SvenTaylor1980
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January 04, 2014, 10:32:15 PM |
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Personally i don't mind, as i'm keeping my coins for a longer while anyway. I only made that mistake once with PPC. A couple of weeks ago it was falling like a rock down to $1.97 / PPC. I sold and was pissed of that it was rising straight after my sell. I then had to buy back in at $2.90 / PPC. That way i lost a huge ammount. That will not happen again, at least not to me.
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tins
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January 04, 2014, 10:34:18 PM |
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someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....
can anyone be more obvious?
Yes, i see it and right after we broke through the downtrend.... how curious... A welcome from the pre-miners at the exchange? I've actually traded on real (stock) markets. I've traded pennystocks as well. I've actually done this myself. it's such a common tactic that only works on very low volume markets.
put up a huge order that can not be filled by the current volume and force people who need to/want to sell to underbid you.
this creates falling prices, and make people who are not even online, but put automatic sell orders in place if prices drop to XXX to sell their shares, creating more pressure downwards. all the while you sold little or nothing yourself.
then when it does not go down any more, you sack in shares and voila! win...
and that's not a wild theory. that's what drives these markets.
once volume is high enough this will be too risky... people might actually buy the whole block, like someone did yesterday to one who had done this for hours with a 400-500k block. he bought the whole block at 250 or so...
if the preminers wanted to sell, really sell, they'd put up small orders that do not look conspicuous and that will actually be sold and NOT underbid +1 You guys want to study good fear/greed tactics, stare at the btc-e books and refresh a lot or look at the deep books of bitcoin.clarkmoody.com and you'll start to see how market makers work (sometimes they work in groups or one guy+many machines/accounts building up 5+ fake walls on both sides cornering pricing to their differential of choice and moving whatever direction they want). This is a textbook fakeout, and to those that know the game, it's a good look for overall big picture (a market maker believes it's going to rise). Same thing happened literally 2 hours before Cryptsy listed Lotto. It would be suspicious if Cryptsy adds EAC in a couple hours...
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alz
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January 04, 2014, 10:41:38 PM |
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It would be suspicious if Cryptsy adds EAC in a couple hours... Sure would!
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BTC - 1GJ2dWf8WBznTtkuuof3WTBXQAULaqVGYj LTC - LTyCKKCGHJQZwsh5YhyzGeee4womQwChUU DASH - Xp5pq62dgJxmbhawyNtWMKT9Rst8JgNCY7
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earthcoin (OP)
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January 04, 2014, 10:41:55 PM |
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It's on a few exchanges, funny scenario:
Coinex needs only a tiny amount of btc to pump it - another market maker notices it's flying on coinex, and checks coinedup, and buys this guys fake walls in one shot. Don't be surprised to start seeing this kind of stuff as we attract some of the bigger players once we hit bigger exchanges.
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mrbrdo
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January 04, 2014, 10:46:47 PM |
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Then explain the blur pattern just to the right of Vern's photo...
You guys are unbelievable.. First of all, if would someone want to fake it, then he doesn't have to photoshop a stupid skype screenshot. You can simple make new skype account with same picture and name. And why to hell does it even matter, we will see in few days if it goes on cryptsy or not. Sorry, but you're really ridiculous with cryptsy and this conspiracy things. +1 The blur is from the poster smudging info he want to keep private,what do you think it signifies? I mean that the blur suddenly cuts off at the right edge of the photo, and therefore looks like the screenshot was first blurred and then the photo was copied there afterwards. If your on a laptop try to tilt the screen backwards a bit, you will see it clearer. Don't get me wrong I am invested in this coin and have all interest for it to succeed, but I just find it weird how that looks. what I'm gonna say is not about this case here... it's a general advice for people who are drawn to this kind of conclusions:
a) how much work would it be if it was fake and made not to look "suspicious"?
I recon less than blurring parts of the picture. just make a screenshot of only the text and simply state it's Vern, or copy parte the picture ontop of another picture without blurring anything....
b) this is not a thing that's far in the future anyway. why make a claim that will be proven false next week? makes no sense
c) motive alone proves nothing. that is the go-to "proof" of conspiracy theorists. make up some motive, even if it's a bat shit crazy one, like "Bush wanted war, so he blew up the twin towers"
motive is often nothing than your own projections onto a subject. e.g. people who already subconsciously sympathize with Muslim extremists anyway cause they hate the Jews, project a convenient "motive" onto someone else, who not only takes away a feeling of guilt, but also takes the blame and reinforces their own beliefs
it's a circular way of thinking that can not be proven wrong OR right in the mind of the believer. and that's what makes it so dangerous. it locks you into a state of mind that limits your capability of doubting your own beliefs
think about that... just some general advice to the "cui bono" crowdI didn't say there is any motive. I'm just saying it's really weird. The only plausible explanation I can come up with is they wanted to not show his real Skype picture. This doesn't really affect my view of EAC though, at least not yet.
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earthcoin (OP)
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January 04, 2014, 10:55:24 PM |
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Then explain the blur pattern just to the right of Vern's photo...
You guys are unbelievable.. First of all, if would someone want to fake it, then he doesn't have to photoshop a stupid skype screenshot. You can simple make new skype account with same picture and name. And why to hell does it even matter, we will see in few days if it goes on cryptsy or not. Sorry, but you're really ridiculous with cryptsy and this conspiracy things. +1 The blur is from the poster smudging info he want to keep private,what do you think it signifies? I mean that the blur suddenly cuts off at the right edge of the photo, and therefore looks like the screenshot was first blurred and then the photo was copied there afterwards. If your on a laptop try to tilt the screen backwards a bit, you will see it clearer. Don't get me wrong I am invested in this coin and have all interest for it to succeed, but I just find it weird how that looks. what I'm gonna say is not about this case here... it's a general advice for people who are drawn to this kind of conclusions:
a) how much work would it be if it was fake and made not to look "suspicious"?
I recon less than blurring parts of the picture. just make a screenshot of only the text and simply state it's Vern, or copy parte the picture ontop of another picture without blurring anything....
b) this is not a thing that's far in the future anyway. why make a claim that will be proven false next week? makes no sense
c) motive alone proves nothing. that is the go-to "proof" of conspiracy theorists. make up some motive, even if it's a bat shit crazy one, like "Bush wanted war, so he blew up the twin towers"
motive is often nothing than your own projections onto a subject. e.g. people who already subconsciously sympathize with Muslim extremists anyway cause they hate the Jews, project a convenient "motive" onto someone else, who not only takes away a feeling of guilt, but also takes the blame and reinforces their own beliefs
it's a circular way of thinking that can not be proven wrong OR right in the mind of the believer. and that's what makes it so dangerous. it locks you into a state of mind that limits your capability of doubting your own beliefs
think about that... just some general advice to the "cui bono" crowdI didn't say there is any motive. I'm just saying it's really weird. The only plausible explanation I can come up with is they wanted to not show his real Skype picture. This doesn't really affect my view of EAC though, at least not yet. There is nothing fake about the screenshot mate, I took it myself, I blurred out important info myself, that's his original picture and that's the same pic he uses on his twitter stuff, nothing was altered, pasted, removed, replaced. Contact Paul yourself and ask him to quantify it .
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meade16
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January 04, 2014, 10:56:43 PM |
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someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....
can anyone be more obvious?
It's gone.
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mrbrdo
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January 04, 2014, 10:58:08 PM |
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There is nothing fake about the screenshot mate, I took it myself, I blurred out important info myself, that's his original picture and that's the same pic he uses on his twitter stuff, nothing was altered, pasted, removed, replaced. Contact Paul yourself and ask him to quantify it . It's not really important. But I am curious why the blur of the text to the right of the picture suddenly stops (it should be a ellipse/circle but it is cut on the left side, next to the picture). Just to satisfy my curiosity...
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earthcoin (OP)
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January 04, 2014, 11:02:17 PM |
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There is nothing fake about the screenshot mate, I took it myself, I blurred out important info myself, that's his original picture and that's the same pic he uses on his twitter stuff, nothing was altered, pasted, removed, replaced. Contact Paul yourself and ask him to quantify it . It's not really important. But I am curious why the blur of the text to the right of the picture suddenly stops (it should be a ellipse/circle but it is cut on the left side, next to the picture). Just to satisfy my curiosity... In photoshop you simply draw a shape/box/whatever around whatever area you want and give it a guassian blur in order to blur it. There's also 101 other treatments/sequences to achieve the same but that's what I did, there's no 'fade edges' on this blur it just blurs right to the edge of my marquee selection which was a bunch of rectangles not circles. EDIT: No offense taken and glad to satisfy your curiosity, if you had doubts then others might as well, so it's good for all to understand.
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mrbrdo
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January 04, 2014, 11:06:20 PM |
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There is nothing fake about the screenshot mate, I took it myself, I blurred out important info myself, that's his original picture and that's the same pic he uses on his twitter stuff, nothing was altered, pasted, removed, replaced. Contact Paul yourself and ask him to quantify it . It's not really important. But I am curious why the blur of the text to the right of the picture suddenly stops (it should be a ellipse/circle but it is cut on the left side, next to the picture). Just to satisfy my curiosity... In photoshop you simply draw a shape/box/whatever around whatever area you want and give it a guassian blur in order to blur it. There's also 101 other treatments/sequences to achieve the same but that's what I did, there's no 'fade edges' on this blur it just blurs right to the edge of my marquee selection which was a bunch of rectangles not circles. Makes sense now Cool. I did not doubt that there is shady stuff going on btw, just curious.
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testbitcoiner
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January 04, 2014, 11:11:19 PM |
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someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....
can anyone be more obvious?
It's gone. just saw it, too..... it'll appear again if we get back to 500, I bet... they'll do this until we hit cryptsy
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January 04, 2014, 11:16:25 PM |
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http://earth.coinium.org/ failing hard, 46 minutes without a single block...gone to hackshard !
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testbitcoiner
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January 04, 2014, 11:24:55 PM |
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someone just put a 5.9 million sell order on coined up at 450 satoshi....
can anyone be more obvious?
It's gone. just saw it again on 699... he moved it into his old holding-pattern 4.9 mil at 699 which was not there when we had the order at 450
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vlight
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January 04, 2014, 11:29:31 PM |
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There is nothing fake about the screenshot mate, I took it myself, I blurred out important info myself, that's his original picture and that's the same pic he uses on his twitter stuff, nothing was altered, pasted, removed, replaced. Contact Paul yourself and ask him to quantify it . It's not really important. But I am curious why the blur of the text to the right of the picture suddenly stops (it should be a ellipse/circle but it is cut on the left side, next to the picture). Just to satisfy my curiosity... Dude, he even forgot to blur some places initially. That screenshot is not fake. It's all good.
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January 04, 2014, 11:34:04 PM |
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To the Moon to all those who dump I guarantee it is gonna come back to bite you!!
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illodin
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January 04, 2014, 11:38:00 PM |
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A bit off topic, but why do the exchanges work like that, that you have to buy the whole sell amount? If someone wants to sell at certain price, seller should be happy to sell at least some of it instead of selling 0.
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Treggar
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January 04, 2014, 11:39:20 PM |
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A bit off topic, but why do the exchanges work like that, that you have to buy the whole sell amount? If someone wants to sell at certain price, seller should be happy to sell at least some of it instead of selling 0.
coinedup fills partial orders
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Mikellev
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January 04, 2014, 11:40:34 PM |
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eac.poolerino.com closed registration for now, we are near 50% of the network... and dont wanne takeover another one tonight...
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tins
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January 04, 2014, 11:49:00 PM |
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eac.poolerino.com closed registration for now, we are near 50% of the network... and dont wanne takeover another one tonight...
Great. I love the integrity! You guys are alright.
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