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The time in the nxt algorithm doesnt decide who will forge, just when he will forge the block.
That is *not* my current understanding (and why my updated model now seems to match the *real* stats). Here I would agree with BloodyRookie, since all targets remain proportional as time grows. |
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February 26, 2014, 06:00:11 PM |
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@all: Where did you obtain your knowledge regarding the used algorithm in Nxt?
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February 26, 2014, 06:00:22 PM |
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Here I would agree with BloodyRookie, since all targets remain proportional as time grows.
In that case I am not sure how to fix my model - we seem to have multiple communication problems (native language, level of math and computer language).  |
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February 26, 2014, 06:00:33 PM |
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So it's Andreas? (I don't understand what he is talking about) |
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February 26, 2014, 06:02:02 PM |
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@all: Where did you obtain your knowledge regarding the used algorithm in Nxt?
I tried my best to understand the Java source code that was released (and will readily admit I've failed to "grok" it). It is not written in a way that makes it easy to follow at all and I am not a Java programmer (I do C++). |
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February 26, 2014, 06:04:00 PM |
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@all: Where did you obtain your knowledge regarding the used algorithm in Nxt?
You should ask to Jean-Luc |
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mthcl
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February 26, 2014, 06:04:26 PM |
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@all: Where did you obtain your knowledge regarding the used algorithm in Nxt?
From conversations with CfB and Ian. |
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February 26, 2014, 06:06:12 PM |
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I wanted to point out that different sources could result in different understandings of the algo.
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February 26, 2014, 06:09:00 PM |
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Agreed (minus the vulgar language), we can market AE when it's finished with testing and we are happy with it.
Btw, who is really testing it? I got only a few bug reports. I don't really need AE working (I'm not a trader and don't need to IPO anything), so I can wait till April. The community should focus on testing if it does need AE. The best test is on the mainnet. If there wasn't any bugs reported recently then it is the time to bring it on. |
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February 26, 2014, 06:09:14 PM |
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So I think I am about done with trying to simulate our blockchain (it is too tiring and this is not my area of expertise).
If someone else is interested to take over then you have my source code and at least some mathematical analysis has been done on the "real" algorithm (without penalty being considered).
Unfortunately the result is that "we just don't know" if the Nxt TF algo is going to work at this stage (and we have not got any idea if anything else will work better).
Sorry I couldn't provide a better analysis but maybe others can improve on this.
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February 26, 2014, 06:13:25 PM |
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So it's Andreas? (I don't understand what he is talking about) he says his second book will be called: How Bitcoin failed and how we can get the Next one right. So he knew about Nxt in September  |
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February 26, 2014, 06:14:32 PM |
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How is going on the AE test? this is real markeeting, not speakers for freaks/geeks
Hell yeah!!! This is what will sell NXT. Functional and secure network, decentralized currency, Free market economy. It only needs to be that difficult. If these things are in place, peoples own self interest will do the rest. The AE offers up so many opportunities, if the network is functional and secure. |
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February 26, 2014, 06:20:34 PM |
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How is going on the AE test? this is real markeeting, not speakers for freaks/geeks
who the fuck cares? AE is not working that is why nobody talks about it. That is soooo short sighted to say. I will talk about it. It will be worth it when it's ready. The guys working on it don't have time to talk as they have there ears to the grind stone. what you wanna talk about? |
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February 26, 2014, 06:21:20 PM |
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So it's Andreas? (I don't understand what he is talking about) he says his second book will be called: How Bitcoin failed and how we can get the Next one right. So he knew about Nxt in September He just said || Next ||, we do not know he was referring to NXT  |
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February 26, 2014, 06:21:44 PM |
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So it's Andreas? (I don't understand what he is talking about) At the time he was talking that Bitcoin might not survive in the future because of some security flaws and in the "next crypto-currency" he is sure that everything will be fixed. |
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February 26, 2014, 06:21:59 PM |
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How is going on the AE test? this is real markeeting, not speakers for freaks/geeks
who the fuck cares? AE is not working that is why nobody talks about it. That is soooo short sighted to say. I will talk about it. It will be worth it when it's ready. The guys working on it don't have time to talk as they have there ears to the grind stone. what you wanna talk about? Don't worry about Emule...he's the NXT troll around these parts  |
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February 26, 2014, 06:22:33 PM |
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he says his second book will be called: How Bitcoin failed and how we can get the Next one right. So he knew about Nxt in September Interesting. One of the guys who were sitting there could be BCNext... |
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February 26, 2014, 06:26:16 PM |
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he says his second book will be called: How Bitcoin failed and how we can get the Next one right. So he knew about Nxt in September Interesting. One of the guys who were sitting there could be BCNext... It can be BCnext .. maybe ... |
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Jerical13
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February 26, 2014, 06:26:39 PM |
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How is going on the AE test? this is real markeeting, not speakers for freaks/geeks
who the fuck cares? AE is not working that is why nobody talks about it. Agreed (minus the vulgar language), we can market AE when it's finished with testing and we are happy with it. Is there anybody here that is testing the AE? I have played around with it some but I am not a program writer, so I am not really sure what you are looking for when testing. Is there anything specific I could help with? |
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February 26, 2014, 06:28:19 PM |
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yes, they extract IP and use that to determine if the extracted IP matches the source of blocks. IF you hallmark then you identify your account with your IP address, so just be aware of that. you can still hallmark with NAT IP, but if your IP address changes then your hallmark automatically becomes invalid and you have to redo it. |
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