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[abctc]

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[Come-from-Beyond]

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3364.msg39381.html#msg39381

Is there anybody here that is actually serious about helping take NXT to the NEXT LEVEL?

[CIYAM]

We need a probability distribution for these streaks. Absolute numbers are irrelevant.

To be blunt - why don't you just fix it then (instead of asking me to do more work on it)?

[nexern]

If someone need testNXT, write here, or PM me.

Yesterday I've tested AE a bit.. no problem found yet. You can try to buy some of my ABCs on testnet.

could you send me some more please? -> 9998590259914237067

thx abctc

[mthcl]

We need a probability distribution for these streaks. Absolute numbers are irrelevant.

See the paper I linked here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg5390133#msg5390133  (pages 202-204).

[bitcoinpaul]

I have no freakin' clue why you come to this conclusion. I am extremely satisfied with and thankful for your contribution and we all discussed the algo today. Why do you suddenly think no one wants this?

Thanks for the kind words - it is perhaps a combination of being tired, not getting anyone else to work on the simulation and just getting more and more suggestions for alternative ways to do things when we don't already even know what it is doing that has led to me needing to "give it a rest".

You deserve your rest but please, after that, keep it coming. I think the most of us are just silent (or suggest incentive ideas) because they have no clue what you are talking about.

[Jerical13]

How is going on the AE test? this is real markeeting, not speakers for freaks/geeks

who the fuck cares?

AE is not working that is why nobody talks about it.

That is soooo short sighted to say. I will talk about it. It will be worth it when it's ready. The guys working on it don't have time to talk as they have there ears to the grind stone. what you wanna talk about?

Don't worry about Emule...he's the NXT troll around these parts

I don't mind trolls. I was just wondering if he had any real arguments other than to say that the AE wasn't up yet.

Work in progress

[ChuckOne]

I believe in another thread (flaw thread) we came to the conclusion that it is important to have many accounts for modeling. 10 could be too few.

It could be - so at the moment I am focusing on some more "worst-case scenarios".

Once I am happy with the stats we are getting from those simulations then I will move to what are perhaps "more realistic scenarios".

But mixing conceptually different worst-case scenarios will obscure causes.

[abctc]

If someone need testNXT, write here, or PM me.
 You can try to buy some of my ABCs on testnet.

please make an offer

- made!  only 8 test NXT for a precious ABC for your little Pinocchio!

[wesleyh]

What about a liquid market? How can we simulate one? What kind of test cases can we come up with? Who actually IS testing the AE on the testNET? For sure I know about jl777 and myself but there are 2 or three others - wesleyh / nexern / marcus03 ??

For now I'm done with AE implementation in my client. It might need a bit of polishing once there are lots of assets/orders/trades, but I'll be able to fix this pretty quickly.

I myself, haven't seen any problems in the NRS side of the implementation.

On a side note regarding my client: I've put a lot of work into implementing client-side signing in my client to be able to connect securely to trustless nodes, so that users don't have to start NRS at all and I can ditch NRS and java from my distribution. However, I think that it is currently not possible to use a NXT thin client, since the API doesn't have calls that return batches of transactions/orders/trades/peers with one call. As it is right now, it simply takes to long to do hundreds or thousands of separate calls to fetch hundreds or thousand of transactions/orders/trades/peers. Since I really think that thin clients are the way to go, you might not see any updates of my client until a batch mode is available.

Seems to be quite fast for my client. Threading is what you need to do, and I also limit it to the last 50 bid / aks orders.

[CIYAM]

But mixing conceptually different worst-case scenarios will obscure causes.

Your welcome to fix it (as stated - I am done with it - you have the source code now go and *code* rather than reply to posts).

[redsn0w]

If someone need testNXT, write here, or PM me.

Yesterday I've tested AE a bit.. no problem found yet. You can try to buy some of my ABCs on testnet.

May I ask what is your address number ?

[rdanneskjoldr]

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot+of+f%28p%29%3Dp%281-exp%28-%281-p%29%2Fp%29%29%2F%281-p%29++for+p\in+%280%2C1%29

Now this is the kind of thing that is *valuable* (more so than all the "suggestions" about different ways to do things).

I am grateful to @mthcl for actually "doing some math" for us and hope that he will be able to help us to analyse things further in order to make some "scientific decisions" (rather than "populist" ones).

EDIT: If some of the "whales" could spare some of their NXT then I would hope they would consider sending some his way.

+1    600 nxt sent to him,ty^^

[mthcl]

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot+of+f%28p%29%3Dp%281-exp%28-%281-p%29%2Fp%29%29%2F%281-p%29++for+p\in+%280%2C1%29

Now this is the kind of thing that is *valuable* (more so than all the "suggestions" about different ways to do things).

I am grateful to @mthcl for actually "doing some math" for us and hope that he will be able to help us to analyse things further in order to make some "scientific decisions" (rather than "populist" ones).

EDIT: If some of the "whales" could spare some of their NXT then I would hope they would consider sending some his way.

+1    600 nxt sent to him,ty^^

thx a lot!

[marcus03]

What about a liquid market? How can we simulate one? What kind of test cases can we come up with? Who actually IS testing the AE on the testNET? For sure I know about jl777 and myself but there are 2 or three others - wesleyh / nexern / marcus03 ??

For now I'm done with AE implementation in my client. It might need a bit of polishing once there are lots of assets/orders/trades, but I'll be able to fix this pretty quickly.

I myself, haven't seen any problems in the NRS side of the implementation.

On a side note regarding my client: I've put a lot of work into implementing client-side signing in my client to be able to connect securely to trustless nodes, so that users don't have to start NRS at all and I can ditch NRS and java from my distribution. However, I think that it is currently not possible to use a NXT thin client, since the API doesn't have calls that return batches of transactions/orders/trades/peers with one call. As it is right now, it simply takes to long to do hundreds or thousands of separate calls to fetch hundreds or thousand of transactions/orders/trades/peers. Since I really think that thin clients are the way to go, you might not see any updates of my client until a batch mode is available.

Seems to be quite fast for my client. Threading is what you need to do, and I also limit it to the last 50 bid / aks orders.

I do use threading and the problem can be circumvented for orders, since you are only really interested in the top orders.

When a user adds an account, do you fetch all transactions for this account?

[nexern]

Agreed (minus the vulgar language), we can market AE when it's finished with testing and we are happy with it.

Btw, who is really testing it? I got only a few bug reports.

I don't really need AE working (I'm not a trader and don't need to IPO anything), so I can wait till April. The community should focus on testing if it does need AE.

hm well ... I have tested all the basic functions: placeOrder (bis/ask) cancelOrder(bid/ask),issueAsset, transferAsset, trade. Fetch bidorder/askorder as TX from trade.
The bug with the 'not enough funds'. I am still missing out on the scaling - whether it is 0.01nxt or 1 nxt, little things like that.

May main focus atm is getting the modelView pulled straight in Qt, and then I'll have to switch from GET to POST in requests.

What about a liquid market? How can we simulate one? What kind of test cases can we come up with? Who actually IS testing the AE on the testNET? For sure I know about jl777 and myself but there are 2 or three others - wesleyh / nexern / marcus03 ??

Please chime in whoever is testing, so we can cook up something more lively!

yes, we have to setup a more reallistic AE scenario and put some heavy load to predefined assets.
i would suggest to coordinate this wthin the next days because we need a precise account balance
tracking for this. i just added additional logfiles within the client to trace the balance and found some
small diffs. not sure yet if this is a bug or not or a minor error within my code.

all basic functions a workig very well from my side and the AE is cool. we need ths AE soon to built
a bunch of services on top of this.

[lophie]

thnkas, 9 k test nxt recieved omg omg.

[abctc]

could you send me some more please? -> 9998590259914237067

- 20k testNXT sent!

[Choboy]

Lophie is selling 800k at 0.000082, This is the usual rush sale, PM ASAP.

Fellow Nxters! User lophie has a great Nxt to BTC trade offered, and I want to take him up on it! Can people vouch for him? He does have a ton of posts and Hero status, but I want to be even safer than safe because I will have to send first!~

[wesleyh]

Lophie is selling 800k at 0.000082, This is the usual rush sale, PM ASAP.

Fellow Nxters! User lophie has a great Nxt to BTC trade offered, and I want to take him up on it! Can people vouch for him? He does have a ton of posts and Hero status, but I want to be even safer than safe because I will have to send first!~

You will have no issues trading with Lophie, you can count on that.