Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.

[galdur]

Ivar Giaever: Global Warming Revisited (2015)

Nobel Peace prize scientist and (former) Obama supporter turned global warming dissenter (gasp) reveals the scientific 'data' behind global warming 'science', which he describes as a new religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk60CUkf3Kw

[Spendulus]

Cutting back on available energy will kill literally millions of poor people who are on the edge.  I'll grumble a bit about being gouged, but I'll be fine.  What people who have a simplistic understanding of systems think is that people will pay a bit more for gas in their SUV's here in the U.S. and their mopeds in the developing world.  

Hello.  Cutting back on available energy will be hard on the poor.  Not cutting back on available energy - at least if we're talking solely about energy from fossil fuels - will be harder on the poor.  And running out of fossil fuels will happen eventually (and probably at a time that won't be that much different) regardless of AGW or doing anything about it.

Unless we get smart enough to develop some other sources of energy, the poor are effing screwed.  So let's get with the damn program and try something else already.

And in the 1880s-1890s scientists were puzzled when they found that combustion of coal could not account for the energy output of the sun.  They could not have dreamed of our world or our understandings of today.  But you would glibly assume a "problem" 100+ years hence?

If so then be my guest, make a fortune in the stock market or Vegas, with far easier predictions.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Ivar Giaever: Global Warming Revisited (2015)

Nobel Peace prize scientist and (former) Obama supporter turned global warming dissenter (gasp) reveals the scientific 'data' behind global warming 'science', which he describes as a new religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk60CUkf3Kw

Really interesting video. Thanks for sharing it.

I never really believed in it, but I never cared enough to look into it, to argue about it and just didn't care. Still don't really. But I find it interesting to see the comparisons that scientists believe in it like a religion, and won't discuss being wrong, the "incontrovertible truth" he talks about.

Of course banning the opposition, the deniers, in Reddit, is just like banning atheists from religious forums.

[Spendulus]

Ivar Giaever: Global Warming Revisited (2015)

Nobel Peace prize scientist and (former) Obama supporter turned global warming dissenter (gasp) reveals the scientific 'data' behind global warming 'science', which he describes as a new religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk60CUkf3Kw

Really interesting video. Thanks for sharing it.

I never really believed in it, but I never cared enough to look into it, to argue about it and just didn't care. Still don't really. But I find it interesting to see the comparisons that scientists believe in it like a religion, and won't discuss being wrong, the "incontrovertible truth" he talks about.

Of course banning the opposition, the deniers, in Reddit, is just like banning atheists from religious forums.

It's important to keep in mind that religicizing the looming threat of Global Cooling is no different and no better than the situation with Global Warming.

Or if "deniers" were to adopt religious patterns of faith and belief, instead of critical thinking and rigid adherence to scientific examination.

Just saying.

[Spendulus]

Ivar Giaever: Global Warming Revisited (2015)

Nobel Peace prize scientist and (former) Obama supporter turned global warming dissenter (gasp) reveals the scientific 'data' behind global warming 'science', which he describes as a new religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk60CUkf3Kw

Model of sun's internal dynamics.  97% ACCURACY??

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/07/150709092955.htm

[Wilikon]

Ivar Giaever: Global Warming Revisited (2015)

Nobel Peace prize scientist and (former) Obama supporter turned global warming dissenter (gasp) reveals the scientific 'data' behind global warming 'science', which he describes as a new religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk60CUkf3Kw

Model of sun's internal dynamics.  97% ACCURACY??

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/07/150709092955.htm

"97%"... We meet again.

 

[Spendulus]

Ivar Giaever: Global Warming Revisited (2015)

Nobel Peace prize scientist and (former) Obama supporter turned global warming dissenter (gasp) reveals the scientific 'data' behind global warming 'science', which he describes as a new religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk60CUkf3Kw

Model of sun's internal dynamics.  97% ACCURACY??

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/07/150709092955.htm

"97%"... We meet again.

 

You mean, a statistical 97% accuracy in predicting global cooling NOW MEETS a made up, politically driven, 97% opinion that we are headed for global warming?

Now that's rather interesting.

[Wilikon]

Ivar Giaever: Global Warming Revisited (2015)

Nobel Peace prize scientist and (former) Obama supporter turned global warming dissenter (gasp) reveals the scientific 'data' behind global warming 'science', which he describes as a new religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk60CUkf3Kw

Model of sun's internal dynamics.  97% ACCURACY??

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/07/150709092955.htm

"97%"... We meet again.

 

You mean, a statistical 97% accuracy in predicting global cooling NOW MEETS a made up, politically driven, 97% opinion that we are headed for global warming?

Now that's rather interesting.

No such thing as coincidence. This is an undeniable proof of a scientific miracle.

[Wilikon]

Study Urges Media To Frame Global Warming As Global Warming Climate Change A ‘Public Health’ Problem

A new study is urging activists and the media to talk less about how global warming will impact the environment and more about how it will negatively impact public health. Framing global warming as a public health issue, the study says, will convince people to support policies to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.

“When framed as an environmental problem, this interpretation likely distances many people from the issue and contributes to a lack of serious and sustained public engagement necessary to develop solutions,” reads a new study published in the journal Environmental Communication.

The study urges activists to use the legitimacy of the media to barrage the public with coverage on how global warming could make public health problems worse, like asthma and mosquito-born illnesses. Activists must keep the narrative alive in the media until the public believes it to be true, the study argues.

“It is our contention, then, that environmental and health advocates need to do what they can to foster the increased usage of public health frames in climate change news and also boost the total level of quality climate change reportage,” the study’s authors urge. “After all, the use of an engaging and effective news frame may not matter if the legitimacy of the issue is called into question by dwindling coverage.”

This new study basically lays out the same strategy the Obama administration has adopted when it comes to global warming. The White House has made great efforts to link global warming to personal afflictions, like asthma or heat strokes. The administration recently hosted a national summit with doctors, nurses and activists to urge medical professionals to tell patients about the alleged dangers of warming.

“We also need doctors, nurses and citizens, like all of you,” Obama said in a taped speech at last month’s summit, “to get to work to raise awareness and organize folks for real change.”


http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/13/study-urges-media-to-frame-global-warming-as-a-public-health-problem/#ixzz3fneCFPru

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Study Urges Media To Frame Global Warming As Global Warming Climate Change A ‘Public Health’ Problem


A new study is urging activists and the media to talk less about how global warming will impact the environment and more about how it will negatively impact public health. Framing global warming as a public health issue, the study says, will convince people to support policies to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.

“When framed as an environmental problem, this interpretation likely distances many people from the issue and contributes to a lack of serious and sustained public engagement necessary to develop solutions,” reads a new study published in the journal Environmental Communication.

The study urges activists to use the legitimacy of the media to barrage the public with coverage on how global warming could make public health problems worse, like asthma and mosquito-born illnesses. Activists must keep the narrative alive in the media until the public believes it to be true, the study argues.

“It is our contention, then, that environmental and health advocates need to do what they can to foster the increased usage of public health frames in climate change news and also boost the total level of quality climate change reportage,” the study’s authors urge. “After all, the use of an engaging and effective news frame may not matter if the legitimacy of the issue is called into question by dwindling coverage.”

This new study basically lays out the same strategy the Obama administration has adopted when it comes to global warming. The White House has made great efforts to link global warming to personal afflictions, like asthma or heat strokes. The administration recently hosted a national summit with doctors, nurses and activists to urge medical professionals to tell patients about the alleged dangers of warming.

“We also need doctors, nurses and citizens, like all of you,” Obama said in a taped speech at last month’s summit, “to get to work to raise awareness and organize folks for real change.”


http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/13/study-urges-media-to-frame-global-warming-as-a-public-health-problem/#ixzz3fneCFPru

Pretty bold of them. Wonder why they have to change their message to get people to believe them....

[Wilikon]

Study Urges Media To Frame Global Warming As Global Warming Climate Change A ‘Public Health’ Problem


A new study is urging activists and the media to talk less about how global warming will impact the environment and more about how it will negatively impact public health. Framing global warming as a public health issue, the study says, will convince people to support policies to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.

“When framed as an environmental problem, this interpretation likely distances many people from the issue and contributes to a lack of serious and sustained public engagement necessary to develop solutions,” reads a new study published in the journal Environmental Communication.

The study urges activists to use the legitimacy of the media to barrage the public with coverage on how global warming could make public health problems worse, like asthma and mosquito-born illnesses. Activists must keep the narrative alive in the media until the public believes it to be true, the study argues.

“It is our contention, then, that environmental and health advocates need to do what they can to foster the increased usage of public health frames in climate change news and also boost the total level of quality climate change reportage,” the study’s authors urge. “After all, the use of an engaging and effective news frame may not matter if the legitimacy of the issue is called into question by dwindling coverage.”

This new study basically lays out the same strategy the Obama administration has adopted when it comes to global warming. The White House has made great efforts to link global warming to personal afflictions, like asthma or heat strokes. The administration recently hosted a national summit with doctors, nurses and activists to urge medical professionals to tell patients about the alleged dangers of warming.

“We also need doctors, nurses and citizens, like all of you,” Obama said in a taped speech at last month’s summit, “to get to work to raise awareness and organize folks for real change.”


http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/13/study-urges-media-to-frame-global-warming-as-a-public-health-problem/#ixzz3fneCFPru

Pretty bold of them. Wonder why they have to change their message to get people to believe them....

Join 0bamacare. Save a Polar Bear™

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Study Urges Media To Frame Global Warming As Global Warming Climate Change A ‘Public Health’ Problem


A new study is urging activists and the media to talk less about how global warming will impact the environment and more about how it will negatively impact public health. Framing global warming as a public health issue, the study says, will convince people to support policies to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.

“When framed as an environmental problem, this interpretation likely distances many people from the issue and contributes to a lack of serious and sustained public engagement necessary to develop solutions,” reads a new study published in the journal Environmental Communication.

The study urges activists to use the legitimacy of the media to barrage the public with coverage on how global warming could make public health problems worse, like asthma and mosquito-born illnesses. Activists must keep the narrative alive in the media until the public believes it to be true, the study argues.

“It is our contention, then, that environmental and health advocates need to do what they can to foster the increased usage of public health frames in climate change news and also boost the total level of quality climate change reportage,” the study’s authors urge. “After all, the use of an engaging and effective news frame may not matter if the legitimacy of the issue is called into question by dwindling coverage.”

This new study basically lays out the same strategy the Obama administration has adopted when it comes to global warming. The White House has made great efforts to link global warming to personal afflictions, like asthma or heat strokes. The administration recently hosted a national summit with doctors, nurses and activists to urge medical professionals to tell patients about the alleged dangers of warming.

“We also need doctors, nurses and citizens, like all of you,” Obama said in a taped speech at last month’s summit, “to get to work to raise awareness and organize folks for real change.”


http://dailycaller.com/2015/07/13/study-urges-media-to-frame-global-warming-as-a-public-health-problem/#ixzz3fneCFPru

Pretty bold of them. Wonder why they have to change their message to get people to believe them....

Join 0bamacare. Save a Polar Bear™

Thanks for the laugh.

[Wilikon]

#GlobalWarmingLifeMatter ?

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Al Sharpton is never wrong...

[Spendulus]

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Al Sharpton is never wrong...

...when he plays his Uncle Tom role and follows the money trail?

[Wilikon]

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Al Sharpton is never wrong...

...when he plays his Uncle Tom role and follows the money trail?

That's... That's not fair to uncle toms......

[Spendulus]

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Al Sharpton is never wrong...

...when he plays his Uncle Tom role and follows the money trail?

That's... That's not fair to uncle toms......

But CLIMATE CHANGE created ISIS!

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/07/20/martin-omalley-climate-change-created-isis

[Wilikon]

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Al Sharpton is never wrong...

...when he plays his Uncle Tom role and follows the money trail?

That's... That's not fair to uncle toms......

But CLIMATE CHANGE created ISIS!

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/07/20/martin-omalley-climate-change-created-isis

[Wilikon]

[tvbcof]

With respect to Seattle's 'urban fires', it is worth remembering that in King county they sprung a '65-10' plan on property owners which effectively kept them from so much as building a treehouse on 65% of their property.  As I remember it.  I'm hardly surprised that there is enough fuel to burn everyone out now.  I know I've a conspiratorial mind, but I have wondered for some time whether 'burning people out' in order to consolidate them to more eco-friendly 'human habitats' is one of the strategies.  Inducing or at least leveraging disasters in order to clear areas of human pests is nothing new.  In my state we had the Vanport floods which cleared certain areas of people who, after the major production associated with WW-II was done, were no longer needed or desired.

It continues to be the strongest hypothesis in my mind that 'man made global warming' is exactly that.  Primarily a figment of imagination with some very useful elements which help achieve some wide reaching goals.  Cramming people into stack-n-pack 'habitats' would be one.  Here's a vid I found which is almost certainly much closer to what life will be like when those who manage the greenies and have them brainwashed about climate change achieve their goal:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY18xJl1WhU  I would love to know what movie the clip starting at around 2:45 is from, BTW, if anyone knows.

What I find most ominous is the recent surge in interest in having the state take over pretty much full control of 'herd immunity'.  There is an unmistakable push toward mandatory vaccines of late.  That is just flat scary.  The idea is clearly to have 'urban islands' surrounded by controlled green space and what transport does happen is primarily via public transportation.  Just as it is only really possible to keep livestock in a feed-lot alive by use of massive amounts of medicine, so would it be densely packed human populations.  Any population which got restive could be very easily controlled simply be witholding the medications needed for them to sustain with their weakened immune systems.

[Wilikon]

New York Approves First U.S. Climate Change Museum

The plan for a museum in New York City that would focus on climate and climate change, with exhibits that could relate to health, social justice and rain-delayed baseball games, moved a step forward Monday, officials said.

The state Board of Regents, meeting in Albany, New York, approved a five-year provisional charter for the museum, Regents spokesman Tom Dunn said.

The vote means “there is absolutely going to be a museum,” said Miranda Massie, executive director of the Climate Museum Launch Project. She said the museum is now “empowered to hold collections in trust for the public.”

Supporters say it would be the nation’s first climate museum.“


http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/east/2015/07/22/376052.htm


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I hope this museum will be carbon neutral. No A.C. please.