[ANN] [QRK] Quark | Core 0.10 upgrade

[Max Guevara]

Thanks for all the input and offers of support.

Many ideas have been floated here, most of them good. We will have to prioritize what is most important for Quark at this stage.

My feeling is that some kind of POS/POW hybrid would improve the security of the network and should be the first priority.

I would like to focus my time on investigation the technical issues with the different POS implementations before going ahead.

I also support some other ideas bought up here like on-chain governance and master nodes, but this could be next steps.

There are many ways to contribute so please post your ideas here or in slack.

[mcphervi]

Thanks for all the input and offers of support.

Many ideas have been floated here, most of them good. We will have to prioritize what is most important for Quark at this stage.

My feeling is that some kind of POS/POW hybrid would improve the security of the network and should be the first priority.

I would like to focus my time on investigation the technical issues with the different POS implementations before going ahead.

I also support some other ideas bought up here like on-chain governance and master nodes, but this could be next steps.

There are many ways to contribute so please post your ideas here or in slack.

Max, it is very nice to see you back here after all this time. I am definitely happy to see these ideas being seriously considered as concrete next steps for the coin - it at one time had a very rich ecosystem surrounding it, and it would be nice to see that again. I very much look forward to discussing further on next steps and look forward to the necessary changes being implemented. I agree wholeheartedly now, as I did then, that blockchain security is the primary consideration, but would definitely agree with the above commentators that many further additions, such as master nodes, etc should be under serious consideration to be implemented to modernize the coin.

[cryptohunter]

Thanks for all the input and offers of support.

Many ideas have been floated here, most of them good. We will have to prioritize what is most important for Quark at this stage.

My feeling is that some kind of POS/POW hybrid would improve the security of the network and should be the first priority.

I would like to focus my time on investigation the technical issues with the different POS implementations before going ahead.

I also support some other ideas bought up here like on-chain governance and master nodes, but this could be next steps.

There are many ways to contribute so please post your ideas here or in slack.

Max, it is very nice to see you back here after all this time. I am definitely happy to see these ideas being seriously considered as concrete next steps for the coin - it at one time had a very rich ecosystem surrounding it, and it would be nice to see that again. I very much look forward to discussing further on next steps and look forward to the necessary changes being implemented. I agree wholeheartedly now, as I did then, that blockchain security is the primary consideration, but would definitely agree with the above commentators that many further additions, such as master nodes, etc should be under serious consideration to be implemented to modernize the coin.

Indeed great to see some old qrk faces coming back. Anyone still have links to any of the other old qrk foundation members?

First thing we could do at once is go for blocknet addition. We are suitable now are we not ? not all coins can be added there as simply as qrk can.

I think it will get more difficult to get added there as time goes on and the effect of being added will not be so great after a time.

Max could you express interest to them in getting added?

[mcphervi]

Thanks for all the input and offers of support.

Many ideas have been floated here, most of them good. We will have to prioritize what is most important for Quark at this stage.

My feeling is that some kind of POS/POW hybrid would improve the security of the network and should be the first priority.

I would like to focus my time on investigation the technical issues with the different POS implementations before going ahead.

I also support some other ideas bought up here like on-chain governance and master nodes, but this could be next steps.

There are many ways to contribute so please post your ideas here or in slack.

Max, it is very nice to see you back here after all this time. I am definitely happy to see these ideas being seriously considered as concrete next steps for the coin - it at one time had a very rich ecosystem surrounding it, and it would be nice to see that again. I very much look forward to discussing further on next steps and look forward to the necessary changes being implemented. I agree wholeheartedly now, as I did then, that blockchain security is the primary consideration, but would definitely agree with the above commentators that many further additions, such as master nodes, etc should be under serious consideration to be implemented to modernize the coin.

Indeed great to see some old qrk faces coming back. Anyone still have links to any of the other old qrk foundation members?

First thing we could do at once is go for blocknet addition. We are suitable now are we not ? not all coins can be added there as simply as qrk can.

I think it will get more difficult to get added there as time goes on and the effect of being added will not be so great after a time.

Max could you express interest to them in getting added?

I haven't talked to any of them for quite some time, unfortunately. I've been gone from this space aside from a little bit of trading for some time so would have to defer the blocknet question to Max.

[cryptohunter]

I wonder if quarkFX is still around and coinmama

these guys were awesome. I hope they hop back on this train now there is a low point of entry.

[mcphervi]

I wonder if quarkFX is still around and coinmama

these guys were awesome. I hope they hop back on this train now there is a low point of entry.

Agree - they both worked tirelessly and selflessly for Quark, and their contributions were very appreciated.

[rdfd1217]

 Can we please post the new wallet updates on https://quarktalk.cc/  A lot of new Quarkers go to this website to get information. But unfortunately it hasn't been updated. This is a valuable resource that we should take advantage of and get the word out about the new wallet.

[mcphervi]

Thanks for all the input and offers of support.

Many ideas have been floated here, most of them good. We will have to prioritize what is most important for Quark at this stage.

My feeling is that some kind of POS/POW hybrid would improve the security of the network and should be the first priority.

I would like to focus my time on investigation the technical issues with the different POS implementations before going ahead.

I also support some other ideas bought up here like on-chain governance and master nodes, but this could be next steps.

There are many ways to contribute so please post your ideas here or in slack.

Max, it is very nice to see you back here after all this time. I am definitely happy to see these ideas being seriously considered as concrete next steps for the coin - it at one time had a very rich ecosystem surrounding it, and it would be nice to see that again. I very much look forward to discussing further on next steps and look forward to the necessary changes being implemented. I agree wholeheartedly now, as I did then, that blockchain security is the primary consideration, but would definitely agree with the above commentators that many further additions, such as master nodes, etc should be under serious consideration to be implemented to modernize the coin.

Indeed great to see some old qrk faces coming back. Anyone still have links to any of the other old qrk foundation members?

First thing we could do at once is go for blocknet addition. We are suitable now are we not ? not all coins can be added there as simply as qrk can.

I think it will get more difficult to get added there as time goes on and the effect of being added will not be so great after a time.

Max could you express interest to them in getting added?

Great news for Quark and what a great coin to innovate with. Exciting times ahead and lots of work to be done. I will be informing some friends of mine of the news today.


Shall we form a new foundation, some of the old members may decide they want to be apart of it again and if so that would be an asset.

I like the enthusiasm, but lets maybe let things grow organically here and work together to slowly grow things and rebuild.

Edit: Part of the reason I say this, is I really believe that Quark was best when the whole community was engaged and active, and productive. Towards the end, the Foundation and Quark Universe were active, however they were doing a huge amount of work behind the scenes, but the rest of the community waited to see what they would do rather than being actively engaged. I think having one leadership group creates a sense that individuals can't possibly achieve what the groups can achieve and creates a bit of divide. I think to work, an active community needs to grow.

[cryptohunter]

Thanks for all the input and offers of support.

Many ideas have been floated here, most of them good. We will have to prioritize what is most important for Quark at this stage.

My feeling is that some kind of POS/POW hybrid would improve the security of the network and should be the first priority.

I would like to focus my time on investigation the technical issues with the different POS implementations before going ahead.

I also support some other ideas bought up here like on-chain governance and master nodes, but this could be next steps.

There are many ways to contribute so please post your ideas here or in slack.

Max, it is very nice to see you back here after all this time. I am definitely happy to see these ideas being seriously considered as concrete next steps for the coin - it at one time had a very rich ecosystem surrounding it, and it would be nice to see that again. I very much look forward to discussing further on next steps and look forward to the necessary changes being implemented. I agree wholeheartedly now, as I did then, that blockchain security is the primary consideration, but would definitely agree with the above commentators that many further additions, such as master nodes, etc should be under serious consideration to be implemented to modernize the coin.

Indeed great to see some old qrk faces coming back. Anyone still have links to any of the other old qrk foundation members?

First thing we could do at once is go for blocknet addition. We are suitable now are we not ? not all coins can be added there as simply as qrk can.

I think it will get more difficult to get added there as time goes on and the effect of being added will not be so great after a time.

Max could you express interest to them in getting added?

Great news for Quark and what a great coin to innovate with. Exciting times ahead and lots of work to be done. I will be informing some friends of mine of the news today.


Shall we form a new foundation, some of the old members may decide they want to be apart of it again and if so that would be an asset.

I like the enthusiasm, but lets maybe let things grow organically here and work together to slowly grow things and rebuild.

Edit: Part of the reason I say this, is I really believe that Quark was best when the whole community was engaged and active, and productive. Towards the end, the Foundation and Quark Universe were active, however they were doing a huge amount of work behind the scenes, but the rest of the community waited to see what they would do rather than being actively engaged. I think having one leadership group creates a sense that individuals can't possibly achieve what the groups can achieve and creates a bit of divide. I think to work, an active community needs to grow.

the main issue right now is that there is no community left this thread was dead for nearly 2 years and right now there is perhaps 5 people checking in.

If max officially announces an upgrade to a version of masternode POS with a governance system and dev funding you would see quark price rocket and then the community would start to build.

I only hope the right people find out first and make sure they have the motivation to help with the project.

I know a lot of the old foundation dumped and left would be good for them to reenter now and get some incentives to help rebuild.

Primarily we need a team who works under max that is funded by the dev tax.

Getting on blocknet now would also be a good jump start and free marketing.

[mcphervi]

I agree with your concept of people being apart of the whole community in a perfect world scenario. But we are far from being in a perfect world and if we have all learned one thing during this crypto evolution, it that people will and do stand by and watch other people and wait to see rather than being actively involved. This is partly due to not being able nor comprehending the tasks at hand that require  attending to but mainly due to lazy human nature.

This is why we have seen the progressive emergence of masternode governance and block tax to fund the developers to give consideration to the work and achievements performed. Without this consideration it is impossible in our current human nature to perform and innovate as we all demand consideration for our time. This is truth.

I would love to see the organic growth of this community. But I also understand that passiveness in this space will not be tolerated and we will be eaten up and left behind. We need an aggressive take the bull by the horns, lets make it happen today mentality and innovate continually into the future.

We can always be an open source lets get everyone engaged community and I love this concept. But this is the "Purist" mentality much like the "Purist Proof of Work Mentality" we all love proof of work but we know without the network being viable to mine it does not matter how "secure your algorithm is" without the "INCENTIVE"   again   "human nature" its going to come to the same negative conclusion, not because of the technology, but because of human nature. This is why I believe POS/POW hybrid is the way forward as it gives us a remedy.

Lets get busy.

  

My first couple posts may have seemed a little esoteric/purist, but I am definitely a pragmatist.

I totally agree on the issue of block tax, etc to fund development and for individuals to earn profits from masternodes, etc. I also agree on the POW issues and the lack of funding for the miners - the network hashrate fell along with the block rewards decreasing, as would be expected - which meant that the network security was put at risk. I agree that everyone acts in self interest and I strongly believe that in order to make a viable system you need ways in which you can self fund, encourage development and encourage re-investment into the coin and community. If the only way in which you can spend your coins is to purchase items/services externally, and there is no incentive to reinvest money into the ecosystem, then there is a constant draw of money out of the coin, which then results in collapse. This notably creates a scenario where the only way to realize return on an investment is to encourage/find additional buyers at a higher price point.

I agree that a lot of work needs to be done, and innovation is the way forward - I think my point was more that establishing a guiding central governance body this early might stifle people from getting involved. I'm all for people taking leadership roles and taking the bull by the horns to get things moving forward.

[mcphervi]

the main issue right now is that there is no community left this thread was dead for nearly 2 years and right now there is perhaps 5 people checking in.

If max officially announces an upgrade to a version of masternode POS with a governance system and dev funding you would see quark price rocket and then the community would start to build.

I only hope the right people find out first and make sure they have the motivation to help with the project.

I know a lot of the old foundation dumped and left would be good for them to reenter now and get some incentives to help rebuild.

Primarily we need a team who works under max that is funded by the dev tax.

Getting on blocknet now would also be a good jump start and free marketing.

See my other response - totally agree that community building requires some incentive to become involved, and something productive to do with the coins rather than have their value exit the system. I am all for masternode POS, dev funding, etc.

The old foundation really didn't have many/any coins to dump, at least the one I was a part of. We all entered at around the historic high - which meant that we were all self financing the development work as there was no development funding aside from some donated to the foundation, the value of which shrank quickly. This scenario wasn't tenable which is why I am completely on board with a shift to a self financing model for the coin as part of the necessary rebuild.

Re: Blocknet - sounds like a good idea. Why don't you reach out and see if they're interested?

[p3ppymon]

How much would be the minimum to get started again? Any order of magnitude?

[mcphervi]

How much would be the minimum to get started again? Any order of magnitude?

Not sure I understand your question? Just to be clear - I'm not asking for any money, nor for any sympathy, etc. I'm simply discussing the economics and realities of what happened 3 years ago as a means of trying to start a discussion on how to best avoid the same issues from recurring.

I would love to see nothing more than for Quark to return to its place among the leaders in the field - it was always my intention when I was working on it in the past to try to establish something enduring.

[mcphervi]

This team of developers seem like the perfect fit for the changes that need to be made to Quark http://cryptocoderz.com/index.html
They have just been through it with changing Quark algo to POW/POS hybrid and that experience can be utilized and we should definitely seek to contract these guys and Max oversee as head developer.

I have sent them a letter expressing our move forward with POW/POS hybrid and have asked if they are willing to be contracted for development of such. I will let you know when I hear back from them concerning this.

this is a couple of their Quark Algo blockchains.

http://cryptocoderz.com/020london.html

http://cryptocoderz.com/espers.html

Very interesting - one of the major issues we had back in 2014 is that we had a tonne of great ideas that we simply didn't have the manpower to execute. I was talking with cryptohunter, and he let me know about the fact that there are now a lot more developers to hire to help out with projects. This really makes a great deal of difference to have this sort of backup for Max. If we can shift to a self-funding model, this could ensure that there is constant self development and innovation, and takes a lot of the onus for development away from being placed on one man's shoulders - most people in this space, at least when I was active, were doing this is their spare time, and its difficult to shoulder the full load I'd imagine.

[p3ppymon]

I have upgraded the wallets (v0.10.4.2 64 bit). 
I have just noticed that I have found a block from the pop out window. However, the available and pending balance are still 0!
Any reason?

[Mr. Green]

c'Moon! Let's make Quark great again!

Damn what a nightmare was this. Brings back memories. R.I.P.

[mcphervi]

c'Moon! Let's make Quark great again!

Damn what a nightmare was this. Brings back memories. R.I.P.

Some of it was good (the people that I worked with were tremendous people that were committed to furthering the project for the betterment of the community), and some of it was.. difficult. I think its worth a revisit if it can be built up again with talented and committed people behind it.

[cryptohunter]

The advantages we have are

1. quark is a famous coin with lots of history.
2. quark has now gone from zero to hero and zero again - the distribution now is wide and i think a great majority was on btc38 too so lots of interest from all over.
3. quark does have a real coder designer as captain
4. the quark algo is already used and modified to pos and governance models and works perfectly...although still some work to do
5. a LOT of quark is gone from this market until 20k sats or greater. Bill brought in many outside investors and whilst qrk was 10-30k volume was huge for back then and these are the types of investors that are used to waiting years for returns but will not sell at a loss.
6. if we can reform the quark foundation and get max to come in on this we have some of the most inventive leadership ive seen here before.



when a coin is large and has been famous before and revolutionary for its time it is totally acceptable and infact almost inevitable it will make a come back. This is also a powerful force.

We need to get a road map put out sooner than later now....i too believe time is the biggest factor here.

Just announcing and they still have not done it...MUE went from 100sats to 5k sats.

Quark needs to announce a road map right now if we are going to do this. Qrk should have never been reduced to what it is now ever in the first place.

[Mr. Green]

The advantages we have are

1. quark is a famous coin with lots of history.

Being the shittiest pump and dump coin doesn't sound like an advantage to me.

[p3ppymon]

I have upgraded the wallets (v0.10.4.2 64 bit). 
I have just noticed that I have found a block from the pop out window. However, the available and pending balance are still 0!
Any reason?

It just happened again! Still the balance is zero!