Devcoin

[Icoin]

DVB presents: Devcoin@RPI

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101559.msg1308072#msg1308072

RPI DVC Address:
1M4ieZZ3suuZnqb9BELfvaR9mRiNersUfk

[jasinlee]

DVB Broke 100 DVC per share woot!

[pyra-proxy]

DVB presents: Devcoin@RPI

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101559.msg1308072#msg1308072

NICE!

[Unthinkingbit]

Thanks for putting devcoin on the Raspberry Pi. The RPI address will get 4 generation shares in round 17:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34586.msg1271093#msg1271093

The next person who puts devcoin on the Raspberry Pi will get the remaining 2 share award.

[Icoin]

Devcoin Backup Server IP changed: please use http://92.105.105.155/devcoin/

[markm]

Devcoin Backup Server IP changed: please use http://92.105.105.155/devcoin/

IP? Have you heard of DNS? What are we supposed to do with that IP number?

The whole point of DNS is so the number can be changed and everything still "just works".

If it changes often then dynamic DNS comes into play.

What is this so called "server" supposed to be, anyway?

I see you have receiver files there, the last thing we need is another fly by night receiver-file "server", people still keep having problems because we already had one of those way back when...

-MarkM-

[Icoin]

I see you have receiver files there, the last thing we need is another fly by night receiver-file "server", people still keep having problems because we already had one of those way back when...

Is good that you can see, otherwise you couldnt look through the thread.

This is the second time you offend me realy unmodest. When You are in the core team and think you have to contiune with this, i realy start to doubt that the Devcoin Team is something i should work with. Or you simply dont understand what it means to produce results and just do what you can to jeopardize this project?

There is a certain reason why i use a IP instead of a DNS.
Concerning the Server i give you a hint, cause it seems to hard for you to follow this thread:
https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/bounty_17.csv

[markm]

I still do not understand the puroose.

If it is to serve as a receiver file repository it should have a DNS name, putting IP addresses into the files that people will be using for years to come to look up the historical repositories of receiver files is not a good idea.

Even putting a host that was on DNS turned out badly because the guy flew by night within I think less than even a single year.

If it is not intended to serve as one of the repositories the clients consult to reach a consensus as to who receives how many shares of which blocks, then I do not understand why we even need to know about it.

-MarkM-

[pyra-proxy]

I still do not understand the puroose.

If it is to serve as a receiver file repository it should have a DNS name, putting IP addresses into the files that people will be using for years to come to look up the historical repositories of receiver files is not a good idea.

Even putting a host that was on DNS turned out badly because the guy flew by night within I think less than even a single year.

If it is not intended to serve as one of the repositories the clients consult to reach a consensus as to who receives how many shares of which blocks, then I do not understand why we even need to know about it.

-MarkM-

Markm I think icoin makes a good point that you should think about toning down the level of constructive criticism, its OK to question things but you've been a little harsh about it.  I felt similar about the interactions we've had as well.  I know you mean well but just asking that you take a little less stand off ish approach to it.  DVC is still a fledgling community that is starting to see some positive activity but as icoin accurately points out if this is the reaction that new developments always get then it will discourage continued work and possible worse still slow more newcomers from adding even more into the ecosystem of DVC.

[markm]

I still do not understand what we are intended to do with that IP address. Is it intended that it be recorded somewhere? Is it intended that it will have DNS mapped to it and it will be kept online 24/7 pretty mcuh "forever" as one of the places (of which an odd number are needed because a majority must always be able to be computed) that will be listed in the devcoin system's files as a go-to place to check for consensus about the contents of the receiver files? Is it going to also have downloads of the actual software?

I just do not understand what it is supposed to be.

-MarkM-

[Icoin]

I still do not understand what we are intended to do with that IP address. Is it intended that it be recorded somewhere? Is it intended that it will have DNS mapped to it and it will be kept online 24/7 pretty mcuh "forever" as one of the places (of which an odd number are needed because a majority must always be able to be computed) that will be listed in the devcoin system's files as a go-to place to check for consensus about the contents of the receiver files? Is it going to also have downloads of the actual software?

I just do not understand what it is supposed to be.

I provide hosting of the cvs files (Backup Server) according to the Devcoin task: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34586.msg889087#msg889087

I had to switch the  IP, so i announced the new IP for the Backup Server, since the DNS trough solidelement.ch and the old IP became invalid.  
It should be mapped by devcoin.org.

There is the valid domain not updated since allmost a year, its a raw drupal based cms, the cms could be actualized and get a bether template.
For example it can be then extended trough a devcoin modified http://drupal.org/project/uc_bitcoin or a DVC Wallet Function etc. There are various options possible and open for discussion.

Please keep in mind that according to me the Devcoin Team works with skilled people, with a adult, serious and responsible mind seting.
Postings like:

Yes, all other currencies are unthethical! Bwahahaha! Smiley

Doesnt look very adult, serious or responsible, to me.
I realy hope i was able express my constructive criticism in a way you understand.

[Unthinkingbit]

The backup files are not used in the receiver tree, no devcoin clients look at them. Their only purpose is to demonstrate that someone can become a file administrator if an administrator leaves. If we asked for another file administrator, someone could promise to upload files quickly and reliably. However, some people who were enthusiastic about devcoin lost interest and the only way to know that someone will keep uploading files is for them to actually do it for a long time.

A file administrator gets 2/5 of a generation share. Since these backup files are not used, this task only gets 1/5 of a generation share. It's unlikely that current or future file administrators will suddenly drop out without a replacement being ready, but it could happen and this is cheap insurance.

[Icoin]

Devcoin symbol and sign proposal:

http://glari.ch:3000/attachments/download/27/DS.svg


http://glari.ch:3000/attachments/download/28/DSv1.svg

[markm]

Ahhh, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34586.msg889087#msg889087

Thanks for the link.

Well I suppose if backups are hoped not to have to be used maybe an IP is okay but I do suggest we not put IP addresses in the real files.

Since DeVCoin addresses are identical to BiTCoin addresses, that Drupal module should be trivially easy to modify since all that should need to change is the port number to connect to and the name of the currency.

The port number possibly would already be configurable in whatever kind of admin config system it uses, so maybe the name of the currency should also be configurable then it should work for any altcoin that has the RPC calls that it uses.

-MarkM-

[Unthinkingbit]

Devcoin symbol and sign proposal:
..

Hi Icoin,

Thanks for the symbol and logo.

I suggest a two generation share award for this. Also, I suggest a bounty of 3/5 of a share for the next five devcoin symbols. Also 3/5 of a share for the next five devcoin logos, 2/5 for the next five logos and 1/5 for the last five logos. The bounty would not be awarded if a symbol or logo is too similar to a previous image, including the current logo at devtome:
http://devtome.org/wiki/skins/devcoinlogo1.png

Are there any objections?

Edit: Nine logos have been made:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34586.msg1436630#msg1436630
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153960.msg1631723#msg1631723
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34586.msg1646040#msg1646040
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34586.msg1802955#msg1802955
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34586.msg1872397#msg1872397
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34586.msg2127742#msg2127742
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34586.msg2248232#msg2248232
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34586.msg2251061#msg2251061
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34586.msg2258878#msg2258878

One 2/5 of a share award remains.

[Icoin]

I suggest a two generation share award for this.

Thank you Unthinkingbit.

250 000 000 DVC buy request: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122452.0

[Unthinkingbit]

Jedi95, Simplecoin or Vinced have stopped developing.  Btc_artist is no longer mirroring devtome. So they've all been dropped until they start doing stuff again.

[Unthinkingbit]

The round 17 devtome word earnings are pasted below and at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome_bounty_17.csv

121Pb2BBrU7C61vBdWCKVuFFmaEZr6xFAX-Knotwork,7-Word Count(http://devtome.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Knotwork&action=edit)
17vec4jQGCzMEsTnivizHPaowE715tu2CB-Unthinkingbit,10-Word Count(http://devtome.org/wiki/index.php?title=User:Unthinkingbit&action=edit)

They are generated by tomecount.py:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/tomecount.py

The word counts for each writer are at:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/tomecount.csv

The word earnings were generated on 2012-11-08, and the total word counts follow below.

Collated Word Count: 53,721
Collated Weighted Word Count: 16,116
Images: 8
Original Word Count: 118,418
Total Word Count: 172,139
Total Weighted Word Count: 134,614

From statistics:
http://devtome.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Statistics

Views total: 73,603
Content pages: 120

[jasinlee]

There has been speculation about the amount of devcoin available in CIRCULATION, I theorized 20% as the majority are held for projects and bounties and other items. Does anyone have an accurate number so I can answer these questions others keep asking. I think this may impact dvc price on the exchanges as people seem to think there are a couple billion floating around, when in reality I feel its closer to 50million in circulation?

[doublec]

There has been speculation about the amount of devcoin available in CIRCULATION, I theorized 20% as the majority are held for projects and bounties and other items. Does anyone have an accurate number so I can answer these questions others keep asking. I think this may impact dvc price on the exchanges as people seem to think there are a couple billion floating around, when in reality I feel its closer to 50million in circulation?

A large number go towards the open source developers don't they? I suspect many receiving them don't even know, or have forgotten, they are getting them.