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Author Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s  (Read 875470 times)
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October 14, 2013, 08:06:45 AM
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That is a long ways out.  They got themselves covered by having you pay a lot up front then and you getting little in return later for all that extra hashrate which doesn't come till much later.

IM not saying it will take them that long, but clearly the ToS protect Hashfast far better than the MPP protects its customers.
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October 14, 2013, 08:09:21 AM
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What I think Paladin69 is trying to say is that HF has clearly showed us that is really outstanding from other asic manufactures by having nice contracts with the best factorys out there, the MPP , having the software prepared in andvance...but we are really close to what they marked as "time to ship" the units and we still havent seen any photo. Not the case, not the pcbs, not even any other part as the cooling solution that they have been simulating with. For the moment as a customer I  want to believe

I saw what you wrote earlier so I screamed at them earlier today. They promised me they will have pictures for you soon.

I'm surprised more haven't been screaming for actual photos since you're close to Oct 20th.
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October 14, 2013, 08:11:28 AM
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That is a long ways out.  They got themselves covered by having you pay a lot up front then and you getting little in return later for all that extra hashrate which doesn't come till much later.

IM not saying it will take them that long, but clearly the ToS protect Hashfast far better than the MPP protects its customers.

It is kinda strange.  You'd be better off buying two units up front without MPP than buying one with MPP.
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October 14, 2013, 08:14:49 AM
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The BabyJet has room for only 2 modules in total (as that maxes out the Raspberry Pi), you need to upgrade the old power supply as well (which is included in the expansion upgrade you bought).
If the full MPP kicks in, you would get 4 extra modules so you will need to look for an extra case, power supply and a cgminer running CPU (rPi, PC, laptop) with a USB connector for each module

Besides, the MPP modules will only ship out in 2014, you'll get your bought expansion board in December

This isn't right.

It doesn't max out Raspi, it maxes out space. Remember the cool thing about the modules is that they daisy chain together. This is why in the Sierra you can string 3 modules together with 1USB feed to an external controller of your choice.

Sure, it maxes out space, cooling and power supply in the (beefed up) BabyJet, but it will also push the rPi to it's limits so that is why HF in PM recommends:

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We don't want to risk overloading the limited resources of a Raspberry Pi by running more than two mini-boards (formerly 'modules') off one of them.

So we recommend something more powerful for one or more Sierras.

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October 14, 2013, 08:22:46 AM
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Sure, it maxes out space, cooling and power supply in the (beefed up) BabyJet, but it will also push the rPi to it's limits so that is why HF in PM recommends:

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We don't want to risk overloading the limited resources of a Raspberry Pi by running more than two mini-boards (formerly 'modules') off one of them.

So we recommend something more powerful for one or more Sierras.



Well, there is an inconsistency in what they've written as there is 2 versus 3 modules in a BJ versus a Sierra.

Amy has assured me that the Sierra can be run by a Raspi. If not, use an old laptop.
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October 14, 2013, 08:33:34 AM
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So this will be interesting.

Because I'm already repackaging my BJ's as sierras because of space considerations, you will be able to use me as an experiment to work these issues out such as what a Raspi may or may not be able to handle. Sounds like 3 modules right now or one per Sierra. I'll run that by engineering.

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October 14, 2013, 10:49:25 AM
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What I think Paladin69 is trying to say is that HF has clearly showed us that is really outstanding from other asic manufactures by having nice contracts with the best factorys out there, the MPP , having the software prepared in andvance...but we are really close to what they marked as "time to ship" the units and we still havent seen any photo. Not the case, not the pcbs, not even any other part as the cooling solution that they have been simulating with. For the moment as a customer I  want to believe

I saw what you wrote earlier so I screamed at them earlier today. They promised me they will have pictures for you soon.

I'm surprised more haven't been screaming for actual photos since you're close to Oct 20th.

We are not screaming for actual photos because we are not KnC FUD-spreaders like you and Puppet. Anyone can click on the "last posts" in the profiles of both of you and see that you are heavily shilling for KnC in their thread, and came here to spread FUD. Unlike KnC who are assembling their products in empty warehouse, HashFast has contracted the factory which will assemble and deliver all 500 batch #1 machines in half a day. Since they have 1200 units capacity a day, they will be probably be over with batch #2 on the first day of production before going home for dinner. Have KnC assembled their batch #1 now, two weeks later? I thought so. Since HF stated it will take 5 days from receiving chips to production day, it makes no sense to ask for pictures of chips since they aren't any, they should be in HF headquarters on 26-27th October for delivery to be in October. Asking for photos before that date makes no sense.

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October 14, 2013, 11:26:18 AM
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Seeing how few KnC units blowup I have to ask: where does it say anything about the warranty on HasFast products?

I bought 2 units, but forgot to look it up and can't find any info on warranty.

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October 14, 2013, 12:10:24 PM
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. Anyone can click on the "last posts" in the profiles of both of you and see that you are heavily shilling for KnC in their thread,
wait, what lol? me a knc shill?
rofl. please post my best knc cheerleading and I will temporarily unignore you.
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October 14, 2013, 12:43:08 PM
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. Anyone can click on the "last posts" in the profiles of both of you and see that you are heavily shilling for KnC in their thread,
wait, what lol? me a knc shill?
rofl. please post my best knc cheerleading and I will temporarily unignore you.


How did you see that when I'm on your ignore list? You don't recall organizing ignore-raid on anyone who dared to say anything realistic about KnC on their thread? I got my yellow tag because of people like you.

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October 14, 2013, 12:44:17 PM
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Seeing how few KnC units blowup I have to ask: where does it say anything about the warranty on HasFast products?

I bought 2 units, but forgot to look it up and can't find any info on warranty.
I've read in this thread that there is a 10 day.

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October 14, 2013, 01:26:53 PM
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HashFast will be providing all MPP customers (Batches 1, 2, and 3) with additional ASICs in the form of complete mini-boards.


I really appreciate this, thank you. It's good to see an ASIC company that recognizes, that their first customers took the greatest risks and paid the most.
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October 14, 2013, 02:18:38 PM
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Remember the cool thing about the modules is that they daisy chain together.

Not saying this is or isn't true but, you are the only person that has claimed this will be possible.  There haven't been any postings from HF accounts in this thread at least claiming they will work this way.

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October 14, 2013, 02:33:03 PM
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Thanks for reporting on the specifications of the power supply.

What are the specifications of liquid cooling equipment?

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October 14, 2013, 02:59:01 PM
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Well, there is an inconsistency in what they've written as there is 2 versus 3 modules in a BJ versus a Sierra.

Amy has assured me that the Sierra can be run by a Raspi. If not, use an old laptop.

Frankly I don't really care that much, those rPi are so cheap and small that I don't mind adding one for each module

It's just the cable mess that increases with all those power supplies...
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October 14, 2013, 04:34:51 PM
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Well, there is an inconsistency in what they've written as there is 2 versus 3 modules in a BJ versus a Sierra.

Amy has assured me that the Sierra can be run by a Raspi. If not, use an old laptop.

Frankly I don't really care that much, those rPi are so cheap and small that I don't mind adding one for each module

It's just the cable mess that increases with all those power supplies...

just talked to Simon.

don't go out and buy a bunch of Raspis.  you may need far less than even i anticipated.
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October 14, 2013, 04:35:14 PM
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Remember the cool thing about the modules is that they daisy chain together.

Not saying this is or isn't true but, you are the only person that has claimed this will be possible.  There haven't been any postings from HF accounts in this thread at least claiming they will work this way.

you don't have to believe me but...
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October 14, 2013, 04:58:23 PM
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Remember the cool thing about the modules is that they daisy chain together.

Not saying this is or isn't true but, you are the only person that has claimed this will be possible.  There haven't been any postings from HF accounts in this thread at least claiming they will work this way.
you don't have to believe me but...

Even if you can daisy chain them the maximum number of USB devices a computer can support is 127 which sounds like a lot but many physical devices have multiple logical USB devices within them so if the things can be daisy chained they will count for at least 2 USB devices each one for the actual ASIC miner and another for the hub device that provides the chaining port.  So for someone like you that expects to have like 50+ of the things I wouldn't expect to chain them all and have it just work.

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October 14, 2013, 05:06:15 PM
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Remember the cool thing about the modules is that they daisy chain together.

Not saying this is or isn't true but, you are the only person that has claimed this will be possible.  There haven't been any postings from HF accounts in this thread at least claiming they will work this way.
you don't have to believe me but...

Even if you can daisy chain them the maximum number of USB devices a computer can support is 127 which sounds like a lot but many physical devices have multiple logical USB devices within them so if the things can be daisy chained they will count for at least 2 USB devices each one for the actual ASIC miner and another for the hub device that provides the chaining port.  So for someone like you that expects to have like 50+ of the things I wouldn't expect to chain them all and have it just work.
Depending on how they implemented the daisy chaining, you might not get even close to 127. The traditional way would be to have the first module plug into the USB port, with the module itself being one device and the "output" to the next device being a hub. There are limits to hub depth though (usually 5), so you might not be able to chain more than a few HF modules together.
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October 14, 2013, 05:19:15 PM
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Anyway who would be stupid enough to add point of failures this way?

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