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February 06, 2014, 03:14:22 PM
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After reading some of the potential problems with a "Turing complete" scripting language I wonder if it might not be better to "wait and see" how things go with Ethereum before "jumping on board".

(at least IMO the concerns should perhaps bump this feature down a step or two below other features being either considered or developed)

I think that we could run Scripting on a parallel chain. Main chain won't be hurt if something goes wrong.

Btw, simple opcodes require much less resources to execute than opcodes handling blocks and transactions. If we can't use 1 opcode = X NXT fee approach then we could add SHA256 and other crypto stuff. Anyway we have to use modified Voting System to set fee multiplier for each opcode.
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February 06, 2014, 03:16:16 PM
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Envy trolls strike back - http://cryptofuture.wordpress.com/2014/02/06/nxt-centralization-fixed-transactions/  Grin

WARNING, very high density of nonsense!

yes thanks to the creator of peerexplorer crimi666 creating and spreading FUD in his peerexplorer thread on nextcoin.  That is the source of this article's 'facts'.

There is so much nonsense in that article that we don't even need to refute it.
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February 06, 2014, 03:18:30 PM
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Black marble looks great!

Ties are a prison for the soul...
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February 06, 2014, 03:19:47 PM
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Black marble looks great!

It's the white one with reversed colors. Smiley
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February 06, 2014, 03:21:42 PM
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I think that we could run Scripting on a parallel chain. Main chain won't be hurt if something goes wrong.

Very interested to see how this "parallel chain" stuff is going to work - and yes I guess it could be the safest way to do the "smart contracts".

Am guessing that if we approach it that way then the 100+ TPS should not be affected by this or other ideas that could also be put into "parallel chains".

Maybe this is the "real ace" that Nxt has up its sleeve?

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February 06, 2014, 03:22:51 PM
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Regarding closed source: Look at the roadmap.
Regarding size: I wanted to do it hassle-free to make it easy for new users, so both, the NXT core and the jre are included. Once my release cycle slows down, I'll offer client-only downloads (without core and jre).

Marcus thanx for your effort.
I just upgraded to NRS 0.6 and deleted the 1.6 solaris files.
Is your 1.6 running with 0.6 already?
Can you be as fast as JL is? Grin

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February 06, 2014, 03:23:22 PM
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After reading some of the potential problems with a "Turing complete" scripting language I wonder if it might not be better to "wait and see" how things go with Ethereum before "jumping on board".

(at least IMO the concerns should perhaps bump this feature down a step or two below other features being either considered or developed)

I think that we could run Scripting on a parallel chain. Main chain won't be hurt if something goes wrong.

Btw, simple opcodes require much less resources to execute than opcodes handling blocks and transactions. If we can't use 1 opcode = X NXT fee approach then we could add SHA256 and other crypto stuff. Anyway we have to use modified Voting System to set fee multiplier for each opcode.

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February 06, 2014, 03:23:33 PM
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Black marble looks great!

It's the white one with reversed colors. Smiley

Alright. I will post the results in 4-5 hours.

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February 06, 2014, 03:24:34 PM
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Can anyone explain how i send nxt to solaris wallet??

You cant use the Solaris client to send or receive right now, its still in beta.

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As of now, you can't send NXT, register aliases or anything else that requires your account secret. As such, you will currently not be asked for your secret in the NXT Solaris client
https://nextcoin.org/index.php?topic=2793.0
http://nxtsolaris.wordpress.com/

works perfect for me sending, receiving.

This client is so cool and has so much functionalities. There are only 2 problems with it: closed source and 132MB.

Regarding closed source: Look at the roadmap.

Regarding size: I wanted to do it hassle-free to make it easy for new users, so both, the NXT core and the jre are included. Once my release cycle slows down, I'll offer client-only downloads (without core and jre).

Very nice work. I love it!
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February 06, 2014, 03:26:44 PM
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I think that we could run Scripting on a parallel chain. Main chain won't be hurt if something goes wrong.

Very interested to see how this "parallel chain" stuff is going to work - and yes I guess it could be the safest way to do the "smart contracts".


I don't like word "contracts" coz:

1. We stole borrowed Ethereum's idea, let's rebrand it at least. Smiley
2. Smart Contracts is another concept of BCNext, it was supposed to be data-driven.

Maybe this is the "real ace" that Nxt has up its sleeve?

No. Nxt has only 1 "real ace" - Transparent Forging. All the rest is just borrowed ideas, IMHO.
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February 06, 2014, 03:29:47 PM
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Alright. I will post the results in 4-5 hours.

Do just black-on-white and white-on-black hexagons, plz. Without background.
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February 06, 2014, 03:32:57 PM
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Regarding closed source: Look at the roadmap.
Regarding size: I wanted to do it hassle-free to make it easy for new users, so both, the NXT core and the jre are included. Once my release cycle slows down, I'll offer client-only downloads (without core and jre).

Marcus thanx for your effort.
I just upgraded to NRS 0.6 and deleted the 1.6 solaris files.
Is your 1.6 running with 0.6 already?
Can you be as fast as JL is? Grin

Can't keep up with JL. :-)

Simply delete what's in the nxt subfolder and extract the updated nxt core version there. Or simply don't use the NRS version that comes with Solaris by choosing "Connect to fixed URL" in Solaris.

I'll prolly release an updated version later today.
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February 06, 2014, 03:33:02 PM
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MY RASPI IS RUNNING FINE WITH 0.6.0

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2036 ?        SNl  160:29 /usr/bin/java -Xms250m -Xmx350m -jar start.jar STOP.PORT=7873 STOP.KEY=0815
 

what am I missing Huh

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258:35 /usr/bin/java -Xms320m -Xmx450m -jar start.jar

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February 06, 2014, 03:38:06 PM
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Alright. I will post the results in 4-5 hours.

Do just black-on-white and white-on-black hexagons, plz. Without background.

Come-from-Beyond: One last question Sir from my side: So Nxtgirl is somehow away, what is with the idea of Lakshmi [LAK] now?
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February 06, 2014, 03:39:29 PM
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shall we vote on something? Smiley

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February 06, 2014, 03:47:47 PM
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Release 0.6.1

http://download.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.6.1.zip

sha256: 6b5c8632c2d52a066d40017055a2e28f25d16fa30d3c0574bddb12f7d157e55c

Change log:

Fixed a minor bug in the 0.6.0 critical bugfix. Probably not exploitable,
but doesn't hurt to upgrade.

Backported some minor optimizations from 0.7.0.

Better handling of malformed peer announced addresses.


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February 06, 2014, 03:48:35 PM
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So, after update to 0.6.0 my node stuck in a loop with no new blocks and these:

Code:
[2014-02-06 13:22:11.796] DEBUG: Reversal of alias assignment not supported
[2014-02-06 13:22:11.797] DEBUG: Popping off last block not possible, will do a rescan
[2014-02-06 13:22:16.996] Re-scanning blockchain...

I redownloaded the blockchain and now it's stuck at block 59557

Dunno what's going on, node was running fine for weeks at 0.5.x
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February 06, 2014, 03:50:10 PM
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Release 0.6.1

http://download.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.6.1.zip

sha256: 6b5c8632c2d52a066d40017055a2e28f25d16fa30d3c0574bddb12f7d157e55c

Change log:

Fixed a minor bug in the 0.6.0 critical bugfix. Probably not exploitable,
but doesn't hurt to upgrade.

Backported some minor optimizations from 0.7.0.

Better handling of malformed peer announced addresses.


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i have to destroy my raspberrypi or in a future maybe 512 will be enough?
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February 06, 2014, 03:52:20 PM
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i have to destroy my raspberrypi or in a future maybe 512 will be enough?
It may be enough, you will be able to try with 0.7.0 soon.

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February 06, 2014, 03:53:12 PM
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I think that we could run Scripting on a parallel chain. Main chain won't be hurt if something goes wrong.

Very interested to see how this "parallel chain" stuff is going to work - and yes I guess it could be the safest way to do the "smart contracts".


I don't like word "contracts" coz:

1. We stole borrowed Ethereum's idea, let's rebrand it at least. Smiley
2. Smart Contracts is another concept of BCNext, it was supposed to be data-driven.

Maybe this is the "real ace" that Nxt has up its sleeve?

No. Nxt has only 1 "real ace" - Transparent Forging. All the rest is just borrowed ideas, IMHO.

How about "Transients"   ...Nxt transients can be run on master or parallel chains.

or "Covenants"

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