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February 27, 2014, 01:02:22 PM
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Since I'm not going to achieve psychic mindlock today with CfB and BCNext to get the information dump we all need, I'm gonna change the subject.  (Squirrel!!! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSUXXzN26zg )

There is a new coin on coinmarketcap.com just below NXT in market cap and that is Auroracoin.  If you don't know about Auroracoin, you should take a minute and read some about it.  It is a litecoin clone that is about to become an official government currency for Iceland.  Without going into gory details, the banking system in Iceland has had huge problems over the past few years and the government is desperate to engineer a reboot.  Thus Auroracoin.  It has a 50% pre-mine that is being held in trust and will be given out to the people of Iceland in 25 days.  They are encouraging activity to get tools in the hands of Icelanders to allow their easy use of this new currency.  


http://www.auroracoin.org/

http://theconversation.com/free-cash-for-iceland-but-it-pays-to-keep-cool-about-auroracoin-23061

The 64,000 NXT question is - could NXT somehow get on this bandwagon and become part of the Auroracoin management system via AE?  If we can get EVERYBODY IN ICELAND (population 300,000) owning NXT as a part of helping to manage their new Auroracoins...

JAMES  Grin

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February 27, 2014, 01:03:32 PM
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Btw, I've re-read "1984". It begins on the 4th of April 1984. 3rd of April is the last day of my contract (the next day is exactly +30 years). Dunno if it means anything. Smiley

Was it you or BCNext who suggested the end date of your contract?

BCNext. I thought it was just +3 month since the official launch.

Would you entertain an offer from the NXT community to go on contract to US starting April 4?
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February 27, 2014, 01:04:41 PM
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What is the fastest blocktime you think we can get with performance controlled hallmarked servers?

That depends upon the network topology which isn't even known - basically you'd have to measure these things "in the wild" to even roughly work this out.

P.S. Is the internet inside China also slow, or is it just going in and out of the Great fireWall of China that is slow?

Our TV has WiFi and we can watch high quality movies here (many for free) so inside of China it is very fast (am only using 2M standard home connection).

That GCF is mostly automated now btw and does detect encrypted traffic (which is generally when it "slams on the brakes") and it gets "smarter" every year (most standard VPS services don't work here now).

Since we are doing 60 second blocks now, it seems that speeding it up to 30 second blocks shouldnt be too hard. Probably 10 seconds will require using just hallmarked nodes with guaranteed high speed access. Sounds like for China, there would need to be a few special tunneling servers. Not great from centralization, but as long as traffic inside China is fast, we can bridge (tunnel) it to the faster internet outside of China.

Last I heard, NXT block content is not encrypted, if this is the case that sounds like it is a good thing for China. If some AM's are encrypted do you think that would trigger GCF?

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February 27, 2014, 01:05:32 PM
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Would you entertain an offer from the NXT community to go on contract to US starting April 4?

No. Already have other things to do.
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February 27, 2014, 01:07:58 PM
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Btw, I've re-read "1984". It begins on the 4th of April 1984. 3rd of April is the last day of my contract (the next day is exactly +30 years). Dunno if it means anything. Smiley

Was it you or BCNext who suggested the end date of your contract?

BCNext. I thought it was just +3 month since the official launch.

I'd guess that he at least knew the relationship between the dates, even if he didn't intend for it to mean anything.

Just a guess though. Smiley

Btw why do you say that BCNext can no longer prove identity now that the genesis account passphrase has been discovered? Wouldn't sending a transaction from his BTC address 1BCN... have the same standard of proof as a tx sent or auth token created from genesis acc?

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February 27, 2014, 01:08:09 PM
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I will be releasing a test version of automated multisig gateway this weekend. It doesnt quite work the way you describe, but it achieves the same result and with better security. You establish a BTC account for withdrawals and get assigned a custom deposit address.
Can you say more about security?
1. If Account B is made by a human, would this lead to trust problems?
Yes, it is centralized gateway with need of trust to owner of private key of address B.
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February 27, 2014, 01:11:58 PM
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Btw why do you say that BCNext can no longer prove identity now that the genesis account passphrase has been discovered? Wouldn't sending a transaction from his BTC address 1BCN... have the same standard of proof as a tx sent or auth token created from genesis acc?

Seems u r right. I forgot about the transfer address.
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February 27, 2014, 01:13:02 PM
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Last I heard, NXT block content is not encrypted, if this is the case that sounds like it is a good thing for China. If some AM's are encrypted do you think that would trigger GCF?

Hard to say - but quite likely that it would - it tends to also do things like "ban you for 30 minutes" randomly.

With CIYAM anyone can create 100% generated C++ web applications in literally minutes.

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February 27, 2014, 01:15:06 PM
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Btw why do you say that BCNext can no longer prove identity now that the genesis account passphrase has been discovered? Wouldn't sending a transaction from his BTC address 1BCN... have the same standard of proof as a tx sent or auth token created from genesis acc?

Seems u r right. I forgot about the transfer address.

Our Creator may still speak to us. All is not lost!

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February 27, 2014, 01:17:21 PM
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Our Creator Master may still speak to us. All is not lost!

Grin

FTFY Grin
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February 27, 2014, 01:17:44 PM
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Who's running 0.8.3 on Windows? I am not able to start it.

I created a start.bat with these contents (none of them worked):
Code:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -jar -Xmx1024M -cp nxt.jar:lib/*:conf nxt.Nxt

Code:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre7\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1024M -cp nxt.jar:lib/*:conf nxt.Nxt

Code:
java -Xmx1024M -cp nxt.jar:lib/*:conf nxt.Nxt

BTW: This is outdated -> http://www.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-coin/install-nxt-software-your-computer
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February 27, 2014, 01:21:01 PM
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With respect: this is a glib, bullshit answer, and you can't prove the "most of us" part any more than you can prove the "BCNext did math analysis" part.

Three months in and we have no Whitepaper, no documentation of algorithms, and no modelling or statistical analysis.

The greatest irony of the great decentralized Nxt Ecosystem is that its core is centralized in an opaque, anonymous identity who only communicates to the world through a Belarusan Java programmer on contract.

One day soon, Nxt will be called out for this. It is Nxt's biggest flaw.


He found the fatal flaw and he is right.

Wrt "Three months in and we have no Whitepaper, no documentation of algorithms, and no modelling or statistical analysis"...

U have source code. It's enough to get the rest. Don't u think that one needs IQ > 200 to do the analysis?

The problem is communication, my friend. What's not in the source code is WHY things were built the way they were, or what BCNext's expectations are for the community, or a plan that isn't communicated in one-line forum posts once every 20 forum pages.

What's missing from BCNext is a commitment to communication and transparency towards the very community that have turned his 6000 lines of Java into actual potential.

There is no such thing as too much communication. BCNext is a fine example of the opposite.

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February 27, 2014, 01:21:08 PM
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No real reason. It's very easy to get the source code by disassembling the binaries. I think he was just waiting for a bright cold day in April to do it

April 2014 = 04 2014 = 0+4+2+0+1+4 = 11  Grin Grin Grin

Perhaps 11 04 2014 = 11+11=22   Grin Grin Grin

1st part published on 9th of Dec.
2nd part published on 10th of Feb (+2 month +1 day) / 21
Perhaps 3rd part will be published on 11th of April (+2 month +1 day).

Yes, looks like it's 11 04 2014 Grin

Number 22 is also a Master number
but...
which means?  Grin Grin Grin
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February 27, 2014, 01:22:56 PM
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Code:
"D:\Install document\Java\bin\java.exe" -Xmx1024M -cp nxt.jar;lib\*;conf nxt.Nxt
It works fine in my WIN7.
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February 27, 2014, 01:23:58 PM
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Revealed yet?

No, but 2nd part of the plan contains a hint. Read about transparency.

This is bad communication. Apparently I need to commit to pointing this out from now on.

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February 27, 2014, 01:25:20 PM
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I created a start.bat with these contents (none of them worked):

I think you'll need to replace the forward slashes with backslashes.

With CIYAM anyone can create 100% generated C++ web applications in literally minutes.

GPG Public Key | 1ciyam3htJit1feGa26p2wQ4aw6KFTejU
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February 27, 2014, 01:26:28 PM
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Since I'm not going to achieve psychic mindlock today with CfB and BCNext to get the information dump we all need, I'm gonna change the subject.  (Squirrel!!! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSUXXzN26zg )

There is a new coin on coinmarketcap.com just below NXT in market cap and that is Auroracoin.  If you don't know about Auroracoin, you should take a minute and read some about it.  It is a litecoin clone that is about to become an official government currency for Iceland.  Without going into gory details, the banking system in Iceland has had huge problems over the past few years and the government is desperate to engineer a reboot.  Thus Auroracoin.  It has a 50% pre-mine that is being held in trust and will be given out to the people of Iceland in 25 days.  They are encouraging activity to get tools in the hands of Icelanders to allow their easy use of this new currency.  


http://www.auroracoin.org/

http://theconversation.com/free-cash-for-iceland-but-it-pays-to-keep-cool-about-auroracoin-23061

The 64,000 NXT question is - could NXT somehow get on this bandwagon and become part of the Auroracoin management system via AE?  If we can get EVERYBODY IN ICELAND (population 300,000) owning NXT as a part of helping to manage their new Auroracoins...

great idea!!
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February 27, 2014, 01:28:36 PM
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Texas Bitcoin Conference NXT Marketing Brochure

I would like to thank bitcoinpaul, w4llace, LiQio, EvilDave and especially mvag for their prompt and generous assistance in revising my primitive, clumsy attempt at an NXT marketing brochure into this thing of beauty:

http://nxt.sx/images/resources/NXT-Brochure-4.pdf

It's still wordy, and that's my fault.  Still, This Is A Great Job.

And thank you again, generous donor, in funding 5000 copies of this to be printed at Austin, TX for my pickup there on Tuesday.

NxtMinnow, I will be sending you what I don't use in Austin for you to hand out in San Francisco.  Mail 'em on to the next Conference when you're done with them.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg5398685#msg5398685

Now, on to getting my new new2nxt.com website shaped up over this weekend...
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February 27, 2014, 01:29:11 PM
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Since I'm not going to achieve psychic mindlock today with CfB and BCNext to get the information dump we all need, I'm gonna change the subject.  (Squirrel!!! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSUXXzN26zg )

There is a new coin on coinmarketcap.com just below NXT in market cap and that is Auroracoin.  If you don't know about Auroracoin, you should take a minute and read some about it.  It is a litecoin clone that is about to become an official government currency for Iceland.  Without going into gory details, the banking system in Iceland has had huge problems over the past few years and the government is desperate to engineer a reboot.  Thus Auroracoin.  It has a 50% pre-mine that is being held in trust and will be given out to the people of Iceland in 25 days.  They are encouraging activity to get tools in the hands of Icelanders to allow their easy use of this new currency.  


http://www.auroracoin.org/

http://theconversation.com/free-cash-for-iceland-but-it-pays-to-keep-cool-about-auroracoin-23061

The 64,000 NXT question is - could NXT somehow get on this bandwagon and become part of the Auroracoin management system via AE?  If we can get EVERYBODY IN ICELAND (population 300,000) owning NXT as a part of helping to manage their new Auroracoins...


How could we help them? What is the next step? Should we contact the developers offering them our support?
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February 27, 2014, 01:29:38 PM
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Since I'm not going to achieve psychic mindlock today with CfB and BCNext to get the information dump we all need, I'm gonna change the subject.  (Squirrel!!! : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSUXXzN26zg )

There is a new coin on coinmarketcap.com just below NXT in market cap and that is Auroracoin.  If you don't know about Auroracoin, you should take a minute and read some about it.  It is a litecoin clone that is about to become an official government currency for Iceland.  Without going into gory details, the banking system in Iceland has had huge problems over the past few years and the government is desperate to engineer a reboot.  Thus Auroracoin.  It has a 50% pre-mine that is being held in trust and will be given out to the people of Iceland in 25 days.  They are encouraging activity to get tools in the hands of Icelanders to allow their easy use of this new currency.  


http://www.auroracoin.org/

http://theconversation.com/free-cash-for-iceland-but-it-pays-to-keep-cool-about-auroracoin-23061

The 64,000 NXT question is - could NXT somehow get on this bandwagon and become part of the Auroracoin management system via AE?  If we can get EVERYBODY IN ICELAND (population 300,000) owning NXT as a part of helping to manage their new Auroracoins...

Briljant! Iceland is going to have very cool experiment. If Auroracoin becomes a success, it will be great for the crypto coins. And maybe Nxt.
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