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May 24, 2017, 04:34:40 PM
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Now I will solemnly say two things

The first
65000000 belong to BTC38
The following translated from BTC38:
User top-up to the virtual currency of The Times, in order to ensure safety, we will roughly 70% to 75% of the money saved to the cold purse, 5% - 5% of the money saved in hot wallet real-time currency, in order to meet user the rest on the purse, when insufficient heat purse on the number of COINS, we will reserve currency into hot wallet purse. Therefore, the amount of money you see in the cold wallet address on this page actually represents our ability to pay 70-75% of the virtual currency.
Total user balance: 75273665.985786, time cold wallet address: qfy7xl1whqcwwwjadlbm8jut9f

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Those larger wallets, 7777777,20000000.1000000
It's all Chinese investment institutions,
They spent millions of dollars buying these quarks
If it proves that it can bring everyone together
I can communicate with people who have these wallets
Let them move to another purse in your allotted time
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May 24, 2017, 04:41:42 PM
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Now I will solemnly say two things

The first
65000000 belong to BTC38
The following translated from BTC38:
User top-up to the virtual currency of The Times, in order to ensure safety, we will roughly 70% to 75% of the money saved to the cold purse, 5% - 5% of the money saved in hot wallet real-time currency, in order to meet user the rest on the purse, when insufficient heat purse on the number of COINS, we will reserve currency into hot wallet purse. Therefore, the amount of money you see in the cold wallet address on this page actually represents our ability to pay 70-75% of the virtual currency.
Total user balance: 75273665.985786, time cold wallet address: qfy7xl1whqcwwwjadlbm8jut9f

The second
Those larger wallets, 7777777,20000000.1000000
It's all Chinese investment institutions,
They spent millions of dollars buying these quarks
If it proves that it can bring everyone together
I can communicate with people who have these wallets
Let them move to another purse in your allotted time


Total nonsense.
Chinese Exchange classified this coin as Scam coin firstly and secondly like i wrote before its not BTC38 account.
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May 24, 2017, 04:45:49 PM
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I just proofed that you are a manipulator.
There is no chance that this account is from an exchange/BTC38





YOU DEFINETLY TOOK KOLINS PART

HAPPY SCAMMING ASSHOLE
Even if what you say is true
Tell me
You love to let everyone down
or Let everyone cheer
Telling the truth doesn't help us
Even a tyrant has a dead day
This is not just his own currency
Don't kill everyone because of one person
When we have a problem, we should try to solve it instead of avoiding it
If you can change your mind,You will have great success in the future

Try to join in quark


You have no clue what you are talking about.

You wanna know why Quark had no success ?Because of these scammers.Major investor don't invest in that coin since they know that this is a scam coin and that majority is being hold at these scammers.Quark had back in 2014 a real good chance to be #2 after Bitcoin however these fuckers distroyed the coin because of their greedy and they STOLE the money from thousands of people.
Who is delevoping that coin ?Max ?Who created the orphans to own the majority of coins Huh??You belive he is going just to give away his high amount of coins because you say so ? LOL
He had no issue to let Quark die at 2014 and also before 2014 so he won't also have a problem to let quark die in 2017/18

You wanna know why Chinese didnt invested in 2014 into Quark ?Because they analysed it and stated it as SCAM COIN !!!!!!!! Maybe we should talk about some hard facts.What changed since 2014 ?NOTHING ONLY THAT IT HAS BEEN PROOFED TO BE A SCAM COIN


Its nice to see how max

created the coin and used orphans and after that milked the young community and just left the coin.
After that coin went up again like all coins because of the bitcoin hype he suddently came back with Kolin.Kolin started to buy fake news and unethical recommendations for money from Bill Still and Max advertised to work on an update for Quark.Community rised quickly.Kolin started a hype using Bill Still and that Quark will be mentioned at Max Kaiser and that the price will sky rocket.
Max made a VERY POOR update.Max Kaiser named Quark when talking to Bill Still.Big Wallets started to dump coins and instead of a rising price it declined.People saw all the big wallets and how they dumped like on clocktime big amount of coins.Mainly when people were sleeping so they wouldn't see it.After that the community tried to start a hard fork to kill these wallets and to have a chance to get investors back and to stop milking the people from their money.Max and Kolin did everything to not let it happen.After that the community disappeared as it was clear nothing would ever change with Max and Kolins and the big wallets.
Price quickly went from $0.35 to under $0.01 and from there to nirvana.Max already disappeared again to his other coin as he had no interrest in Quark.

Now prices are going up again on all coins because of ATH from Bitcoin.All suddently Max is back again claiming to make an update.No talk about hard fork or the big accounts.

YEAH this all seems to be very legit and shows how Max is concered Quark to be a good coin.

Anybody investing in Quark after reading that must be one of the dumbest person in the world.You want to invest money to Quark ?You can send your money directly to the big wallet owners as there is no diffrence
You are wrong
I am a Chinese
Not investing in quarks in 2014 is not because we don't like quarks
It was the Chinese government that declared that the digital currency was not a currency,Banks are not allowed to open bank accounts for exchange platforms
People feared that the digital currency would die,Even bitcoin has fallen from 8,000 to 900RMB
We still have a lot of people who are bullish on quarks, but there's been no news lately
So I came here to help communicate
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May 24, 2017, 05:00:36 PM
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I just proofed that you are a manipulator.
There is no chance that this account is from an exchange/BTC38





YOU DEFINETLY TOOK KOLINS PART

HAPPY SCAMMING ASSHOLE
Even if what you say is true
Tell me
You love to let everyone down
or Let everyone cheer
Telling the truth doesn't help us
Even a tyrant has a dead day
This is not just his own currency
Don't kill everyone because of one person
When we have a problem, we should try to solve it instead of avoiding it
If you can change your mind,You will have great success in the future

Try to join in quark


You have no clue what you are talking about.

You wanna know why Quark had no success ?Because of these scammers.Major investor don't invest in that coin since they know that this is a scam coin and that majority is being hold at these scammers.Quark had back in 2014 a real good chance to be #2 after Bitcoin however these fuckers distroyed the coin because of their greedy and they STOLE the money from thousands of people.
Who is delevoping that coin ?Max ?Who created the orphans to own the majority of coins Huh??You belive he is going just to give away his high amount of coins because you say so ? LOL
He had no issue to let Quark die at 2014 and also before 2014 so he won't also have a problem to let quark die in 2017/18

You wanna know why Chinese didnt invested in 2014 into Quark ?Because they analysed it and stated it as SCAM COIN !!!!!!!! Maybe we should talk about some hard facts.What changed since 2014 ?NOTHING ONLY THAT IT HAS BEEN PROOFED TO BE A SCAM COIN


Its nice to see how max

created the coin and used orphans and after that milked the young community and just left the coin.
After that coin went up again like all coins because of the bitcoin hype he suddently came back with Kolin.Kolin started to buy fake news and unethical recommendations for money from Bill Still and Max advertised to work on an update for Quark.Community rised quickly.Kolin started a hype using Bill Still and that Quark will be mentioned at Max Kaiser and that the price will sky rocket.
Max made a VERY POOR update.Max Kaiser named Quark when talking to Bill Still.Big Wallets started to dump coins and instead of a rising price it declined.People saw all the big wallets and how they dumped like on clocktime big amount of coins.Mainly when people were sleeping so they wouldn't see it.After that the community tried to start a hard fork to kill these wallets and to have a chance to get investors back and to stop milking the people from their money.Max and Kolin did everything to not let it happen.After that the community disappeared as it was clear nothing would ever change with Max and Kolins and the big wallets.
Price quickly went from $0.35 to under $0.01 and from there to nirvana.Max already disappeared again to his other coin as he had no interrest in Quark.

Now prices are going up again on all coins because of ATH from Bitcoin.All suddently Max is back again claiming to make an update.No talk about hard fork or the big accounts.

YEAH this all seems to be very legit and shows how Max is concered Quark to be a good coin.

Anybody investing in Quark after reading that must be one of the dumbest person in the world.You want to invest money to Quark ?You can send your money directly to the big wallet owners as there is no diffrence
You are wrong
I am a Chinese
Not investing in quarks in 2014 is not because we don't like quarks
It was the Chinese government that declared that the digital currency was not a currency,Banks are not allowed to open bank accounts for exchange platforms
People feared that the digital currency would die,Even bitcoin has fallen from 8,000 to 900RMB
We still have a lot of people who are bullish on quarks, but there's been no news lately
So I came here to help communicate

Again total nonsense.
When Quark was classified as a Scam Coin from a Chinese Exchange there was no Ban of Bitcoin.
Quark was already at $0.01 as Bitcoin got banned from Chinese Government because of uncontrolled moneytransfer to china.However that was way after Quark was classified as Scam Coin by the chinese exchange.Anyone who needs proof read the posts on this board from 2014 and you will see a big discussion about that topic here why the chinese classified this coin as a scam coin

The result was that Quark has been classified as scam coin by the chinese exchange DUE TO BIG WALLETS AND UNFAIR DISTRIBUTION
Read the history and you will see it.


So any update or anything else you guys will do wont help as long as these wallets exist and you can trust me you won't kick Max out of that coin Smiley
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May 24, 2017, 05:15:32 PM
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Thule's  negative passion about QRK betrays his intentions.  For whatever motivations that remain his own, he is dead-set on bashing it and cannot be convinced that it is a worthwhile coin to develop and invest in.  He clearly wants to see QRK fail and could care less about the safety & well-being of prospective QRK investors.  
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May 24, 2017, 05:17:46 PM
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Thule's  negative passion about QRK betrays his intentions.  For whatever motivations that remain his own, he is dead-set on bashing it and cannot be convinced that it is a worthwhile coin to develop and invest in.  He clearly wants to see QRK fail and could care less about the safety & well-being of prospective QRK investors.  


I saw how Quark scammed thousand of people and won't let it happen a second time.
You wanna make quick big profit........go work at mcdonalds where you belong so you see how hard people need to work for their money you wanna scam them
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May 24, 2017, 05:36:47 PM
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Thule's  negative passion about QRK betrays his intentions.  For whatever motivations that remain his own, he is dead-set on bashing it and cannot be convinced that it is a worthwhile coin to develop and invest in.  He clearly wants to see QRK fail and could care less about the safety & well-being of prospective QRK investors.  


I saw how Quark scammed thousand of people and won't let it happen a second time.
You wanna make quick big profit........go work at mcdonalds where you belong so you see how hard people need to work for their money you wanna scam them
You can't help anyone here
If we don't work together
Are you paying for the loss of our people
The deception will be over
Only real technology can have a future

We may not be able to change your mind
what a pity
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May 24, 2017, 05:55:37 PM
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Did you even read my post ?

Second if you watch the link you provided you can see many wallets like 2.000.000 coins which last activity was like 800-1000 days ago.Exectly what i posted.
Third how about that account QfY7XL1whqcwWpLgY7EgnwjaDLbm8JuT9f which has 65.000.000 coins which is just 25.87 % of all coins.
And if you have a closer look you can bet on a high % that he owns more accounts like this one QTwT1Q5pLYfyX56RrD2i7z7VhWQLVWoasX with 3.000.000 coins and this one    QLjsTwNLhDXZ8kkGS3YHaDNQE2Xvn2xJ76  with 7.777.777 .Seems to be all owned by a single owner.
Thats already a total of 76.000.000 coins or arround 30% of all coins in a single guys hand.

Happy loosing your money


Thule, the 65,000,000 account will be BTC38, an exchange. Many of the smaller accounts could well be cold storage for an exchange. This is not proof.

You know somebody who doesnt want proof will always claim this.
If people have no brain go loose your money to Max and Kolin like the idiots (=ignorants) in the past who were to stupid to use their own brain and lost majority of their money.

If you guys are unable to see that scam its not my fault.However i will keep informing people here on that board that quark was and still is a scam coin and that majority of people owning quark will do anything even knowingly desinform people just so they invest their money to quark so they can gain a quick buck.

These kind of people have no honor at all and are just human junk


And to your claim about the 65.000.000 account.You really belive the last transaction for Quark on BTC38 was 50 days ago according to your explanation?
as for the 65M that is the btc38 wallet.

Also I was on the quark launch yes actually there mining. I can confirm it was a fair launch.



1. i was there and it was a fair launch i got a lot of coins my self mining on shit normal cpus. Over a few weeks I mined over 1 million coins.
2. max probably got hardly any coins or if he did he never hardly appeared or did any development he seemed to have no interest other than a hobby
3. colin started off okay but i think dumped after he got bill involved and then on purpose seemed to self destruct quark.

4 quark had a lot of honest decent people working in the foundation they were discouraged by all the infighting.

if anyone accumulated a lot of quark the fairly mined those quark against other miners.

If someone had an early gpu miner that is a different matter but i have heard no solid evidence to corroborate that theory.

the fact your conspiracy has btc38 involved with other people owning large wallets is a bad start.

Sit back and watch what happens next. I have a lot of faith in VIC he was one of the hardest working people along with coinmama and qrkFX.


You need solid corroborating evidence of scam I see none yet.

Of course there are big questions about why max just left quark to die. I suspect like i said he was unable to mine many coins and had no incentive. I hope he has since accumulated a good chunk and now has incentive to code this back to relevance.


BTC38 is the big wallet. Please understand this before you make yourself look more foolish.

However I will say one thing even when quark was at 30000 sats someone bought millions of qrk and never sold it. I wonder why and who  ?
Very strange.

People used to complain qrk had a quick pow timeframe.... now look ICO's sell out in minutes to themselves lol Smiley

Quark was an angel. I was there mining from the very start on a few pc's and go tons anyone could have. Of course stephen B got the lions share with his cpu farm.


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May 24, 2017, 06:31:28 PM
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You are aware that the people from the quark foundation left quark because of max and the big wallets right ?They tried to make a hard fork which was denied.So they started creating their own coin.
There were really great guys with a lot of positiv energy however after a certain time even they had to admit that Quark has no future with Max and these Wallets.

And if you say there is no Scam i guess you are aware that what Kolin and Bill Still did were ilegal by law wouldnt it be cryptocurrency which is not regulated.So would it be that kind of promotion for anything else than cryptocurrency both would be sitting in jail for this kind of action.

Also its not hidden.People can go read the first 20 sites of this thread how people complain getting oprhans at the early stage of mining.


And you see no scam ?So all the people from Bill Still who invested in Quark real money because of the paid recommendation of Bill Still to get after 2 months not even 1% back you don't call scam ?How do you call it bad luck ?


Yeah qrkfx with his nonsense "up to the moon" shit and destroying any legit question which was directed against Quark.
You know opinions from "fuckers" who are invested in Quark should be not counted at all.We have seen in the past the value of this kind of opions and support....where exectly these guys dumped their coins quickly to take out a profit knowing that somebody else will have to pay their bill


But maybe you can explain to me the diffrence between the old Jump and Dump Quark coin and todays Quark.Where is a diffrence ?
This coin would still be dead if there would be no new hype about bitcoin.
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May 24, 2017, 09:01:56 PM
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You are aware that the people from the quark foundation left quark because of max and the big wallets right ?They tried to make a hard fork which was denied.So they started creating their own coin.
There were really great guys with a lot of positiv energy however after a certain time even they had to admit that Quark has no future with Max and these Wallets.

And if you say there is no Scam i guess you are aware that what Kolin and Bill Still did were ilegal by law wouldnt it be cryptocurrency which is not regulated.So would it be that kind of promotion for anything else than cryptocurrency both would be sitting in jail for this kind of action.

Also its not hidden.People can go read the first 20 sites of this thread how people complain getting oprhans at the early stage of mining.


And you see no scam ?So all the people from Bill Still who invested in Quark real money because of the paid recommendation of Bill Still to get after 2 months not even 1% back you don't call scam ?How do you call it bad luck ?


Yeah qrkfx with his nonsense "up to the moon" shit and destroying any legit question which was directed against Quark.
You know opinions from "fuckers" who are invested in Quark should be not counted at all.We have seen in the past the value of this kind of opions and support....where exectly these guys dumped their coins quickly to take out a profit knowing that somebody else will have to pay their bill


But maybe you can explain to me the diffrence between the old Jump and Dump Quark coin and todays Quark.Where is a diffrence ?
This coin would still be dead if there would be no new hype about bitcoin.

Nobody is saying in the sense colin got bill to pump and then they exited and burned the coin is not a scam. However the release was not a scam I was mining on the release on normal cpus just quad core on my rigs and I mined over a million in the first weeks.

This proves anyone could have mined millions.

Simple as that.

How after this point people accumulated millions maybe when it was for say for 100sats for months and weeks is anyones guess.

The distribution was fair. End of story.

I look for fair initial distribution that is the most important part.

Sure if you allow them to whales will form in any community and they have power to make or break the coin.

As for the core leaving because of the huge wallets and max. I never heard this at all. Ask vic he is part of the old foundation.

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You are aware that the people from the quark foundation left quark because of max and the big wallets right ?They tried to make a hard fork which was denied.So they started creating their own coin.
There were really great guys with a lot of positiv energy however after a certain time even they had to admit that Quark has no future with Max and these Wallets.

And if you say there is no Scam i guess you are aware that what Kolin and Bill Still did were ilegal by law wouldnt it be cryptocurrency which is not regulated.So would it be that kind of promotion for anything else than cryptocurrency both would be sitting in jail for this kind of action.

Also its not hidden.People can go read the first 20 sites of this thread how people complain getting oprhans at the early stage of mining.


And you see no scam ?So all the people from Bill Still who invested in Quark real money because of the paid recommendation of Bill Still to get after 2 months not even 1% back you don't call scam ?How do you call it bad luck ?


Yeah qrkfx with his nonsense "up to the moon" shit and destroying any legit question which was directed against Quark.
You know opinions from "fuckers" who are invested in Quark should be not counted at all.We have seen in the past the value of this kind of opions and support....where exectly these guys dumped their coins quickly to take out a profit knowing that somebody else will have to pay their bill


But maybe you can explain to me the diffrence between the old Jump and Dump Quark coin and todays Quark.Where is a diffrence ?
This coin would still be dead if there would be no new hype about bitcoin.

Nobody is saying in the sense colin got bill to pump and then they exited and burned the coin is not a scam. However the release was not a scam I was mining on the release on normal cpus just quad core on my rigs and I mined over a million in the first weeks.

This proves anyone could have mined millions.

Simple as that.

How after this point people accumulated millions maybe when it was for say for 100sats for months and weeks is anyones guess.

The distribution was fair. End of story.

I look for fair initial distribution that is the most important part.

Sure if you allow them to whales will form in any community and they have power to make or break the coin.

As for the core leaving because of the huge wallets and max. I never heard this at all. Ask vic he is part of the old foundation.


"The distribution was fair. End of story."

Anybody can read the first 20 pages of that thread and see himself if it was fair.
Also the amount of coins which you could mine after 3-6 months were a joke.
It was even one of Quarks major problem and still is that there are no miners at all.Who is going to mine something what brings shit.
The people who pushed Quark and were its main supporters left creating another coin.
Another fact about the foundation was that they mainly got their coins from small investers were big wallets didnt contributed a single coin.
If you think Quark will ever reach its old status back than i can tell you its poor dreaming.Cryptocoderz havent a single successfull coin at all.Max update won't change anything about Quark.
You guys are just looking to make a quick buck.....however to make some big profit somebody else needs to loose big money.Thats how it works.

"As for the core leaving because of the huge wallets and max. I never heard this at all. Ask vic he is part of the old foundation"

You didn't heard a lot it seems.
They wanted to regulate the bad distribution (so not only a few would have the benefits) and big wallets by making a hard fork.This would have solve this issue.Max denied it even the whole community wanted to destroy these wallets.At the end the community even tried to work without Max and Kolin were they got pissed and tried to implement diffrent positions in the community just so the hard fork wouldn't happen.
The supporters got pissed and started working on their own coin without Max and Kolin.
You are looking for a community for Quark ?Really HuhHuhHuh?Or are you just looking how to get the most money out of your own Quarks ?
Why should a community participate in a coin which was already fully mined after such a short time ?Why should they invest their money so the main benefit will have a few people WHO DID NOTHING !!!!!! Huh?Explain this to me.
Anybody investing in Quark must be stupid.For that money it would be better to create its own coin


"Bill Still is of good character and he is an upright man. He was new to crypto back then just as we all were and I believe everyone has grown along the way and matured. But to claim he is dishonest is not right of you."

Bill Still didnt promoted Quark because he belived in Quark but because he became 1.000.000 coins from Kolin.This really looks like a good character.People lost their savings because of that but hey still a good character right ?Not selfish or ilegal at all right ?
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May 24, 2017, 10:19:33 PM
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"The distribution was fair. End of story."

Anybody can read the first 20 pages of that thread and see himself if it was fair.

To summarize the first 20 pages: "EntropyExtropy" a developer who worked for Quark in the early days (before I ever heard of Quark) already found out that Max and Kolin could not be trusted and Quark was very poorly distributed.
Unfortunately the investigations of his team are lost because the old quark forum is not working anymore. A short summary is described in this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=370657.msg3965567#msg3965567


"As for the core leaving because of the huge wallets and max. I never heard this at all. Ask vic he is part of the old foundation"


I don't think the last foundation group left because of the poor distribution of the wallets. At least it was not the main reason.
The main reason was 1. the scamming behavior of Kolin, and 2. Max only reacted to Kolin.
You can read the full story here why the last foundation group left:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781954.msg9007804#msg9007804

Later on I realized why Max was not very reactive.
That all started when an old Quark foundation member send me a youtube video of Bryce Weiner; In this video Bryce talked about Zeta, Myriad, nation coins...and guess who is the creator of all these coins: Max Wink
I smiled when somebody suggested something about "Guldencoin" a few days ago...Let's see what that will bring to Quark.

So..if you say Quark, then you also say ahmed_bodi, UNO scammers, Bryce Weiner, Kolin Evans...and they are just the tip of the iceberg.
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I don't think the last foundation group left because of the poor distribution of the wallets. At least it was not the main reason.



That was not the main reason.The main reason is that after they found out about these big wallets and also how Kolins sponsored Bill Still and the bad distribution they wanted to make a "HARD FORK" to fix it.

However as you can imagine Max and Kolin were against it and started many fights calling names even calling foundation members who were for a hard fork scammers and liars and no sayers who wants to destroy Quark.Since Max already at that time worked on another coin and people saw there is no real dev support or solution since max and kolin did everything to protect these wallets ,they started working on their own coin.
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"The distribution was fair. End of story."

Anybody can read the first 20 pages of that thread and see himself if it was fair.

To summarize the first 20 pages: "EntropyExtropy" a developer who worked for Quark in the early days (before I ever heard of Quark) already found out that Max and Kolin could not be trusted and Quark was very poorly distributed.
Unfortunately the investigations of his team are lost because the old quark forum is not working anymore. A short summary is described in this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=370657.msg3965567#msg3965567


"As for the core leaving because of the huge wallets and max. I never heard this at all. Ask vic he is part of the old foundation"


I don't think the last foundation group left because of the poor distribution of the wallets. At least it was not the main reason.
The main reason was 1. the scamming behavior of Kolin, and 2. Max only reacted to Kolin.
You can read the full story here why the last foundation group left:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781954.msg9007804#msg9007804


Silvermetal, thanks for the historical context. As I mentioned before, we are engaging additional developers in order to continue the work and have active development in additional directions. We have engaged with developers to this end - and the plan is to implement masternodes and decentralized governance. Decentralized governance removes the issue with centralized decision making and development that grounded Quark before. The merge mine coin was an unfortunate last attempt to salvage the situation as I saw the writing on the wall when the hashrate was critically low and the network was no longer secure. I will answer for that and apologize for my involvement, however, the options seemed few, and without network security there was never going to be a future for the coin, as investors saw the critical flaw in the coin, and there was never going to be a valuation of the coin that would be sufficient to supply enough hashrate to secure the network without substantial additional investment - which wasn't going to happen when there was a fundamental critical flaw which undermined trust. Again, the lack of development was the critical flaw - we are working to address this, which will be clear once the hybrid algorithm is released.
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May 24, 2017, 10:46:33 PM
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Nobody is going to tell me quark was not a fair release

I was mining from the start and was able to mine a lot on just normal quad core cpu on my rigs.


The short emission

well what about all those others with even shorter emissions? loads of them from mint, black ...the list is endless..

Short compared to ltc or btc yes
not compared to many others released then

foundation reasons for leaving - let them come and tell me here why... i bet it was all the drama kolin made and price crashing.
biggest waste of money was that crap game...how do we get our funds back? did they even use quark?

If the initial distribution is fair then you can never tell what happens after that. You could by these for 80 sats at one point so of course you can buy millions for nothing.

This is why i think max never mined any of them because he vanished and the coin sunk to shit after release. I nearly dumped all mine for 200 sats


Anyway there is no way you can point the finger at quark and not at 100 other coins for far worse bullshit.

Then these new insta icos raising 20M and keeping 90% - gns

Even the shittest pow launches are better than these ICOS

If you want to troll people for their personal actions then go ahead make it more personal in another thread. Quark is not them for all we know kolin is gone and it makes more sense that he is.

Anyway who are you? how are you privy to all this secret information nobody else knows about and that is not corroborated by anyone but you?

I will await to hear from vic is the foundation objected to these whales that in my books could not have obtained their quark in anything other than fairly on the market or fairly mining it.

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Am going to quote these posts here from entropyextropy

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I would suggest that people read http://forum.qrk.cc/post/8142

It's a collated post regarding all of the research that went in to the blockchain audit and the resultant findings.


What individuals on the outside don't see are the private forums/messages/irc logs from individuals who stepped up to the plate in order to get development started again. If you look at the codebase, you'll notice that there haven't been any commits to any files since the initial release in July, with the exception of the addition of a few seed nodes. If you compared the codebase to SIFcoin, Quark's predecessor, you'll find that the codebase is, in most cases, identical. This is the nature of altcoins, many of them are copies of one another.

I bring this up to clarify that there was no active development between release and last week. In our effort to get development started again, we tried to reach out to Kolin and Max. And they would pop up here and there, but were, in general either hard to get in touch with, or it was hard to get them to answer specific questions.

We know that Kolin bribed Bill Still; the thread is still on Bitcointalk. We know that the difficulty skyrocketed in the initial days and the growth curve indicates that half, if not more, of the coins were mined in the initial month. We know that there's a single mining pool that constitutes 90% of the network and that the multiple big-rig workers are, most likely, Kolin's. There are many, many circumstential factors that need to be rebutted, but they... haven't been.

I'll be glad to answer any questions that people have, either here or through PM.

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If you don't see that there's a technical forum full of pleas for people who are having issues with wallets, sending transactions, quark disappearing, etc., then it's easy to say that there's nothing to 'fix'. But, further, a coin's intrinsic value derives from continued development of that coin; the introduction of new features, refinements in client, etc. There was no active, forward development of quark.

I will say that development does not end with code improvement. Development extends to coordination and management, infrastructure improvements, public relations and branding, etc. None of which happened during the period between launch and November. When I stepped in to the Quark project, I helped to bootstrap community development while we frantically tried to find Max. I got our IRC development channels up and running, did outreach, did a code audit, pushed for and worked on the blockchain audit, etc.

I highly suggest you look at the audit of the blockchain. It's very telling. When we claim that 100 wallets (not people, wallets) holding 60% of the monetary supply isn't 'bad' because other coins are similar, we should also remember that other coins still have the prospect for participation in mining, whereas Quark does not.


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http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1su2aj/the_scam_behind_quarkcoin/
http://forum.qrk.cc/user/617
https://twitter.com/EntropyExtropy

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I'm hijacking the top thread just give my 2 cents. I became a dev of Quark two weeks ago because I wanted to help turn that ship around. A lot of honest people put their money into Quark at Bill Still's direction and I thought that it could be saved.

I pushed for an audit of the blockchain (http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/368/auditing-block-chain), and what we've found (http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/568/quark-faqs-compiling-fact-sheet) is incredibly disheartening. We lost a very dedicated member, who also happens to be a professional Forex investment manager, because he became convinced, like I have, that, not only are the fundamentals flawed, but the development, or lack thereof, of the project has been carried out in a very, very shady way.

I went to bat for the Quark project not because I believed that what Kolin was saying was true, but because I was willing to give the project the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, all of the quantifiable metrics have proven it to be just as it is. And it saddens me to say that, but it also bolsters my resolve because the community came together to, a) fix what could be fixed, b) prove what should be proved regardless of project allegiance.

Unfortunately, there is no 'fixing' the Quark project. Both Kolin and Max have disappeared again.

I want to point out that there's no problem with having alternate cryptocurrencies. If anything, the crypto-development community must mirror the Linux development community; forks and small projects experiment with features that the mainstays (in this case, Bitcoin) can't because of their industrial adoption. Cryptos are a good thing; scams and pump-and-dumps are not.

edit: I'm willing to talk more in depth to people about these issues should they want.

edit edit: I also want to say that the community came together in an astounding way to kickstart development, only to be, if not in word than in action, rebuffed by kolin and Max. The folks over at the quark forum have dedicated an inordinate amount of time on a volunteer basis doing what should otherwise be paid development (in PR/Branding/Graphics/Bug fixing) and it's an absolute shame that none of the 'large holders' of quark came out of the woodwork to support them. That says something.

The forex guy he is reffering to was my friend who was in the quark foundation and who really pushed quark hardly.He also was the guy who started the other currencies where many members followed him.

Have a look what Max is writing there in 2013.That he didnt disappeared and that he will keep working on Quark.Seems like he didnt anything for years Smiley but of course the other dev guy is the liar


And here a reply from Kolin

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They were a bunch of trolls (members of a alternate "Dev" team )  that Tricked Max into making them "mods" on the forum - its been fun , but now its over sadly  : (

oh well time to get on with the important work we were doing any way .....

it was entertaining watching them try as hard as they did but -  : D

i thought it would be better if we let them go ha ha -

guys thank you , i love this stuff , it make it all worth while -

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He is not any Dev he was just a troll that Max was tricked into making a Mod ,..

Would have got away with it too , if it wasn't for you meddling kids !

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OK so here is the Quark scheme for the noobs:

    Set a very high number of total coins.
    A few people mined 95% of all quarks in a very short period of time.
    Agreement among the early miners to hold on their coins except a very few for trading on the market.
    Give quarks to people with some decent audience (i.e. Bill Still + Max Keiser) so they can promote it.
    Resulting a high number of buyer on the market + very few coins available for trading = high market prices in a short period of time.
    High market prices X total mined coins (which 95% held by a small group of people) = super artificially high market capitalization.
    Newbies look on coinmarketcap.com and say "WOW quark is very promising!"
    Rinse and repeat 4-7
    Dump and profit.

Shame on all QuarkCoin promoters!
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OK so here is the Quark scheme for the noobs:

    Set a very high number of total coins. 250 million is not high
    A few people mined 95% of all quarks in a very short period of time. compared to what, are all short emission coins scams?
    Agreement among the early miners to hold on their coins except a very few for trading on the market. totally wrong it was all dumped down to 80sats for months loads available market saturated with it by miner dumpers
    Give quarks to people with some decent audience (i.e. Bill Still + Max Keiser) so they can promote it. I dont know but i dont see it matters paying people to promote the coin
    Resulting a high number of buyer on the market + very few coins available for trading = tons available for trading it crashed cryptsy
    High market prices X total mined coins (which 95% held by a small group of people) = super artificially high market capitalization. wrong unless nobody bought all the 80-200 sats coins that sat there for months
    Newbies look on coinmarketcap.com and say "WOW quark is very promising!"
    Rinse and repeat 4-7
    Dump and profit.




sorry there is little corroborating evidence for these statements.

lack of development killed it, actually there was no development after launch and dev just vanished because the mining release was fair and no premine.

POW emission should have been longer but was not a scam launch 100% for sure.

So far you have be PROVEN wrong on so many different points starting with the btc38 wallet being in collusion with other big wallets.
I have refuted nearly every point above.

If you have issues with the actions of some quarkers that is fine. I dont like how some things went down. However it was far from a scam release.

You need to be sensible and think it out no just machine gun accusations and provably false statements else you will have no credibility.

I think bill was probably paid to promote quark but eventually lack of development involvement and wasting time on crap like shaq games combined with kolin dumping out and then on purpose trying to crush quark.

I see honest miners and purchasers of quark as victims to some of these tactics and i see no reason to fud them now.

Max created quark then left it to die. This is not the actions of someone with millions of coins. Not much of what you say makes any logical sense at all. If i managed to grab a ton of coins i would do what was required to get it pumped so i could exit. Not let it die down to nothing before kolin managed to get a pump out of it.

Kolin i hope is gone. The fact he crushed quark as he left tells me he had no quark left to dump. Hopefully he is gone for good although without him perhaps nobody would have ever heard of quark.

Be constructive or at least bring FACTS and EVIDENCE to support your statements and allegations.

If you are trying to warm people then bring the truth

Yes kolin is bad stay away
Yes max left it to die because he had no incentive to work on a project he had no coins for.
Yes shaq fu was a waste of time
Yes bill still promoted it... i think he believed kolins crap that it solved btcs issues. I mean some of his investors must have got rekt so he would not have done that on purpose.
Yes there are probably some quark whales although I would love to analysis on these wallets. I wonder if these whales bought at the top or bottom. Either way it makes no difference because if initial distribution is a fair pow release then you can only attain coins by mining fairly or buying fairly.
If you want to become a whale and have to compete against others fairly you are rightfully a whale and can act as you choose best for yourself. That is your right if you got to your position in a fair way.

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May 24, 2017, 11:26:42 PM
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i know a guy who had totally luckily put his last handful of btc on quark around oct 2013 and had $2mm in quark by dec 2013. he was literally sleeping on a couch. for some reason he hardly sold any.  Huh Huh did give me a few..

i think his friends dumped it eventually.

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OK so here is the Quark scheme for the noobs:

    Set a very high number of total coins. 250 million is not high
    A few people mined 95% of all quarks in a very short period of time. compared to what, are all short emission coins scams?
    Agreement among the early miners to hold on their coins except a very few for trading on the market. totally wrong it was all dumped down to 80sats for months loads available market saturated with it by miner dumpers
    Give quarks to people with some decent audience (i.e. Bill Still + Max Keiser) so they can promote it. I dont know but i dont see it matters paying people to promote the coin
    Resulting a high number of buyer on the market + very few coins available for trading = tons available for trading it crashed cryptsy
    High market prices X total mined coins (which 95% held by a small group of people) = super artificially high market capitalization. wrong unless nobody bought all the 80-200 sats coins that sat there for months
    Newbies look on coinmarketcap.com and say "WOW quark is very promising!"
    Rinse and repeat 4-7
    Dump and profit.




sorry there is little corroborating evidence for these statements.

lack of development killed it, actually there was no development after launch and dev just vanished because the mining release was fair and no premine.

POW emission should have been longer but was not a scam launch 100% for sure.

So far you have be PROVEN wrong on so many different points starting with the btc38 wallet being in collusion with other big wallets.
I have refuted nearly every point above.

If you have issues with the actions of some quarkers that is fine. I dont like how some things went down. However it was far from a scam release.

You need to be sensible and think it out no just machine gun accusations and provably false statements else you will have no credibility.

I think bill was probably paid to promote quark but eventually lack of development involvement and wasting time on crap like shaq games combined with kolin dumping out and then on purpose trying to crush quark.

I see honest miners and purchasers of quark as victims to some of these tactics and i see no reason to fud them now.

Max created quark then left it to die. This is not the actions of someone with millions of coins. Not much of what you say makes any logical sense at all. If i managed to grab a ton of coins i would do what was required to get it pumped so i could exit. Not let it die down to nothing before kolin managed to get a pump out of it.

Kolin i hope is gone. The fact he crushed quark as he left tells me he had no quark left to dump. Hopefully he is gone for good although without him perhaps nobody would have ever heard of quark.

Be constructive or at least bring FACTS and EVIDENCE to support your statements and allegations.

If you are trying to warm people then bring the truth

Yes kolin is bad stay away
Yes max left it to die because he had no incentive to work on a project he had no coins for.
Yes shaq fu was a waste of time
Yes bill still promoted it... i think he believed kolins crap that it solved btcs issues. I mean some of his investors must have got rekt so he would not have done that on purpose.
Yes there are probably some quark whales although I would love to analysis on these wallets. I wonder if these whales bought at the top or bottom. Either way it makes no difference because if initial distribution is a fair pow release then you can only attain coins by mining fairly or buying fairly.
If you want to become a whale and have to compete against others fairly you are rightfully a whale and can act as you choose best for yourself. That is your right if you got to your position in a fair way.





Yeah defending yourself for the scam ?

You know i remeber the name vic but didnt know exectly from where and just checked.It was the guy who created with Kolin the other coin where they wanted to premine it for 6 weeks before anouncing it and which went public......yeah i remember vic however i dont give shit for his word.He coworked with Kolin to much.BTW its not even his real name.
Or how Kolin trained them to scam


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On 28/05/2014 12:41 pm, "Kopimi cam" <@gmail.com> wrote: I'd like to get us all out of "working hard" and into working smarter.
Now that's not as hard as it sounds and its not as hard work.
This can be done in a number of ways.
What is the aim ?
To make us all 100%s of gains, and to have fun, then to optionally put some of that profit into a Quark reserve just because at this level QRK is much more likely to double than BTC.
So we can individually use as much or little capital as we have and as long as we work as a team it will work just fine.
*So whats the plan ? *
Anything and everything.
I propose we find beaten down "dead" currency and we use coders I know or anyone we know to undertake "revitalization".
we might find xxx coin.
We identify fundamental reasons why it's very low , they have to be fundamental and good I can do this but any one can identify them.
It must be beaten down and worthless % wise. I.e no one wants this junk.
We decide we are going take it on.
So we SLOWLY buy up this junk for say 3 satoshi For example or maybe it's 70 satoshi that all depends on the cap amount I can teach you this easily.
Then we hire our dev and pay him that same junk with the obvious profit that will be realized, which should cost is next to nothing . I'm talking a few LTC in some cases .
Then we " pimp that ride " .
We can :
- change the name - change the logo - even cut the currency reward - add spammy PoS ( people love it ) - cause a "Buzz" * *- get trolled even troll ourselves because that will generate interest.
Point is we don't want to take over the world we just want a few 100% gains .
Then we set a target and get back out realizing profit, which if we all do we should be able to easy enough.
That's just for beginnings , I can fill you in on a hilarious "master" plan that you guys willl definitely laugh at when you hear it.
But also apart from this we can make our own brand new currency , we can make X11 or Scrypt we can make the new Doge if you like all in the name of dumping that shit onto the market to make us money So are we getting the general jist?
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Kopimi cam <kop***ency@gmail.com> wrote: and the result is amazing !!!!!
there is so much volume - (as we trade back and forth with ourselves - ) and its being bid up so much ! (as we decide to bid it up)
no one can sell it because we own it all - now what happens Quark synergy has a massive market cap ! - this is amazing - ! how did it become so popular ?
this causes people to want to buy - and optional - you slowly sell out to them - that would be the last part of the scam -



Or the confirmation That Kolin and Max are working together from the beginning.......ohhh yeah the MAX who is updating currently Quark
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Yeah defending yourself for the scam ?

I don't understand the question.

I am presenting provable and observable events. These are factual. People can read and judge for themselves. However I just refuted all of your points above so this is now time for you to realise those statements you made are false or at the very best unprovable.

If you say kolin is bad - i agree although once i thought he was good for quark but he turned evil after dumping his coins out.
If you say max created quark then just left it to dwindle and perish - i agree.
If you say quark was pumped by whales (who got their coins by mining or buying in fair competition) then dumped and left to die - i agree

Everything else you say i do not agree and i have presented observable events to validate why i disagree.

If you are talking about that meme coin or whatever kolin tried to bring out. That i condemned for the scam piece of crap it was.

You need to bring proof and corroborate you statements else they can be viewed as suspect or false. Please understand this point.


Answer these questions.

1. do you now realise you are wrong about the btc38 wallet colluding with these other big wallets?

2. do you now realise quark was a fair pow release by all measurable standards with the transparency we have to hand

3. do you now realise quark was available in huge quantities for months for practically nothing

4. do you now realise there was no way to obtain quark other than mine in fair competition or buy in fair competition

5. do you realise a lot of people holding quark right now bought and mined fairly?

6. do you realise every criticism you can have for quark there are multitudes of coins that can have these leveled at them and far worse


Please answer these so that I may understand that you are taking effort to analyse the observable facts I am presenting to you and can be corroborated by research you can do in your free time.


Please explain clearly and in detail if you are not able to answer these questions. Also explain your answers so that i may assist you in gaining the knowledge that I will freely bestow upon you but for the asking. You may have questions I can not answer but am willing to explore those with you.


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