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December 04, 2017, 11:18:10 PM |
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I still believe the kernel log is an ok place for the dev fee info, but I will make an option for it later. Out of curiosity, why do you feel this way? I find it annoying that any dev would want to suppress transparency when it comes to 'this is what it will cost you to run my software'. Every person here is most concerned with profit/cost, which is why we use your software. I just don't understand what an honorable reason could be for not putting cost front and center. If the software is worth it, people will pay. That's not a bad thing. I'll still be your customer, and a happier one at that.
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D3 Antminer
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December 04, 2017, 11:38:59 PM |
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this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,
it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.
also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.
If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.
seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly
the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.
do not confuse the minds please.
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tsojin
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December 05, 2017, 12:07:41 AM |
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this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,
it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.
also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.
If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.
seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly
the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.
do not confuse the minds please.
Its not hidden you can see it in the kernal log, its also on the top level post. If you don't think the dev is worth it for 'just a mod' of the firmware, then don't pay it just use bitmain stock firmware, no is forcing you to use it. Honestly if he could actually add additional algo's to the miner he could charge a lot more then 1.5% dev fee.
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JimmyFish
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December 05, 2017, 01:14:04 AM |
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Guys worried about seeing when the unit is mining on the dev pool - just look at your pools priority under miner status. Your pool priorities will be 0,1 and 2 when the miner is on your pools - 2,3,and 4 when mining for Blissz. Since this thread is about increasing efficiency (via firmware) I would like it if we could also discuss a little about pools as these seem to really play a big role in the profitability of this D3. I have tried p2pool, started well then dropped off rapidly to pure loss making. Tried Supranova.cc - not so good Tried zpool - seems to be the best so far, though its method of moving around x11 coins mining seems to be random instead of picking the most prifitable. Blissz - please pop a firmware upgrade that can cause my D3 to mine BTC, BCH, DASH, LTC, Eherium at 500TH/s Thanks for the work
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December 05, 2017, 01:17:24 AM Last edit: December 05, 2017, 07:52:03 AM by funminer |
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this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,
it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.
also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.
If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.
seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly
the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.
do not confuse the minds please.
Its not hidden you can see it in the kernal log, its also on the top level post. If you don't think the dev is worth it for 'just a mod' of the firmware, then don't pay it just use bitmain stock firmware, no is forcing you to use it. Honestly if he could actually add additional algo's to the miner he could charge a lot more then 1.5% dev fee. Why hidden charge, only because the devpools are not more on the list? They was there in the beginning, but people start compare the share numbers and not the time the devpools was used, and when you use SSH or Awesome Miner, you can see the Devpools! and this Firmware is worth the 1.5% fee, because you save or make more then 1.5% money when use it.
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funminer
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December 05, 2017, 01:24:26 AM |
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Guys worried about seeing when the unit is mining on the dev pool - just look at your pools priority under miner status. Your pool priorities will be 0,1 and 2 when the miner is on your pools - 2,3,and 4 when mining for Blissz. Since this thread is about increasing efficiency (via firmware) I would like it if we could also discuss a little about pools as these seem to really play a big role in the profitability of this D3. I have tried p2pool, started well then dropped off rapidly to pure loss making. Tried Supranova.cc - not so good Tried zpool - seems to be the best so far, though its method of moving around x11 coins mining seems to be random instead of picking the most prifitable. Blissz - please pop a firmware upgrade that can cause my D3 to mine BTC, BCH, DASH, LTC, Eherium at 500TH/s Thanks for the work Zpool is not random, it´s math. when he switch to a pool that has a nethash from 100GH and he put only 200GH in this pool is more effective then assign 500GH. and sometimes it´s more profitable to mine a coin that is cheaper, but with low nethash you will gain more.
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martyshmoo
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December 05, 2017, 01:26:53 AM |
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Hi, i just got mine d3 today. Which pool would you recomand? i would preffer to mine dash. Thank you
Treasurequarry.com
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llanaio
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December 05, 2017, 01:58:43 AM |
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Sorry, didn't realize I could flash remotely. Thought I had to pull the controller and use an SD card on the Beaglebone ARM. Tried remote flashing, works great, so I'm happy I can keep up with your new versions remotely.
Still interested in your thoughts for ideal settings for a data center environment.
It really depends on the power costs per kwh. But probably 17 Mh/s per unit (needs a voltage setting ~5 to ~9 I think) would be a sweet spot. It keeps things a bit cooler compared to the default firmware and makes sure you will have less failing units over a period of 2 years I would say. Thanks. Electricity cost is around $0.04/kWh plus a fixed hosting fee per unit. So I'm best off getting as much hashrate as I can from the units without killing them in <2 years. I've been tweaking my test units the past few hours and feel like I understand the options better. Relieved that I can continue updating as FW improves. FWIW, I was not at all confused about the dev fee and feel that 1.5% is reasonable if I get at least 5% net improvement. I hope you'll be well paid for your continued FW development. I'm not really expecting much from Bitmain in terms of advancing the FW. One question on the Dev fee, though: I understand that you choose your own pools, but do you alter the unit's other parameters during the Dev fee time? If I have my settings just so, does the dev fee period ramp them up, or just leave them as I've set them. Thanks.
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heythorp
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December 05, 2017, 02:37:22 AM |
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Thanks. Electricity cost is around $0.04/kWh plus a fixed hosting fee per unit. So I'm best off getting as much hashrate as I can from the units without killing them in <2 years. I've been tweaking my test units the past few hours and feel like I understand the options better. Relieved that I can continue updating as FW improves.
FWIW, I was not at all confused about the dev fee and feel that 1.5% is reasonable if I get at least 5% net improvement. I hope you'll be well paid for your continued FW development. I'm not really expecting much from Bitmain in terms of advancing the FW. One question on the Dev fee, though: I understand that you choose your own pools, but do you alter the unit's other parameters during the Dev fee time? If I have my settings just so, does the dev fee period ramp them up, or just leave them as I've set them.
Thanks.
To change things like frequency or volts would require a reboot.
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December 05, 2017, 02:42:41 AM |
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this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,
it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.
also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.
If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.
seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly
the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.
do not confuse the minds please.
Coming from the guy who kept posting that bs link to that bs scam page about adding other algorithms for donations first?? You are going in ingnore sir.
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martyshmoo
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December 05, 2017, 03:23:02 AM |
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this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,
it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.
also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.
If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.
seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly
the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.
do not confuse the minds please.
I am wondering how 1.5% is worked in this software. Everywhere I mine I get this drawback of hashrate on any pool evert 4 hours to 8 G/H for 5 minutes. Is this the dev fee happening in true time? Just wondering, It would explain a lot. M
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ftguy
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December 05, 2017, 04:53:52 AM |
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Thank you so much, this firmware is a bliss, I am currently testing 400Mhz, lowest voltage, 777watts , fans are around 2300 (auto-silence), hashing 15,156.20 and the noise is nothing compared to what it was before Just the pleasure to change any setting without that high pitch turbine sound at every reboot is worth the flash ^^
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D3 Antminer
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December 05, 2017, 08:22:10 AM |
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this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,
it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.
also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.
If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.
seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly
the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.
do not confuse the minds please.
Coming from the guy who kept posting that bs link to that bs scam page about adding other algorithms for donations first?? You are going in ingnore sir. fuck the scam page which claims donate. do you think that I am one of them and you find out ha ? dont think about too much conspiracy shits we are all in the same boat. My thoughts was not aimed to disrespect I share my thoughts , you may like it or not lets summarize 1) No one likes the hidden lifetime fees unless this is a miner itself.( especially in asic world) 2) if new algo possible , everyone will have much more profit because of this firmware so may be they share profit in that way.But new algo is not a item in this thread. 3) I believe that most of us prefer on time payment when experimental progress ended and stable version has been released. if you like to believe conspiracy theories , go watch flat earth documentaries and satisfy yourself. , Do not mess with me
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llanaio
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December 05, 2017, 08:32:00 AM |
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How was the dev fee hidden? I spotted it immediately. Dev fees are why people put their time into building new tools that we can benefit from. No dev fee = no new miners or FW, and we're stuck with whatever Bitmain gives us. (Not much!)
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thesavoyard
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December 05, 2017, 08:42:45 AM |
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So I've set it up, I started at 425 mHz and I can't find where hardware errors are reported. Anyone know which page it's on?
So at 25% fanspeed my chip temp got to 96c and I think it shut off. I set it to 30%, we'll see if that works.
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December 05, 2017, 08:45:54 AM |
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Check the "Miner Status" tab. HW errors are called "HW" there. You get a total, and a breakdown per each board.
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thesavoyard
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December 05, 2017, 08:50:54 AM |
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Check the "Miner Status" tab. HW errors are called "HW" there. You get a total, and a breakdown per each board. Thanks, so at 425 mHz I have 0. I'm going to quiet and efficient, any target frequency you suggest? Crap, even at 30% board 3 is hitting 94c. Yeah, it keeps over-heating and shutting down. I put it to 400 mHz and 35% fanspeed. We'll see how that goes.
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thesavoyard
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December 05, 2017, 08:59:33 AM |
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I don't know what's going on here, but I'm at 400 mHz, lowest voltage and 45% fan speed and my temps are still really high.
Board 3 chips are reporting 95c. Will dropping the frequency reduce the temperature?
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December 05, 2017, 09:14:03 AM |
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Yes, reducing the frequency should also result in lower temperatures.
What is the ambient temperature in the room?
What temps other boards show? If they are significantly lower, you can downclock only "Chain 3" (or whatever board is overheating) in the Advanced Settings.
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thesavoyard
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December 05, 2017, 09:19:06 AM |
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Yes, reducing the frequency should also result in lower temperatures.
What is the ambient temperature in the room?
What temps other boards show? If they are significantly lower, you can downclock only "Chain 3" (or whatever board is overheating).
I seem to have found the problem, there's an exhaust bottleneck on my sound reducing box. I'm going to get a 240 mm to 120 mm reducer so it funnels all the hot air directly from the back of the miner to the exhaust ducting. Until then, I'll slow down board 3. This is what it's showing. 1 60 425 5303.90 0 73 84 2 60 425 5222.22 0 70 82 3 60 425 5258.58 0 77 89
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