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March 02, 2014, 08:28:58 PM
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Micon, I've always played on the web client and I looked into downloading the client today.  My anti virus flagged it as unsafe.  Do you know why this could be?  I get that a lot of others use the client just wanted to see if you knew why it might be flagged and automaticaly removed.

What antivirus software?  I have Sophos and it doesn't say anything derogatory about it.

I have Norton on the machine I play on.  Anyone else have this issue.

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March 02, 2014, 09:02:29 PM
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Stupid people ruin everything.
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March 02, 2014, 09:04:02 PM
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March 02, 2014, 09:27:16 PM
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Micon, I've always played on the web client and I looked into downloading the client today.  My anti virus flagged it as unsafe.  Do you know why this could be?  I get that a lot of others use the client just wanted to see if you knew why it might be flagged and automaticaly removed.

What antivirus software?  I have Sophos and it doesn't say anything derogatory about it.

I have Norton on the machine I play on.  Anyone else have this issue.

No. Never had an issue with AVG nor with MS Security Essentials.
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March 03, 2014, 01:27:42 AM
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In response to SealsDeals.info & the bet-bot in SwC chat being down, I would like make the following statements:

1)  I think the decision to do so was childish and unprofessional. 

2)  I am personally embarrassed that users have coins stuck in the "credit" part of bet, with only the following msg to explain when their funds will become available again: 
"If you sent chips to bet, or if bet owes you chips, don't worry, you'll get them in a day or two at worst."

In response to this, I have asked ST6 not to allow any withdraws from bet at this time. 

3) I hope very much that someone makes a competing staking site.  I make myself fully available to consult for free or post publicly my thoughts on trust systems and the other tricky parts. 

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March 03, 2014, 01:32:58 AM
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In response to SealsDeals.info & the bet-bot in SwC chat being down, I would like make the following statements:

1)  I think the decision to do so was childish and unprofessional. 

2)  I am personally embarrassed that users have coins stuck in the "credit" part of bet, with only the following msg to explain when their funds will become available again: 
"If you sent chips to bet, or if bet owes you chips, don't worry, you'll get them in a day or two at worst."

In response to this, I have asked ST6 not to allow any withdraws from bet at this time. 

3) I hope very much that someone makes a competing staking site.  I make myself fully available to consult for free or post publicly my thoughts on trust systems and the other tricky parts. 

Is WOT still operable?

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March 03, 2014, 02:04:02 AM
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In response to SealsDeals.info & the bet-bot in SwC chat being down, I would like make the following statements:

1)  I think the decision to do so was childish and unprofessional. 

2)  I am personally embarrassed that users have coins stuck in the "credit" part of bet, with only the following msg to explain when their funds will become available again: 
"If you sent chips to bet, or if bet owes you chips, don't worry, you'll get them in a day or two at worst."

In response to this, I have asked ST6 not to allow any withdraws from bet at this time. 

3) I hope very much that someone makes a competing staking site.  I make myself fully available to consult for free or post publicly my thoughts on trust systems and the other tricky parts. 

Is WOT still operable?



no.  the operators took the site offline with little warning. 

I am truly hoping another staking site comes up soon, this sudden shut down with customer funds in "Credit" area leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and while I want to stake people on SwC in MTTs I don't think i'll be using bet or sealsdeals anymore.

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March 03, 2014, 05:52:10 PM
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Looks like the few day social experiment was reconsidered as bet and seals deals is back up after feeling the wrath of the chairman . Grin
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March 03, 2014, 06:04:07 PM
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I'd ban them at least temporarily if I were in charge.  But I am a butt.   Grin

It's just not cool to mess with peoples money.  Especially at a time when BTC is under such stress...

What Sealsdeals did was break the trust of their users, plan and simple.  And then they had the gall to post a Gox style message "Dont worry...  we are gone, but your coins are all safe".

Micon was spot on.  Perhaps SWC will forgive this, but I think it was a ridiculously terrible thing to do.

On another note:
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March 03, 2014, 06:41:36 PM
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It's just not cool to mess with peoples money. 

What Sealsdeals did was break the trust of their users, plan and simple.  And then they had the gall to post a Gox style message "Dont worry...  we are gone, but your coins are all safe".


This is what pissed me off the most.  When it was down with that amateur hour msg, all I could think about were users with 800 chips on SwC and 100 of them in the bet bot #credit waiting to fire on their friends and associates' MTTs.  Bet going intentionally down and posting a Magicaltux-like msg on their site holding player coins made me physically sick.  I had to go AFK for a few hours yesterday so I didn't skype-tilt on glitch anymore.  That being said, a few statements:

1) glitch I was pissed off an unprofessional over Skype yesterday.  Sorry for the wall of anger.  I think it would have been better directed at Ender, but after he made the move to shut it off, he made a similarly cowardly move to be unreachable directly after.   Glitch is an asset to the bitcoin poker community.  He loves the shit as much as I do it seems.  #Brofist.

2) Even with SealsDeals back, I am still 100% available to help any team wishing to create something competing.  The SwC staking market is under no exclusive contract.  If someone builds something better I'm sure the community will vote with their feet.

3)  I believe an apology to the community is needed by Ender.  Regardless of what he hoped to accomplish by doing this, it was wrong, it pissed off players that pay coins to use SD, and did irreparable damage to Ender / SealsDeals integrity.  Now we know if we choose to use SealsDeals, they may simply without any technical reason take the site offline and hold our coins arbitrarily.  This is not the type of service I can see myself using in the future.  Too many unkowns for me.  I am personally going to withdraw all my coins from bet bot and stop using them.  Yes this will mean I'm no longer staking massively as I have been.  When a system I can trust comes along, I'll use it. 

4)  WoT - if you guys want a *real* WoT that you can T, then we need to start at square one.  All sites that do staking could use a crowd-sourced real WoT system that makes sense, not one that I can easily think of ways to game it instantly.  Let's start that discussion in a new, more productive thread

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March 03, 2014, 06:45:52 PM
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Not sure what all this stuff about bets and sealsdeals is, but one question:

Is it safe to still use SwC for poker? I'm not sure if this sealsdeals is run by the same people, I just want to play poker but am getting the feeling SwC is shady?

Please let me know.
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March 03, 2014, 06:52:36 PM
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Is it safe to still use SwC for poker?
Yes.
I'm not sure if this sealsdeals is run by the same people
No.
I just want to play poker but am getting the feeling SwC is shady?
No.

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March 03, 2014, 07:09:09 PM
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Not sure what all this stuff about bets and sealsdeals is, but one question:

Is it safe to still use SwC for poker? I'm not sure if this sealsdeals is run by the same people, I just want to play poker but am getting the feeling SwC is shady?

Please let me know.

SealsDeals is a 3rd party site that has a bot in lobby chat with the username:  bet

SwC itself has had no issues the past few days and is safe to play.  SwC is run by poker players put out of work from Black Friday.  We are a growing organization that has startup-like pains occasionally, but we have a 2+ year history of keeping the coins safe and processing withdraws in ~12 hours.  This thread and our 2+2 thread serve as an open book of how we have operated since inception.

Certainly there is risk in all things BTC at this point, but IMO SwC has been a pillar of transparency and proper operation.

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March 03, 2014, 07:09:31 PM
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Is it safe to still use SwC for poker?
Yes.
I'm not sure if this sealsdeals is run by the same people
No.
I just want to play poker but am getting the feeling SwC is shady?
No.

Thanks dude.

It's hard to know who to trust these days. I play on SwC often but saw some chatter and wanted to see what was up. Smiley
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March 04, 2014, 01:04:05 AM
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Now we know if we choose to use SealsDeals, they may simply without any technical reason take the site offline and hold our coins arbitrarily.

Yes.  In a Bitcoin world, you really only get one chance to be trusted, and they blew it.  I can put up with all manner of technical screw-ups and inadvertent problems when they don't impact trustworthiness.  Deliberately holding coins hostage out of spite, though, even for a few hours, is completely beyond the pale.
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March 04, 2014, 09:39:48 PM
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Last two days the seals client on desktop disconnects every 10-15 seconds, rendering play impossible.

On my android tab, only slightly better.  Extreme lag, lost 2 chips this morning to lag and not being able to see what was happening.  Helps?

Edit: I am using the new android client and the lastest desktop client for GNU/Linux.

I will now head to a coffee shop to verify that the problem isn't my home network (although other network services are fine so I don't suspect this.)

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March 04, 2014, 09:41:41 PM
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Last two days the seals client on desktop disconnects every 10-15 seconds, rendering play impossible.

On my android tab, only slightly better.  Extreme lag, lost 2 chips this morning to lag and not being able to see what was happening.  Helps?

I second that
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March 05, 2014, 01:30:07 AM
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Went to local coffee shop, all was working fine there.  Yet back at home connecting to seals is still unusable.  This just started a few days ago.  I don't know what's going on.  Can any devs at seals help?

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March 05, 2014, 06:06:58 AM
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Went to local coffee shop, all was working fine there.  Yet back at home connecting to seals is still unusable.  This just started a few days ago.  I don't know what's going on.  Can any devs at seals help?


Are you using the browser version or the desktop version or the mobile version? And if so which OS are you running it on?
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March 05, 2014, 08:34:05 AM
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Went to local coffee shop, all was working fine there.  Yet back at home connecting to seals is still unusable.  This just started a few days ago.  I don't know what's going on.  Can any devs at seals help?


Are you using the browser version or the desktop version or the mobile version? And if so which OS are you running it on?

How did you get a bigger signature?  My friend has activity higher than you and can't get a bigger signature.

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