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February 16, 2012, 12:37:48 PM
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i'd totally use this if it were ready for p2pool for dummays like me.
would that be totally possible?
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February 16, 2012, 02:47:51 PM
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i'd totally use this if it were ready for p2pool for dummays like me.
would that be totally possible?

Simplest thing is to install wallet & p2pool on a separate machine, then point all p2pool miners at that machine.  Essentially your p2pool "machine" is your "pool server" as far as BAMT & cgminer are concerned.

You can even add a backup "traditional pool" in cgminer for failover support.

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"pools" : [
        {
                "url" : "192.168.0.100:9332",  <-IP address of machine running p2pool instance (or use one of the public relays)
                "user" : "user",
                "pass" : "pass"
        },
        {
                "url" : "your_conventional_pool:8332",
                "user" : "user",
                "pass" : "pass"
        }
],

Having wallet on BAMT is technically possible BUT it requires the blockchain.  Downloading the blockchain on each machine is horribly inefficient and the constant read/write is going to kill usb drives.


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February 16, 2012, 02:52:34 PM
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i'd totally use this if it were ready for p2pool for dummays like me.
would that be totally possible?

Simplest thing is to install wallet & p2pool on a separate machine, then point all p2pool miners at that machine.  Essentially your p2pool "machine" is your "pool server" as far as BAMT & cgminer are concerned.

You can even add a backup "traditional pool" in cgminer for failover support.

Code:
"pools" : [
        {
                "url" : "192.168.0.100:9332",  <-IP address of machine running p2pool instance (or use one of the public relays)
                "user" : "user",
                "pass" : "pass"
        },
        {
                "url" : "your_conventional_pool:8332",
                "user" : "user",
                "pass" : "pass"
        }
],

Having wallet on BAMT is technically possible BUT it requires the blockchain.  Downloading the blockchain on each machine is horribly inefficient and the constant read/write is going to kill usb drives.




for the love of all that is holy, DO NOT ever put a wallet on a bamt rig.  there are many reasons you should not do this.  don't do it. 

If this pool2p thing requires a local wallet, then no it will not be supported on bamt, ever.

However like you said, there is no problem to point your BAMT rigs at a machine running it.


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February 17, 2012, 12:10:32 AM
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Any way to read from more than one sensor on a card?
temperature shown in gpumon is from GPU core, right?
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February 17, 2012, 12:24:25 AM
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Any way to read from more than one sensor on a card?
temperature shown in gpumon is from GPU core, right?

temp shown is whatever the cards sends in response to a request for "temp_0" or something like that, which is all that most GPUs have.
if you'd like something else, describe it in detail and I'll be happy to give you a quote for the work.

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February 17, 2012, 01:01:53 AM
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temp shown is whatever the cards sends in response to a request for "temp_0" or something like that, which is all that most GPUs have.
if you'd like something else, describe it in detail and I'll be happy to give you a quote for the work.

I'd just like to see temperatures from sensors like in GPU-Z which reads temp. from 3 or 4 different sensors (core, memory, vrm?), of course it depends on the card, dual gpu cards have more. Reason why I'm asking is because core temps have usually been the lowest on my cards, memory 2-12C warmer. If my core temp. is 80C and mem temp is 82C it's fine for me but if my core temp is 80C and memory 90C+ then I'm not that happpy Tongue

If it is doable for you - how big of a bounty should I collect? ;]
I think people with dual-gpu cards would also be interested.
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February 17, 2012, 01:38:55 AM
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temp shown is whatever the cards sends in response to a request for "temp_0" or something like that, which is all that most GPUs have.
if you'd like something else, describe it in detail and I'll be happy to give you a quote for the work.

I'd just like to see temperatures from sensors like in GPU-Z which reads temp. from 3 or 4 different sensors (core, memory, vrm?), of course it depends on the card, dual gpu cards have more. Reason why I'm asking is because core temps have usually been the lowest on my cards, memory 2-12C warmer. If my core temp. is 80C and mem temp is 82C it's fine for me but if my core temp is 80C and memory 90C+ then I'm not that happpy Tongue

If it is doable for you - how big of a bounty should I collect? ;]
I think people with dual-gpu cards would also be interested.

the fee for this work will be one card with these multiple sensors you want read, or enough btc to acquire such a thing.  too hard to write and test without any hardware.


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February 17, 2012, 03:59:40 AM
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temp shown is whatever the cards sends in response to a request for "temp_0" or something like that, which is all that most GPUs have.
if you'd like something else, describe it in detail and I'll be happy to give you a quote for the work.

I'd just like to see temperatures from sensors like in GPU-Z which reads temp. from 3 or 4 different sensors (core, memory, vrm?), of course it depends on the card, dual gpu cards have more. Reason why I'm asking is because core temps have usually been the lowest on my cards, memory 2-12C warmer. If my core temp. is 80C and mem temp is 82C it's fine for me but if my core temp is 80C and memory 90C+ then I'm not that happpy Tongue

If it is doable for you - how big of a bounty should I collect? ;]
I think people with dual-gpu cards would also be interested.

My understanding is it is non trivial.  Those values aren't exposed via drivers of ADL at all.  They are internal values used for thermal management among other things.  GPU-Z dumps a raw copy of the cards management registers and then parses it to find the values it is looking for.
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February 17, 2012, 04:01:40 AM
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temp shown is whatever the cards sends in response to a request for "temp_0" or something like that, which is all that most GPUs have.
if you'd like something else, describe it in detail and I'll be happy to give you a quote for the work.

I'd just like to see temperatures from sensors like in GPU-Z which reads temp. from 3 or 4 different sensors (core, memory, vrm?), of course it depends on the card, dual gpu cards have more. Reason why I'm asking is because core temps have usually been the lowest on my cards, memory 2-12C warmer. If my core temp. is 80C and mem temp is 82C it's fine for me but if my core temp is 80C and memory 90C+ then I'm not that happpy Tongue

If it is doable for you - how big of a bounty should I collect? ;]
I think people with dual-gpu cards would also be interested.

My understanding is it is non trivial.  Those values aren't exposed via drivers of ADL at all.  They are internal values used for thermal management among other things.  GPU-Z dumps a raw copy of the cards management registers and then parses it to find the values it is looking for.


thats the impression i got too, which i why i won't work on it without some hardware to test with Smiley

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February 17, 2012, 10:19:12 AM
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Maybe someone can provide remote access to a 5870 or 5970 to allow you to make an improved version of "radeonvolt" that actually reads the values for the VRMs ?

That is the last thing where Linux is deficit to Windblows when it comes to mining : cannot reliably read GPU temperatures.

For me, the latest version of radeonvolt just reads the core speeds only and not the VRMs. All this on a reference 5870.

Radeonvolt modified to support 5870 ( it was coded originally for reference 5850 ) does not properly show VRM temps.
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February 17, 2012, 10:35:28 AM
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thats the impression i got too, which i why i won't work on it without some hardware to test with Smiley

Would remote access as suggested above by bulanula above be fine?
Cards I have are 5830, 5850s, 5870s, 6770 and 6850 but non-referent
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February 17, 2012, 01:07:12 PM
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Will BAMT with cgminer recognize the new BFL products?

I guess I'm trying to understand how the BAMT/cgminer integration works.

Thanks,
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February 17, 2012, 04:28:49 PM
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Will BAMT with cgminer recognize the new BFL products?

I guess I'm trying to understand how the BAMT/cgminer integration works.

Thanks,
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integration is though the RPC API.  cgminer makes data available via JSON RPC calls.  cgminer makes those calls to get stats and statuses.

If something isn't available inside cgminer (like say fan speed %) for a particular product it won't be obviously available in BAMT either but other than that BAMT doesn't really know or care what is doing the mining.  It reports what cgminer tells it to report.
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February 17, 2012, 04:33:29 PM
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Will BAMT with cgminer recognize the new BFL products?

I guess I'm trying to understand how the BAMT/cgminer integration works.

Thanks,
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integration is though the RPC API.  cgminer makes data available via JSON RPC calls.  cgminer makes those calls to get stats and statuses.

If something isn't available inside cgminer (like say fan speed %) for a particular product it won't be obviously available in BAMT either but other than that BAMT doesn't really know or care what is doing the mining.  It reports what cgminer tells it to report.

Perfect. Thanks D&T. We're getting close to game time!
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February 17, 2012, 04:42:22 PM
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Maybe someone can provide remote access to a 5870 or 5970 to allow you to make an improved version of "radeonvolt" that actually reads the values for the VRMs ?

That is the last thing where Linux is deficit to Windblows when it comes to mining : cannot reliably read GPU temperatures.

For me, the latest version of radeonvolt just reads the core speeds only and not the VRMs. All this on a reference 5870.

Radeonvolt modified to support 5870 ( it was coded originally for reference 5850 ) does not properly show VRM temps.

Maybe someone would work for free to support hardware they don't own, but it isn't me.

Remote access is a pain in the ass, and gives me no reason to care.



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February 17, 2012, 11:16:58 PM
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High guys,

I finally have my Bamt rig working with 3 5970.

However, I am a newb to linux...... I used GUIMiner before on windows 7 which was very simple.

I still can't see or understand how to setup the MGPUMON on a browser. Or remotely. I can only see it on terminal. I would pay pay 5BTC for a instructional video on setting up bamt COMPLETELY. I wish I can pay more! If any one else wants to add to this bounty.

thanks
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February 17, 2012, 11:26:18 PM
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get me on msn messenger and i guide you...for nothing

maxinmontreal@hotmail dot com
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February 17, 2012, 11:39:04 PM
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get me on msn messenger and i guide you...for nothing

maxinmontreal@hotmail dot com

Thanks!

However, I don't use MSN. I use Skype.
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February 18, 2012, 12:28:22 AM
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get me on msn messenger and i guide you...for nothing

maxinmontreal@hotmail dot com

Ok,

I am using my wife MSN.....

jessicaoncue@hotmail dot com
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February 18, 2012, 06:09:39 AM
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send the bounty to the creator of bamt...he will take care of you!
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