC and BCH that he does now verify. I have clearly explained why that is so.

He has cited himself to be Satoshi - yet has provided no hard verifiable proof - to date.

I'm well aware of the safe guards placed on Satoshi's account by this forum.

I do hope you realize that I've been here for sometime ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg188#msg188

I agree that it would be best for him. However, it would then put him in an exalted position, like Vitalik Buterin. I really don't think BCH or BTC needs that. I prefer not knowing exactly who satoshi was. Also, if proof is ever provided, I hope it doesn't come in the form of a rage quit and dumping on our heads.

Good. Realize that he has already put himself into this exalted position (Satoshi or not), by actually claiming to be Satoshi.

I to believe that Satoshi group is/was best preserved by myth and legend alone. This was Mythopoeia.

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythopoeia

I don't imagine the real Satoshi would 'rage quit' in this regard. With a high probability the main drivers of original Bitcoin (BTC) are now unfortunately no longer with us (deceased).  Cry

Read the thoughts of some cypherpunks, these are the peers that Satoshi originally announced Bitcoin to.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk
- https://moxie.org/stories/money-machine/  <<<< really good read this one!

Peace.  Cool

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I don't imagine the real Satoshi would 'rage quit' in this regard. With a high probability the main drivers of Bitcoin (BTC) are now unfortunately no longer with us (deceased).  Cry

Read the thoughts of some cypherpunks, these are the peers that Satoshi originally announced Bitcoin to.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk
- https://moxie.org/stories/money-machine/  <<<< really good read this one!

Peace.  Cool

he is still alive. LL@Microsoft

Therefore the first software was developed in Windows.

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