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March 19, 2018, 05:04:52 AM
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Looking at today's chart on CoinMarketCap reveals the desperate struggle to obtain Credits in an ever shrinking environment full of HOLDlers, who are hoping this coin breaks into the top 100, this week. Given the BIG surge today of 30%, there's an excellent chance of that. It's now sitting at #135.

Once it breaks into the top 100, it enters a whole new environment of investors, and people willing to take a chance.  Not to mention the possibility of become listed on Binance, which would be obviously be huge.

Congratulations again, to the team on a job well done, in terms of managing the resilient expectations of investors.

Again, regarding the CNBC rumor, this was just a rumor. I have no solid proof that CNBC will be featuring this as a potential "Ripple Killer" as early as Monday, but there's chatter among business news buffs that the transaction speed-test is raising eyebrows everywhere, as well they should.

After the video was uploaded the fuds or bashing stopped I knew that the video is coming because it's the big news in their telegram channel Credits is in demand right now, it is only a matter of time before it hit $1 after that there's no stopping to get it in the top 50 and so on what a what a way to end this fuds.
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March 19, 2018, 06:31:12 AM
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Looking at today's chart on CoinMarketCap reveals the desperate struggle to obtain Credits in an ever shrinking environment full of HOLDlers, who are hoping this coin breaks into the top 100, this week. Given the BIG surge today of 30%, there's an excellent chance of that. It's now sitting at #135.

Once it breaks into the top 100, it enters a whole new environment of investors, and people willing to take a chance.  Not to mention the possibility of become listed on Binance, which would be obviously be huge.

Congratulations again, to the team on a job well done, in terms of managing the resilient expectations of investors.

Again, regarding the CNBC rumor, this was just a rumor. I have no solid proof that CNBC will be featuring this as a potential "Ripple Killer" as early as Monday, but there's chatter among business news buffs that the transaction speed-test is raising eyebrows everywhere, as well they should.

"Ripple Killer" Grin Grin Grin
I would support this scam if it markets openly as a "Ripple Killer"
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March 19, 2018, 06:58:47 AM
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Alrighty then, back to important facts regarding this shitcoin.
I doubt you would ever be able to understand any of this, but hey I'm gonna leave it here anyway.


So I thought I'd do a translation and commentary on the Credits second alpha test Medium post (https://medium.com/@credits/the-alpha-version-of-credits-showed-a-speed-of-488-403-transactions-per-second-during-the-testing-ca5c1045577). Below are just my thoughts and observations. Quoted passages throughout are verbatim from the Credits team post.

QUOTE: "The platform node was deployed on a virtual machine in Microsoft Hyper-V for x64-based systems. The hardware specifications were the following: Intel® Xeon® E5–2630, 15 MB cache, 2.30 GHz, 7.20 GT/s Intel® QPI, Turbo boost of 2.80 GHz, 8 GB RAM.

The virtual platform configuration involved the creation of 29 nodes and 1 signaling server with the processor speed from 2.2 to 2.8 GHz."

They mention this themselves later in the post, but this is pretty feeble hardware for a performance test. But the really eye-opening bit is that they are running all 30 nodes on just one processor (6-cores). This is a serious limit on both the amount of load generated and the validity of this as a test. There is literally NO network overhead modeled in this test. Some might argue that, they must have used other system to run the client robots to generate the actual load. This is never stated, and even if true there is no modeling of network overhead to reach consensus or to transfer blocks between nodes.

QUOTE: "The main objective of testing was the ability of network architecture to manage and process large volumes of transactions. That was the asynchronous transaction processing by all nodes on the network due to multi-threading operations. "

Of course there is a hard-limit on the possibility of multi-threading when you're running 30 nodes on just 12 threads (6-core processor + hypertheading).

QUOTE: "In total run, the test was accomplished about 30 times and consistently went from 300 to 500 thousand transactions per second, due to the fact that such a number of transactions occupies up to 385 MB of memory (500 thousand transactions per second). The transaction has a maximum size that is reserved in the database, i.e. up to 808 bytes depending on the balance, the length of the address, the transaction currency, availability of digital signature, etc. We have decided to cut the transaction to 120–150 bytes in order to simplify testing. Otherwise, we would have had to deploy very powerful nodes with a high network bandwidth and a large storage. For example, for 1 hour at 500 tp/s the volume would amount to 1,387 TB."

I pointed this out in chat groups. The storage requirements of the Credits system are out of hand. First off, since they've removed Merkle trees from their blocks, there is no transaction pruning. I have also confirmed via their Telegram group that all nodes are expected to store all blocks. So let's run the numbers:

400k TP/S * 135 bytes = 54 MB/s. That translates to 4.6 TB/day . And that's with their faked reduced load. Their max transaction size is 808 bytes, so a more reasonable average of 404 bytes per transaction yields: 13.9 TB/day in data.

QUOTE: "The absence of EDS. We were tasked to test the load on a stable version of the platform. EDS requires additional processing time and adds 64 bytes to the volume of one transaction. The function is implemented in later versions of the platform with the use of technology EB25519..."

I'm guessing they mean an "Encrypted Data Store" since they never expand out the acronym. So all of this is without encrypting/storing the data. I'm pretty sure this isn't what they mean since they then mention "EB25519" (sic). I think they mean EC25519 - elliptic curve key agreement. Which is not for encrypting data as they suggest but for creating public & private keys. So this statement is either opaque or just nonsense. But let me take them at face value and just add that 64 bytes of data to the previous computations.

So we now have the following transactions sizes 184 bytes (min during testing), 468 bytes (average?), 872 bytes (max). Yielding daily storage requirements of: 6.4 TB/day, 16.1 TB/day, 30 TB/day. It's worth noting that each node needs a download speed of 3 Megabits per second (Mbps) to keep up with the max data rate. And this is assuming only 400k TP/S.

QUOTE: "Validation of nodes. We refused from the validation algorithm DPOS and implemented a stable version of the validation algorithm BFT. During the testing phase, it was decided to use a stripped-down, but a stable version of this protocol."

So they didn't implement their proposed dPoS (dPoW??) algorithm, instead using a stable version of BFT? So this test does not actually reflect running their own proposed solution, but some other solution that they don't really specify. BFT (Byzantine Fault Tolerance) is the name of the problem, not the solution. The one solution ("Practical Byzantine Fault Tolerance" (PBFT) by Castro & Liskov -- Wikipedia) is an example of a solution. There are others, but stating "BFT" does not give any clue to the correctness, viability, speed, or applicability of the solution they used. Furthermore the resulting performance of the consensus (which must be reached by some majority of the nodes) is not reflective of their final solution. The consensus algorithm is the key bit of the system, it's the "crypto" part of cryptocurrency. I'm not sure how anyone is supposed to determine the viability of their system when it doesn't contain critical parts of the code they intend to run.

QUOTE: "The checking of transaction uniqueness was performed without checking the account balance. It affects the speed only to inconsiderable ~1–2%, but we would have to create a lot of different accounts."

Wait, that means there was no checking for double-spending. Hell there was no storage and updating of account data. So the memory requirements of that subsystem are also absent from the test. While the time required might be low, the actually memory usage can be significant. If the memory usage exceeds the capacity of the node (which is likely at these transaction speeds) the total time while grow exponentially as the nodes start switching to virtual memory (which can be 100-1000x slower than RAM).

QUOTE: "The following issues were also absent as not required for testing the system bandwidth: - Charging of fees for processing to the main and trusted nodes; - Processing related to smart contracts;"

Uh right, so all of this ignores the actual performance costs of running smart contracts. In fact, I asked in their Telegram group where/when the virtual machines (VM) for running smart contracts would be running (never addressed in their white paper or technical paper) and never got an answer. The whole system will slow down drastically when they need to start running transaction that are more than just moving Credits from one account to another.

QUOTE: "The speed is also reduced as the load on the network increases."

They casually toss this in, and follow it up with:

QUOTE: "The environment always greatly affects the network bandwidth, and the same applies to the network load. The rule is always the same regardless of the complexity of the system."

Right! So they decide to test all of their nodes running on a single server running in virtual machines? There is no real Internet delays, no lag time, no bandwidth restrictions. The test they ran is an optimal speed test, not a real performance test. Their optimal speed is an AVERAGE of 100-1000 TPS, which is inline with the performance we see from the likes of STEEM and BitShares today. While they manage 1 second long peeks of 400K, that is in no way a sustained rate. But all of that assumes an unrealistically fast/reliable network, which the real Internet isn't. Besides they're not running their production code, but a stripped down version without a version of the critical component (dPoS/dPoW).

QUOTE: "We decided to remove the response request from the connector. However, this step increased the risk of data loss during the synchronization. At the same time, there emerged some problems with the data transfer protocol: the maximum packet datagram of 65,535 bytes for the UDP Protocol did not permit transmitting larger packets. Packet sizes were restricted to maximum size of the datagram to solve both of these problems, i.e. reducing the loss of data during transmission and increasing the speed of processing."

Sigh. Again, this was an optimal network. UDP is not reliable, the Internet prefers TCP since it guarantees transmission (unlike UDP). Max size UDP packets run the risk of being dropped by routers on the Internet due to fragmentation/errors. Dropped UDP packets are just lost, and the servers are required to recognize the problem and resend. That's the "response request" they dropped from the test. Which would have slowed down their system! UDP is great when an unreliable data stream is acceptable (Eg. video). If one or more packets are lost, things like YouTube can just stall for a fraction of a second and continue playing, sometime unnoticed. I don't think you want your cryptocurrency failing to send synchronization packets between nodes. The result is delayed transaction times and the possibility of double-spending errors. In the case of slower protocols (BTC, ETH) where are are often large amounts of times to resend data (10 mins, 30 seconds respectively) UDP is probably acceptable. Credits is targeting 0.1sec. transaction times -- there isn't time for multiple resends between confirming nodes. Remember 51% of the trusted nodes have to agree on the ledger for a transaction to have a single confirmation.

QUOTE: "The average minimum time of passing a transaction record into the database is 1.302 microseconds ( 10 –6 sec) (transfer between nodes, processing and preservation in the storage). "

That's "average MINIMUM time" (emphasis mine). That of course is transfer between nodes RUNNING ON THE SAME COMPUTER AND IN PARALLEL THREADS ON DIFFERENT CORES! For freak's sake, that's no way indicative of even optimistic processing on a real network. For comparison, sending 56 bytes of data 8 feet on gigabit ethernet takes 450 microseconds, or 300 times longer. That's no router, no "real" Internet. Just a quick UDP transmit from my desk to the router in the corner.

Look, can the Credits team build a system? Probably. I think they still have a lot to learn about cryptocurrency, but they can learn it a build something. Will it handle 1 million tp/s in the real world? No. Will it handle 100k tp/s in the real world? Not likely. Will it handle 10k tp/s (peak) and 1-2k sustained? That's a possible outcome WITHOUT smart contracts. Which would make it approximately as fast as some of the non-contract capable blockchain solutions out there today. Will this team implement secure smart contracts, reliable/secure transactions at 1000+ tp/s? I don't think they'll be first or best at it.




It's all lies and bedtime stories kids. No matter how hard you try to shill, it's still only a shitcoin made to steal money from ignorant people.

fuck you



Funny, the truth strikes right in the middle.
Why the excitement?
Because you know all this is true and they are deluding people with their marketing and paid shillers?
Or you don't know a flying shit about the tech and just believe in everything those idiots say?
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March 19, 2018, 07:04:05 AM
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Looking at today's chart on CoinMarketCap reveals the desperate struggle to obtain Credits in an ever shrinking environment full of HOLDlers, who are hoping this coin breaks into the top 100, this week. Given the BIG surge today of 30%, there's an excellent chance of that. It's now sitting at #135.

Once it breaks into the top 100, it enters a whole new environment of investors, and people willing to take a chance.  Not to mention the possibility of become listed on Binance, which would be obviously be huge.

Congratulations again, to the team on a job well done, in terms of managing the resilient expectations of investors.

Again, regarding the CNBC rumor, this was just a rumor. I have no solid proof that CNBC will be featuring this as a potential "Ripple Killer" as early as Monday, but there's chatter among business news buffs that the transaction speed-test is raising eyebrows everywhere, as well they should.

"Ripple Killer" Grin Grin Grin
I would support this scam if it markets openly as a "Ripple Killer"

ROFL this guy is amazing. The amount of garbage he types almost matches the amount of shit Credits is publishing in their pointless articles and self reviews. Just incredible mindless pile of crap. Not a single thing around this shitcoin has ever looked serious for a moment.
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March 19, 2018, 07:26:35 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with people. Ok there are some red flags we get it. I appreciate issues being highlighted its great but once you have then surely your job is done and then you just let people take on a high risk investment or not. Many were saying Xtrabytes was a scam early on and now its a relatively respected project that has had a great roi for early investors.

If people continue to fud after everyone is aware of the risks then you got to be suspicious of their motives. I migjt say its genuine concern for those they think they are protecting but im not seeing any concern and actually seem pretty happy about some becoming fucked by credits.

So leave people alone now to make their own decisions. We aren't fucking children.
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March 19, 2018, 07:32:16 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with people. Ok there are some red flags we get it. I appreciate issues being highlighted its great but once you have then surely your job is done and then you just let people take on a high risk investment or not. Many were saying Xtrabytes was a scam early on and now its a relatively respected project that has had a great roi for early investors.

If people continue to fud after everyone is aware of the risks then you got to be suspicious of their motives. I migjt say its genuine concern for those they think they are protecting but im not seeing any concern and actually seem pretty happy about some becoming fucked by credits.

So leave people alone now to make their own decisions. We aren't fucking children.

The difference with credits is that everyone tech-knowledgeable clearly sees that every "news" from the team is a complete bullshit. Just a bunch of terms and fancy abbreviations connected with each other without any specific meaning. For any other investor it may look like a real-deal news.
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March 19, 2018, 08:17:04 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with people. Ok there are some red flags we get it. I appreciate issues being highlighted its great but once you have then surely your job is done and then you just let people take on a high risk investment or not. Many were saying Xtrabytes was a scam early on and now its a relatively respected project that has had a great roi for early investors.

If people continue to fud after everyone is aware of the risks then you got to be suspicious of their motives. I migjt say its genuine concern for those they think they are protecting but im not seeing any concern and actually seem pretty happy about some becoming fucked by credits.

So leave people alone now to make their own decisions. We aren't fucking children.

The difference with credits is that everyone tech-knowledgeable clearly sees that every "news" from the team is a complete bullshit. Just a bunch of terms and fancy abbreviations connected with each other without any specific meaning. For any other investor it may look like a real-deal news.


Why you using a sockpuppet? You're the one acting suspicious at this point. A legitimate issue could be voiced through your main account.

Its not so much the test that makes me think this project is legit its many things. For one you dont put your face all over the internet and go to conferences if you have zero tech to back up your claims. Scams dont do that. They either are at heart a scam like Bittconnect or a total fake project like confido. If they dont have tech to back this up then they are damn foolish cause they have made public claims like their code has been reviewed etc. In this current climate of crypto if the project is a scam then the team would probably serve prison time and have assets taken. Im willing to take a risk they arent that fucking stupid.
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March 19, 2018, 09:04:49 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with people. Ok there are some red flags we get it. I appreciate issues being highlighted its great but once you have then surely your job is done and then you just let people take on a high risk investment or not. Many were saying Xtrabytes was a scam early on and now its a relatively respected project that has had a great roi for early investors.

If people continue to fud after everyone is aware of the risks then you got to be suspicious of their motives. I migjt say its genuine concern for those they think they are protecting but im not seeing any concern and actually seem pretty happy about some becoming fucked by credits.

So leave people alone now to make their own decisions. We aren't fucking children.

The difference with credits is that everyone tech-knowledgeable clearly sees that every "news" from the team is a complete bullshit. Just a bunch of terms and fancy abbreviations connected with each other without any specific meaning. For any other investor it may look like a real-deal news.


Why you using a sockpuppet? You're the one acting suspicious at this point. A legitimate issue could be voiced through your main account.

Its not so much the test that makes me think this project is legit its many things. For one you dont put your face all over the internet and go to conferences if you have zero tech to back up your claims. Scams dont do that. They either are at heart a scam like Bittconnect or a total fake project like confido. If they dont have tech to back this up then they are damn foolish cause they have made public claims like their code has been reviewed etc. In this current climate of crypto if the project is a scam then the team would probably serve prison time and have assets taken. Im willing to take a risk they arent that fucking stupid.

Lol, that's my main and only account. And again, the reason I'm posting all this things exactly because this project is all over redflagged, and whoever orchestrating all this is truly marketing genius.
Is there at least one dev who actually participated in interview/conference/academic paper ?

Serve prison for what exactly? Did you even read the agreement of the ICO if you participated?
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March 19, 2018, 09:28:36 AM
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I tire of you already. I guess your just trying to fud credits but either way I dont care. The more you post the more many will think this project is legit cause your points are weak and could be leveled at any project really. I got 90k of credits. Pretty sure its gonna make me some money. So
do yourself a favour and invest or put your energy into investing in something else.
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March 19, 2018, 10:13:03 AM
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I missed one day and the shillers made a party here as i see praising a video that PROVES NOTHING.

therat made a great research once more as the previous article he made and i personally thank him for that.
Its pretty hard warning newcomers for the nonsense credits provide with so many fake accounts supporting this sh*ty coin.

I will copy a paragraph from the last article of therat that its pretty clear and understandable for everyone about their "special" video with 480k tps.

"QUOTE: "The average minimum time of passing a transaction record into the database is 1.302 microseconds ( 10 –6 sec) (transfer between nodes, processing and preservation in the storage). "

That's "average MINIMUM time" (emphasis mine). That of course is transfer between nodes RUNNING ON THE SAME COMPUTER AND IN PARALLEL THREADS ON DIFFERENT CORES! For freak's sake, that's no way indicative of even optimistic processing on a real network. For comparison, sending 56 bytes of data 8 feet on gigabit ethernet takes 450 microseconds, or 300 times longer. That's no router, no "real" Internet. Just a quick UDP transmit from my desk to the router in the corner."


Did you miss me you sh*t scammers?

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March 19, 2018, 10:26:44 AM
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I've lost all my faith in this project. There have been some serious questions asked about credits and they have not done enough to satisfy my doubt. Aside from the big promises what has credits actually got? Oh yes there's Suppoman, enough said.


Why you lost faith my friend?
Why you use your COMMON SENSE for judging this scam project?
You should be like all the fake accounts around praising this sh*ty ico and have faith to a pdf they created and video that show transactions between 2 nodes running on same computer with zero network latency due to hyper-v.
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March 19, 2018, 10:29:24 AM
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I tire of you already. I guess your just trying to fud credits but either way I dont care. The more you post the more many will think this project is legit cause your points are weak and could be leveled at any project really. I got 90k of credits. Pretty sure its gonna make me some money. So
do yourself a favour and invest or put your energy into investing in something else.

Here is a good read for you: https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1508/1508.00184.pdf

It is a research paper clearly showing that ECDSA signature verification alone takes as long as 0.0002 s. Let's say that it is for a single core - that is 5000 tx/s. And that is just cryptographic verification.
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March 19, 2018, 10:36:15 AM
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Well is this the start of Credits going to the moon? the telegram people are very hyper  about this project, we will see this coin going to two digit in just a matter of weeks the video is awesome we now have a profitable project to look now, it shows green while majority shows red.

Credits goes to the "moon" with bots and stupid videos made by amateurs.
No devs, just marketers.
Fake accounts everywhere and paid supporters hunting left bones.
Banning from telegram and every social media.
Using MD5 for providing private keys.
No code.


I researched a bit more. The CEO has a website credits.ru since 2011 and had 11 odd devs earlier. They would have tried to acquire credits.com earlier. Clearly they are not fly by night. Only question is whether they achieved 1mn TPS

I researched a bit more. The CEO has a website credits.ru since 2011 and had 11 odd devs earlier. They would have tried to acquire credits.com earlier. Clearly they are not fly by night. Only question is whether they achieved 1mn TPS
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March 19, 2018, 10:38:36 AM
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I tire of you already. I guess your just trying to fud credits but either way I dont care. The more you post the more many will think this project is legit cause your points are weak and could be leveled at any project really. I got 90k of credits. Pretty sure its gonna make me some money. So
do yourself a favour and invest or put your energy into investing in something else.

Here is a good read for you: https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1508/1508.00184.pdf

It is a research paper clearly showing that ECDSA signature verification alone takes as long as 0.0002 s. Let's say that it is for a single core - that is 5000 tx/s. And that is just cryptographic verification.


This has no value to people like him and other cheap fucks. He bought his coins and no matter the scam, the tech, the shill, he just sets his goal, browses the internet researching what car or house he would buy when this shitcoin hits x1000 like Suppoman said. That's the truth. He blatantly defends his investment hoping that it would fool more and more people, he watches Suppos stream every day hoping he would mention Credits again.

What is however important, is to warn all the noobs who get blinded by this shameless marketing and explain what is actually behind it.
That's why I don't intend to stop driving those fucking scammers mad.
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March 19, 2018, 10:40:56 AM
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I tire of you already. I guess your just trying to fud credits but either way I dont care. The more you post the more many will think this project is legit cause your points are weak and could be leveled at any project really. I got 90k of credits. Pretty sure its gonna make me some money. So
do yourself a favour and invest or put your energy into investing in something else.

Here is a good read for you: https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1508/1508.00184.pdf

It is a research paper clearly showing that ECDSA signature verification alone takes as long as 0.0002 s. Let's say that it is for a single core - that is 5000 tx/s. And that is just cryptographic verification.


They call you fuder when you provide facts.
Thats a whole new level of ignorance.
These accounts talk so similar as previous ones so who cares.
Its good you provide some links that at least are necessary for others to get more knowledge.
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March 19, 2018, 10:43:12 AM
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I tire of you already. I guess your just trying to fud credits but either way I dont care. The more you post the more many will think this project is legit cause your points are weak and could be leveled at any project really. I got 90k of credits. Pretty sure its gonna make me some money. So
do yourself a favour and invest or put your energy into investing in something else.

Here is a good read for you: https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1508/1508.00184.pdf

It is a research paper clearly showing that ECDSA signature verification alone takes as long as 0.0002 s. Let's say that it is for a single core - that is 5000 tx/s. And that is just cryptographic verification.


This has no value to people like him and other cheap fucks. He bought his coins and no matter the scam, the tech, the shill, he just sets his goal, browses the internet researching what car or house he would buy when this shitcoin hits x1000 like Suppoman said. That's the truth. He blatantly defends his investment hoping that it would fool more and more people, he watches Suppos stream every day hoping he would mention Credits again.

What is however important, is to warn all the noobs who get blinded by this shameless marketing and explain what is actually behind it.
That's why I don't intend to stop driving those fucking scammers mad.

Well said here.
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March 19, 2018, 10:53:26 AM
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I tire of you already. I guess your just trying to fud credits but either way I dont care. The more you post the more many will think this project is legit cause your points are weak and could be leveled at any project really. I got 90k of credits. Pretty sure its gonna make me some money. So
do yourself a favour and invest or put your energy into investing in something else.

Here is a good read for you: https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1508/1508.00184.pdf

It is a research paper clearly showing that ECDSA signature verification alone takes as long as 0.0002 s. Let's say that it is for a single core - that is 5000 tx/s. And that is just cryptographic verification.


This has no value to people like him and other cheap fucks. He bought his coins and no matter the scam, the tech, the shill, he just sets his goal, browses the internet researching what car or house he would buy when this shitcoin hits x1000 like Suppoman said. That's the truth. He blatantly defends his investment hoping that it would fool more and more people, he watches Suppos stream every day hoping he would mention Credits again.

What is however important, is to warn all the noobs who get blinded by this shameless marketing and explain what is actually behind it.
That's why I don't intend to stop driving those fucking scammers mad.

Well said here.


Well we really are feedup with your fucking comments..do u have a real job or somethning to do else than ..shitting here

we all a adults and know what we do ..we know there is a risk in every inversement in the crypto world..so damn shut up the shit and go to hell for once

no need you to bash us continously with your  f**cking shit..

I have invested and dont regret it..and ready to accept the loss if it is a scam ..are we clear fu**cking moron?
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March 19, 2018, 10:54:10 AM
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Good evening, CREDITS is very impressed with his idea! I really want to support the project and see its implementation!

If you want to support the crypto community its better you warn others to read some facts before they invest their money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKbbrt4P0s&t=

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@terminate1/people-deserve-to-know-the-facts-behind-credits-ico

https://medium.com/@suchi.blackwing/cryptocurrency-code-review-credits-f6c42c3f6f80
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March 19, 2018, 10:58:28 AM
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I tire of you already. I guess your just trying to fud credits but either way I dont care. The more you post the more many will think this project is legit cause your points are weak and could be leveled at any project really. I got 90k of credits. Pretty sure its gonna make me some money. So
do yourself a favour and invest or put your energy into investing in something else.

Here is a good read for you: https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1508/1508.00184.pdf

It is a research paper clearly showing that ECDSA signature verification alone takes as long as 0.0002 s. Let's say that it is for a single core - that is 5000 tx/s. And that is just cryptographic verification.


This has no value to people like him and other cheap fucks. He bought his coins and no matter the scam, the tech, the shill, he just sets his goal, browses the internet researching what car or house he would buy when this shitcoin hits x1000 like Suppoman said. That's the truth. He blatantly defends his investment hoping that it would fool more and more people, he watches Suppos stream every day hoping he would mention Credits again.

What is however important, is to warn all the noobs who get blinded by this shameless marketing and explain what is actually behind it.
That's why I don't intend to stop driving those fucking scammers mad.

Well said here.


Well we really are feedup with your fucking comments..do u have a real job or somethning to do else than ..shitting here

we all a adults and know what we do ..we know there is a risk in every inversement in the crypto world..so damn shut up the shit and go to hell for once

no need you to bash us continously with your  f**cking shit..

I have invested and dont regret it..and ready to accept the loss if it is a scam ..are we clear fu**cking moron?


Good to see you getting excited over the facts.
You might be fed up hearing about it, but there are so many other people that need to be warned. So sit tight and watch this shitcoin gets exposed.
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March 19, 2018, 10:59:27 AM
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I tire of you already. I guess your just trying to fud credits but either way I dont care. The more you post the more many will think this project is legit cause your points are weak and could be leveled at any project really. I got 90k of credits. Pretty sure its gonna make me some money. So
do yourself a favour and invest or put your energy into investing in something else.

Here is a good read for you: https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1508/1508.00184.pdf

It is a research paper clearly showing that ECDSA signature verification alone takes as long as 0.0002 s. Let's say that it is for a single core - that is 5000 tx/s. And that is just cryptographic verification.


This has no value to people like him and other cheap fucks. He bought his coins and no matter the scam, the tech, the shill, he just sets his goal, browses the internet researching what car or house he would buy when this shitcoin hits x1000 like Suppoman said. That's the truth. He blatantly defends his investment hoping that it would fool more and more people, he watches Suppos stream every day hoping he would mention Credits again.

What is however important, is to warn all the noobs who get blinded by this shameless marketing and explain what is actually behind it.
That's why I don't intend to stop driving those fucking scammers mad.

Well said here.


Well we really are feedup with your fucking comments..do u have a real job or somethning to do else than ..shitting here

we all a adults and know what we do ..we know there is a risk in every inversement in the crypto world..so damn shut up the shit and go to hell for once

no need you to bash us continously with your  f**cking shit..

I have invested and dont regret it..and ready to accept the loss if it is a scam ..are we clear fu**cking moron?

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