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December 05, 2017, 09:27:35 AM |
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this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,
it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.
also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.
If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.
seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly
the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.
do not confuse the minds please.
Are you russian?
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December 05, 2017, 09:32:18 AM |
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thesavoyard I'm not an expert in D3, but these temps look a bit too hot to me. I'd try to keep chips temperatures at or below 80, if possible.
I'm not sure were you are located, but it's winter in many parts of the world nowadays. So if you can arrange some cool air to reach the miner, it could really help.
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December 05, 2017, 09:42:57 AM |
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Its not hidden you can see it in the kernal log, its also on the top level post. If you don't think the dev is worth it for 'just a mod' of the firmware, then don't pay it just use bitmain stock firmware, no is forcing you to use it. Honestly if he could actually add additional algo's to the miner he could charge a lot more then 1.5% dev fee.
For me this is hidden. Since the antminer S1, I have never needed a look to Kernel log. She was previously understandable on the front page. Why did you need to change it at all?
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thesavoyard
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December 05, 2017, 09:43:44 AM |
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thesavoyard I'm not an expert in D3, but these temps look a bit too hot to me. I'd try to keep chips temperatures at or below 80, if possible.
I'm not sure were you are located, but it's winter in many parts of the world nowadays. So if you can arrange some cool air to reach the miner, it could really help.
I wish I could but I have it in the ventilation closet. I have the exhaust blowing out the cO2 vent system. I leave the door cracked to some ambient air gets in, but I think the adapter will fix the problem. I just have to get to the hardware store.
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December 05, 2017, 09:46:08 AM |
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this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,
it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.
also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.
If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.
seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly
the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.
do not confuse the minds please.
Are you russian? In the Russian forum has a tutorial on how to go around without DEV FEE. How was the dev fee hidden? I spotted it immediately. Dev fees are why people put their time into building new tools that we can benefit from. No dev fee = no new miners or FW, and we're stuck with whatever Bitmain gives us. (Not much!)
In the first ten(?) versions of the software, he was on the front page.
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December 05, 2017, 09:47:58 AM |
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Morning...
Flashed one D3 with blissz's firmware yesterday. Ran overnight on lowest voltage and 444mhz. No HWs; fans at 20%; temps low 70ºC. Was getting just under 17,000 MH/S at around 800W.
Running this morning at 10% fan, 400mhz, 15,000 MH/S and temps 69/70/72ºC. Power is at about 700W. Obviously going to watch this because of fan speed...
Going to run for a few days and then flash another D3; but looking good.
Thanks again - certainly a lot more useful than the stock settings.
All we need now is some developer to come up with an ingenious way to use these ASICs on other algos, England to beat Australia in the cricket, and we're laughing tin hats.
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December 05, 2017, 10:07:07 AM |
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In the Russian forum has a tutorial on how to go around without DEV FEE.
I saw these posts, but I believe that is unfair. And if many people do this, the developer will have to look for ways to get around. As a result, we will get a situation where efforts from both sides will be aimed at fighting each other, instead of improving the software.
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December 05, 2017, 10:10:04 AM Last edit: December 05, 2017, 10:40:03 AM by D3 Antminer |
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this is not a mining software itself, only a firmware mod ,
it does not deserve the developer's fee, and this is also a hidden charge, no one can be sure from it.
also the development process is still ongoing and it does not provide additional revenue.
If the algorithm was added, the developer fee was completely worth it.
seems as , it uses the units for experimantal and take share from the profit from them hiddenly
the common thing , mining software takes shares the profit. No one give lifetime profit share to modding.
do not confuse the minds please.
Are you russian? In the Russian forum has a tutorial on how to go around without DEV FEE. How was the dev fee hidden? I spotted it immediately. Dev fees are why people put their time into building new tools that we can benefit from. No dev fee = no new miners or FW, and we're stuck with whatever Bitmain gives us. (Not much!)
In the first ten(?) versions of the software, he was on the front page.my intention is never to disrespect the developer's rights. he certainly deserves a fee(one time payment , not a lifetime share) . I do not want to be misunderstood in this matter.
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December 05, 2017, 10:30:50 AM |
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Hello upgraded to new version and i get + 3 temp more on all boards with same setting as before is this normal ? IM using OC 22gh
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December 05, 2017, 11:19:41 AM |
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Hello upgraded to new version and i get + 3 temp more on all boards with same setting as before is this normal ? IM using OC 22gh
Yes, I also got extra temperature with the new firmware. 3 degrees is not so much, don't worry. It seems that the new firmware raises the temperature due to the fact that a new version of cgminer is used. The main thing is that the temperature on the boards does not exceed 80 degrees - otherwise the device will stop mining.
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December 05, 2017, 11:59:32 AM |
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Did U know, three days ago bitmaintech update github with DASH branch (to actual 1.0.0.9).
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December 05, 2017, 12:34:48 PM |
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Did U know, three days ago bitmaintech update github with DASH branch (to actual 1.0.0.9).
Not precisely sure what you mean, but nothing has changed from the Bitmain Firmware Page, up to this point. (time/date/etc) https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=00720170915192851224mJ36J1ap066ELikely, IMHO, Bitmain will soon stop making firmware upgrades for this. In my case at 12c kwh, I can't see me running these miners on Jan 1st, 2018! (live and learn I guess) This a weird world, where my original KNC Titan from Nov 6th, 2014 is still running and made today does $7.54 USD on 12c kwh at 1250 watts and 300mh. Sheesh. 3 years and 1 month. Yet this D3 is toaster city within 3-5 months at best. Does not bode well, for my toaster purchases, from any ASIC manufacture in 2018! oh well, I can't always pick winners (on the other hand, the 2 D3's I have will make sturdy bookcase ends/doorstops/boat anchors/space heaters/shooting range targets/hamster hovels/etc)
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Old Style Legacy Plug & Play BBS System. Get it from www.synchro.net. Updated 1/1/2021. It also works with Windows 10 and likely 11 and allows 16 bit DOS game doors on the same Win 10 Machine in Multi-Node! Five Minute Install! Look it over it uninstalls just as fast, if you simply want to look it over. Freeware! Full BBS System! It is a frigging hoot!:)
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December 05, 2017, 01:09:20 PM Last edit: December 05, 2017, 01:31:45 PM by Sidifotoskwa |
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it must be hard to perform autotune, especially with completly random error.
I agree, I hope Blissz doesn't fall into a rabbit hole with this. Boards sometimes throw tons of errors, sometimes work fine. I have one board that doesn't throw much errors but craps out after a few hours if I push it too far. Also the fact that changing settings in one board (for some mysterious reason) affects the other boards. It took me days to understand and tune this thing, I definitely wouldn't try to automate it It's not a mysterious reason. You have 2 fans and 3 boards.
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December 05, 2017, 01:55:02 PM |
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I am not sure if everyone is going to cheap in but its a good idea.I am all for it although I do not have any L3+.
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December 05, 2017, 02:10:35 PM |
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Did U know, three days ago bitmaintech update github with DASH branch (to actual 1.0.0.9).
Not precisely sure what you mean, but nothing has changed from the Bitmain Firmware Page, up to this point. (time/date/etc) https://shop.bitmain.com/support.htm?pid=00720170915192851224mJ36J1ap066ELikely, IMHO, Bitmain will soon stop making firmware upgrades for this. In my case at 12c kwh, I can't see me running these miners on Jan 1st, 2018! (live and learn I guess) This a weird world, where my original KNC Titan from Nov 6th, 2014 is still running and made today does $7.54 USD on 12c kwh at 1250 watts and 300mh. Sheesh. 3 years and 1 month. Yet this D3 is toaster city within 3-5 months at best. Does not bode well, for my toaster purchases, from any ASIC manufacture in 2018! oh well, I can't always pick winners (on the other hand, the 2 D3's I have will make sturdy bookcase ends/doorstops/boat anchors/space heaters/shooting range targets/hamster hovels/etc) I think this is what he is referring too - https://github.com/bitmaintech/cgminer-dash
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December 05, 2017, 02:11:42 PM |
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Can we start a pool to get Blissz an L3+ and a D3 so he can rewrite the OS'? The FIRMWARE from BITMAIN is trash IMO
GenTarkin (hi, if you are reading this) told me in a PM, there was not a lot he could do...closed source and all, if I remember right any gains would be in the cgminer software area...this was for the L3+, he was looking at for a buddy. As to the D3, well that would be a toaster by the first of the year or maybe Feb 2018....ie doorstop....(at least at my 12c kWh electric)...So why bother. Anyway, he probably lurks in this thread and can provide more detail, it is not like I'm talking out of school on this if there was a way to tweak Bitmain products..I'm sure he or someone, would have done so by now. It is just not easy, from what I gather. Ah, I see, so this is what bitmain posts, BEFORE, they put an firmware update for the Bitmain D3 on their site? ie a clue?
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Old Style Legacy Plug & Play BBS System. Get it from www.synchro.net. Updated 1/1/2021. It also works with Windows 10 and likely 11 and allows 16 bit DOS game doors on the same Win 10 Machine in Multi-Node! Five Minute Install! Look it over it uninstalls just as fast, if you simply want to look it over. Freeware! Full BBS System! It is a frigging hoot!:)
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December 05, 2017, 02:20:43 PM |
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These settings work a little differently for me: 16,539.8 MH/S(RT) HW 56 (first 30 min - Chain1 20 HW - Chain2 36 HW - Chain3 0 HW) 843 WATT
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December 05, 2017, 03:26:05 PM |
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My elec is fairly expensive ($0.2/kwh), but I've managed to get approx 126% ratio (MH/S RT) through cryptocompare. Here are the settings if anyone is interested. The power usage is 812W. My D3 sounded like a rocket ship at first, but it's incomparably better with this mod. Thanks! These settings work a little differently for me: 16,539.8 MH/S(RT) HW 56 (first 30 min - Chain1 20 HW - Chain2 36 HW - Chain3 0 HW) 843 WATT Ive never seen 444 freqency above 6k on any of my 4 D3 chains , silicon lottery
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December 05, 2017, 03:33:44 PM |
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it must be hard to perform autotune, especially with completly random error.
I agree, I hope Blissz doesn't fall into a rabbit hole with this. Boards sometimes throw tons of errors, sometimes work fine. I have one board that doesn't throw much errors but craps out after a few hours if I push it too far. Also the fact that changing settings in one board (for some mysterious reason) affects the other boards. It took me days to understand and tune this thing, I definitely wouldn't try to automate it It's not a mysterious reason. You have 2 fans and 3 boards. My temps are quite low, I don't believe the HW errors being because of the temps. Somehow changing settings in one board affects the others, maybe because of power draw, after all these bitmain PSU are cheap pieces of crap and at 120v I'm running it close to the limit, let's see when I go to 240v next week what happens.
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December 05, 2017, 03:59:06 PM |
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Anyone knows spesc from D3 fan? m3/ preasure and rpm? db from fan are so high
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