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March 14, 2014, 10:49:25 AM
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What are the current ideas of having coins on top of Nxt:

- Coins via Asset Exchange
- Coins as parallel blockchains
- Using AM (How? And is this idea dismissed?)
- ...?

What about this coin-via-AM? And is there another method for a coin-on-top of Nxt?
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March 14, 2014, 10:50:33 AM
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I vote for fundamental research (what James is doing right now with nodecoin) but don't mix it up with our Nxt branding.

I agree, too. That is what I was trying to convey and what should be conveyed clearly by James as well when he promotes nodecode. Am I right?

nodecoin is a product of James. So, he is responsible for it.

NXT is a product of the community. Se, they are responsible for it.
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March 14, 2014, 10:51:08 AM
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Hey James,

I really like the Idea of Nodecoins. Please don't let it die! If you need donations or something let me know, I can pitch some to you.
If someone doesn't like the idea of nodecoins, he can just refuse to use them. I see no way of how that layer can hurt us.

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March 14, 2014, 10:53:29 AM
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Why the price is keeping going down?
don't worry, price drop was caused by those 2 stakeholders:
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=4483676211889446810
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=12023091469145621022

but it was supported only by these:
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=12169060789793651904
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=18286075937885214016
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=14279129699678101070

Everyone else is buying, a lot! Bter's account is much smaller than a week ago. There are massive buyings in last week, thanks to these stakeholders, massive adoption
It's a bit of a disgrace they only pay 1 fee for sending al those hunderd-thousands of NXT. Sometimes I think the fees should be relative to the amount of NXT. Something like this:

< 10 000 NXT send = min. 1 NXT fee
10000-100000 NXT send = min. 10 NXT fee
100000-1000000 NXT send = min. 100 NXT fee
> 1000000 NXT send = min. 1000 NXT fee

In the future this could be, because we want to lower the fees:

< 10 000 NXT send = min. 0.01 NXT fee
10000-100000 NXT send = min. 0.1 NXT fee
100000-1000000 NXT send = min. 1 NXT fee
> 1000000 NXT send = min. 10 NXT fee
 

What are your thoughts? The big guys earn of the fees of the small guys now, so it's more fair if they pay more for transactions?

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March 14, 2014, 10:55:39 AM
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I vote for fundamental research (what James is doing right now with nodecoin) but don't mix it up with our Nxt branding.

I agree, too. That is what I was trying to convey and what should be conveyed clearly by James as well when he promotes nodecode. Am I right?

nodecoin is a product of James. So, he is responsible for it.

NXT is a product of the community. Se, they are responsible for it.

James could have created a Bitcoin fork called Nodecoin, but the decided to use the Nxt infrastructure for it. He gets coins as they are distributed to others. so this is his business. He has to make sure, that they will be worth anything. Not a community issue.

I think we should be thankfull to James for building it ontop of Nxt, instead of copying Bitcoin.

That´s all.
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March 14, 2014, 10:56:45 AM
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Offtopic: NRS has been working stable for more than one week. I'm missing days when we had all the blocks becoming orphaned. It was like playing Russian roulette, u never knew if there was at least one node that kept a copy of the blockchain...
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March 14, 2014, 10:56:48 AM
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What are your thoughts? The big guys earn of the fees of the small guys now, so it's more fair if they pay more for transactions?

I do not see why changing fees the way you described it would change that.
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March 14, 2014, 10:57:18 AM
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I think we should be thankfull to James

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March 14, 2014, 10:57:57 AM
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Offtopic

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March 14, 2014, 10:58:58 AM
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Offtopic: NRS has been working stable for more than one week. I'm missing days when we had all the blocks becoming orphaned. It was like playing Russian roulette, u never knew if there was at least one node that kept a copy of the blockchain...

What days are you referring to?
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March 14, 2014, 10:59:32 AM
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Why the price is keeping going down?
don't worry, price drop was caused by those 2 stakeholders:
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=4483676211889446810
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=12023091469145621022

but it was supported only by these:
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=12169060789793651904
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=18286075937885214016
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=14279129699678101070

Everyone else is buying, a lot! Bter's account is much smaller than a week ago. There are massive buyings in last week, thanks to these stakeholders, massive adoption
It's a bit of a disgrace they only pay 1 fee for sending al those hunderd-thousands of NXT. Sometimes I think the fees should be relative to the amount of NXT. Something like this:

< 10 000 NXT send = min. 1 NXT fee
10000-100000 NXT send = min. 10 NXT fee
100000-1000000 NXT send = min. 100 NXT fee
> 1000000 NXT send = min. 1000 NXT fee

In the future this could be, because we want to lower the fees:

< 10 000 NXT send = min. 0.01 NXT fee
10000-100000 NXT send = min. 0.1 NXT fee
100000-1000000 NXT send = min. 1 NXT fee
> 1000000 NXT send = min. 10 NXT fee
 

What are your thoughts? The big guys earn of the fees of the small guys now, so it's more fair if they pay more for transactions?


NRS UI automatically adjusts the fee based on amount, but allows you to manually override it (e.g. set it to 1).
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March 14, 2014, 11:00:14 AM
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Offtopic: NRS has been working stable for more than one week. I'm missing days when we had all the blocks becoming orphaned. It was like playing Russian roulette, u never knew if there was at least one node that keeped a copy of the blockchain...

Imagine that...  issues regarding NRS have become Offtopic...  ROFLMAO!    Grin

They are.

Issues are bookkept here: https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/issues?status=new&status=open
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March 14, 2014, 11:01:12 AM
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It's a bit of a disgrace they only pay 1 fee for sending al those hunderd-thousands of NXT. Sometimes I think the fees should be relative to the amount of NXT. Something like this:

< 10 000 NXT send = min. 1 NXT fee
10000-100000 NXT send = min. 10 NXT fee
100000-1000000 NXT send = min. 100 NXT fee
> 1000000 NXT send = min. 1000 NXT fee

In the future this could be, because we want to lower the fees:

< 10 000 NXT send = min. 0.01 NXT fee
10000-100000 NXT send = min. 0.1 NXT fee
100000-1000000 NXT send = min. 1 NXT fee
> 1000000 NXT send = min. 10 NXT fee
 

What are your thoughts? The big guys earn of the fees of the small guys now, so it's more fair if they pay more for transactions?

Fee should depend on data size coz it solves a technical problem (spam prevention). An attempt to make it depending on sent amount is an attempt to make the world more "fair". Don't mix technical and political/ethical problems, plz.
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March 14, 2014, 11:01:24 AM
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What are your thoughts? The big guys earn of the fees of the small guys now, so it's more fair if they pay more for transactions?

I do not see why changing fees the way you described it would change that.

To make that more clear: it has nothing to do with each other at all.

Earning fees is something completely different than spending them.
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March 14, 2014, 11:02:02 AM
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Fee should depend on data size coz it solves a technical problem (spam prevention). An attempt to make it depending on sent amount is an attempt to make the world more "fair". Don't mix technical and political/ethical problems, plz.

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March 14, 2014, 11:03:03 AM
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Why the price is keeping going down?
don't worry, price drop was caused by those 2 stakeholders:
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=4483676211889446810
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=12023091469145621022

but it was supported only by these:
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=12169060789793651904
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=18286075937885214016
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=2000&tra=14279129699678101070

Everyone else is buying, a lot! Bter's account is much smaller than a week ago. There are massive buyings in last week, thanks to these stakeholders, massive adoption
It's a bit of a disgrace they only pay 1 fee for sending al those hunderd-thousands of NXT. Sometimes I think the fees should be relative to the amount of NXT. Something like this:

< 10 000 NXT send = min. 1 NXT fee
10000-100000 NXT send = min. 10 NXT fee
100000-1000000 NXT send = min. 100 NXT fee
> 1000000 NXT send = min. 1000 NXT fee

In the future this could be, because we want to lower the fees:

< 10 000 NXT send = min. 0.01 NXT fee
10000-100000 NXT send = min. 0.1 NXT fee
100000-1000000 NXT send = min. 1 NXT fee
> 1000000 NXT send = min. 10 NXT fee
 

What are your thoughts? The big guys earn of the fees of the small guys now, so it's more fair if they pay more for transactions?


I agree +1
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March 14, 2014, 11:04:52 AM
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Offtopic: NRS has been working stable for more than one week. I'm missing days when we had all the blocks becoming orphaned. It was like playing Russian roulette, u never knew if there was at least one node that kept a copy of the blockchain...
Now I can sleep!  Wink

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March 14, 2014, 11:05:42 AM
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Offtopic: NRS has been working stable for more than one week. I'm missing days when we had all the blocks becoming orphaned. It was like playing Russian roulette, u never knew if there was at least one node that kept a copy of the blockchain...

What days are you referring to?

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March 14, 2014, 11:06:55 AM
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Fee should depend on data size coz it solves a technical problem (spam prevention).

I like it. Let's discuss.
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March 14, 2014, 11:07:50 AM
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how would i go about running a node? its not possible for me to leave a computer running all the time... (renting a room and my laptop is LOUD) so cant leave it running.. is there anything else i can do?

raspberry pi / cubietruck.
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