[OLD] Eligius: ASIC, no registration, no fee CPPSRB BTC + 105% PPS NMC, 877 #

[BitMinerN8]

For me it's just the graphs are not updating, the other stats seem to be working. (Unpaid Balance, Hashrate Average, Latest Payouts)

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[Subo1977]

For me it's just the graphs are not updating, the other stats seem to be working. (Unpaid Balance, Hashrate Average, Latest Payouts)

at me the hashrate 128 seconds and 256 seconds are correct, the 22.5 minutes and 3 Hours are from yesterday

[purelithium]

Anyone else having issues staying connected?

[wizkid057]

Anyone else having issues staying connected?

Been some reports, but I can not find anything pool-side that is causing it.

My personal miners are connected without issue, as well as some checks from servers around the world not having issues.

I will keep an eye on things.

-wk

[wizkid057]

Anyone else having issues staying connected?

Been some reports, but I can not find anything pool-side that is causing it.

My personal miners are connected without issue, as well as some checks from servers around the world not having issues.

I will keep an eye on things.

-wk

This looks like a generic internet routing issue not directly related to the pool which is affecting users who route through Level 3 Communications and some Cogent Communications nodes which land at the pool.

I would expect that this issue will correct itself soon.

-wk

[purelithium]

Thanks for the update, wiz! You're doing a great job at this pool, I'm glad I chose this when MtRed closed.

[GuiltySpark343]

I've been mining at a constant rate, but my Unpaid Balance is static (or sometimes decreasing!), while my Shelved Shares are increasing! Can someone explain why I have been mining for past 12 hours but my Unpaid Balance is not going up?

Also, I understand stratum is not working on Eligius?

[wizkid057]

I've been mining at a constant rate, but my Unpaid Balance is static (or sometimes decreasing!), while my Shelved Shares are increasing! Can someone explain why I have been mining for past 12 hours but my Unpaid Balance is not going up?

Also, I understand stratum is not working on Eligius?

We're currently in the middle of what seems to be a pretty unlucky round.  CPPSRB has a share log, and the top part of the share log is the estimated balance.  The pool can't pay more than it will receive from the block that is eventually found, so, it adds what it can to balance estimates, and the rest go to shelved shares to be paid by possible future blocks.  When we do eventually find a block, you'll notice that your balance estimate increase will still be about the same for the next round with the difference between what you've actually mined since the start of the round and the total estimate being taken from your shelved shares.  So no worries, just the reward system at work.

Also, stratum is working fine, and a large % of Eligius's hash power uses it.
GUIminer's stratum (poclbm I believe) is broken and does not properly handle target difficulties with stratum.  And for some reason the miner lies and says shares are accepted by the pool even though the miner has never sent any data to the pool in the first place. (I confirmed this with pcap earlier.)

-wk

[GuiltySpark343]

Ah thanks for the clarification. So I should be fine using stratum with BFGMiner and -o stratum+tcp://mining.eligius.st:3334 then?

[Parazyd]

Ah thanks for the clarification. So I should be fine using stratum with BFGMiner and -o stratum+tcp://mining.eligius.st:3334 then?

Yes. Welcome to Eligius. Get us a block! 

[ehoffman]

Congratulation Eligius, you have now officially entered the lowest luck ever run!  Past record was 16.8% on June 15, 2012.
Now we are at 16.5%, on a 43 hours run @ 1.7 THash/s  without a block

Well, tough luck I guess!

[GuiltySpark343]

Through fire and water. From the lowest dungeon to the highest peak, I hashed him, the Bitcoin Block of Morgoth. Until at last, I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin upon the block chain.

Darkness took me then. And I strayed out of thought and time. Stars wheeled overhead and everyday was as long as a a life-age of GPU cycles. But it was not the end. I felt light in me again. I've been sent back to hash some more, until ASICs kick my azz.

[ehoffman]

Congratulation Eligius, you have now officially entered the lowest luck ever run!  Past record was 16.8% on June 15, 2012.
Now we are at 16.5%, on a 43 hours run @ 1.7 THash/s  without a block

Well, tough luck I guess!

And... from a long 44 hours lethargy... 2 consecutive blocks under 1½ minute   Statistics gaining back on us!

[wizkid057]

Through fire and water. From the lowest dungeon to the highest peak, I hashed him, the Bitcoin Block of Morgoth. Until at last, I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin upon the block chain.

Darkness took me then. And I strayed out of thought and time. Stars wheeled overhead and everyday was as long as a a life-age of GPU cycles. But it was not the end. I felt light in me again. I've been sent back to hash some more, until ASICs kick my azz.

This made me chuckle.

[wizkid057]

Greetings Eligius Miners!

After much debate, there are going to need to be some minor changes to the current reward system/payout system.

As most everyone knows, Eligius pays directly from the generation/coinbase transaction.  Also, Eligius miners enter the payout queue for payment via coinbase once they reach 100 TBC (~0.167 BTC) or they have been inactive for two weeks.

Unfortunately someone has decided to exploit the 7 day timeout caveat by changing their payout address after very few shares.  Our payout queue contained 800 addresses earlier, but only had 50 BTC or so in payments listed. (An average way below the minimum.)

This entity seems to have started mining a bit over a week ago, and now their addresses are starting to hit the payout queue.  When the coinbase payout transaction reached about 500 addresses, this popped up issues with Avalon miners and stratum proxy miners because for whatever reason they were not able to handle hashing the larger coinbase transaction.  So, for the time being I have implemented a minimum payout for coinbase payout at 10 TBC (0.01048576) regardless of the 7 day timeout.

Now, the very small "dust" payouts will be done manually, however this is not an ideal solution, as it supports abuse of our payout system and just adds a lot of clutter overall to the pool and the blockchain and just isn't good for the network in general.

As a more solid solution, I will be implementing an absolute minimum payout amount, tentatively discussed to be set at 2 TBC (0.00131072 BTC).  If a pool username/address has not mined at least 2 TBC, and their balance does not increase for 60 days or more, then that balance will be forfeited.  Since the total of these amounts should be pretty insignificant, I will be setting them to be aggregated occasionally and subsequently donated to the pool.

Summary of how things will work now, effective within 48 hours:

• I will be paying out all current "dust" amounts in the payout queue manually so that these changes are not retroactive.
• After this is done, the new rules will be in effect.
• Currently active miners, regardless of hashrate, will be uneffected by these changes.
• Miners who reach the minimum payout amount of 100 TBC (~0.167 BTC) will enter the payout queue as normal.
• Miners who reach a balance of at least 10 TBC (0.01048576 BTC) and then become inactive^* for 7+ days will enter the payout queue as normal.
• Miners who reach a balance of at least 2 TBC (0.00131072 BTC) and then become inactive^* for 7+ days will NOT enter the payout queue for a coinbase based payout and will instead be paid out manually, periodically, at the pool's discretion.
• Miners who reach a balance of less than 2 TBC and then become inactive^* for 7+ days will NOT enter the payout queue for a coinbase based payout and will NOT be paid manually.  If the miner remains inactive^* for a total of 60 days or more, then their balance will be donated to the pool.
• Miners who meet the above provision for balance forfeiture, but also have shelved shares or SMPPS extra credit will not lose these amounts, however any future rewarding of these shelved shares/extra credit to a balance at the pool will once again fall under the above provisions as normal.

^*: "Inactive" is, and has been defined at Eligius, as: no new valid shares submitted and no new shelved shares rewarded to account balance for 7 days.

One potential side effect of this new policy that some may need to be aware of:

• Miners who actively mine, but do change their address occasionally should not change addresses until their balance is at least 2 TBC, otherwise this small dust amount may be forfeited.

I feel that 2 TBC (0.00131072 BTC) is a small enough amount to eliminate any real issues with legitimate miners losing any credit.  Many pools implement limits where you can never be paid less than 0.1 or 0.01 BTC and such, so, I feel this amount is reasonable, however, is subject to change.  Any legitimate miner who does fall under the 60 day timeout provision with a balance less than 2 TBC is welcome to contact me directly on IRC or via email with a signed message for their address requesting a payout of their dust balance be included in the next batch of manual payouts, and I will do so, at my discretion.

Again, my apologies for these changes.  Please just realize that they are not as confusing as they sound, and I assure you they should not impact any legitimate miners of the Eligius pool.

I'm sure there will be questions about this, so, feel free to post them or contact me and I will be glad to address concerns!

Thanks, and as always, happy mining!

-wk

Note: A signed version of this message is available here. Edit: includes some minor typographical errors which were corrected in this post.

[purelithium]

In other words, these new changes won't have any effect on 99% of the miners, who maintain a decent hashrate and don't change addresses.

[wizkid057]

In other words, these new changes won't have any effect on 99% of the miners, who maintain a decent hashrate and don't change addresses.

It won't have any effect on 99.9% of miners, period.  Its not hashrate dependent.

For sake of completeness, not hashrate dependent unless your total hashrate is less than 0.0008 Mh/sec, less than 1 share every 60 days.  At that point I'm not sure they'd notice anyway... 

[WynX]

Fine by me....too bad there's always people trying to exploit the system...

[Subo1977]

No payouts Arm ?

[wizkid057]

No payouts Arm ?

Manual payout sent to clear out the payout queue: 7644f521b04f0185f326f9f8c0a8909e7c62f4df087f1da937472a0180d44355