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[donk4u]

1) If SWC pay players in top tier krillrolls more that they rake from them it doesn't make business sense. I don't know if that's the case.
That's why I ask SWC to take a look at it. I never said that loyal players should not be awarded, that's what rakeback is for, and yes, some freerolls. With that being said SWC should not be life time cash cow for players that don't play anymore, or buy accounts and rent them for krillrolls, for that reason inactive accounts should be excluded. Again I don't know how many accounts like this exist, but likely more that a few. SWC promo page say "The Krill promotion is subject to change"

2) Primary reasons for players to play on SWC still remain the same, SWC spotless pay out record, low rake, fairness etc.
but more immediate reward, than current krill system could be appropriate.
 SWC should consider something like monthly krillroll for anybody who earn certain amount krill in that month.
Of course to pay for that SWC would need to lower little bit the top tiers krillrolls price pool. Lol, I want hear reaction on that.

3) Judging from donk4u reaction, it seems I am correct,
    Here is summary his reasons :
     a) I don't play ring games so I have no right to suggest changes, if I earn 50 000 krill then I can make suggestions.
     b) he slaved to get the 50 k krill and had very little rakeback and other sites offer 27% rakeback.( he neglected to mention that those sites
         have 5% rake and most US facing sites don't offer rakeback any more.
     c) I am an idiot.
   The rest is just insults attempts because he cannot come up wit anything what make sense.
    non of it is really valid reason why current system shouldn't be adjusted.

This is my last post on this matter.

good go fuck yourself you don't play ring games so you shouldn't talk about something you have no investment in you fuck

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[donk4u]

luboski has contributed nothing to ring rake yet keeps talking about it over players who have something very wrong there lol. I think most of us know what the real deal is I have put luboski on ignore as is befitting a shill. 

[tspacepilot]

I worked my ass off for 1 year and 6 months grinding 24 seven to reach 50k and now im  a legacy kriller you double dipping throw your players under the bus cretin.

Is there such a thing as a "legacy" kriller?  Doesn't legacy imply that the system has changed and that the said legacy person is under the old system or is grandfathered in in some way?  Clarification?

[Pushtheghost]

Watching a player go on and on about how he sold his account and got banned got me thinking that some people are dumb and we need to have a rules section to point them to. Would kill all these weak arguments given when they are caught cheating or manipulating the system.

Changing tact and want to help this site grow in any way as I think the negative stance is just weakening the field.

Micon if you can get stickers I will hand them out at BTC Meetups and stick them near atm Locations and casinos in my neck of the woods.

[Micon]

Micon if you can get stickers I will hand them out at BTC Meetups and stick them near atm Locations and casinos in my neck of the woods.[/b]

I will send you stickers and hats and lighters.   

send address.

tyvm for playing SwC

[Shallow]

Wow, I've been dealt some of the shittest hands today. I'll take a break from SwC, hope I have better luck later.

Thanks micon for operating the reputable Bitcoin poker.

[Micon]

Wow, I've been dealt some of the shittest hands today. I'll take a break from SwC, hope I have better luck later.

Thanks micon for operating the reputable Bitcoin poker.

ST6 and I have worked our asses off the past few years to make SwC tick. 

Thanks for playing / variance is a motherfucker.

[donk4u]

Wow, I've been dealt some of the shittest hands today. I'll take a break from SwC, hope I have better luck later.

Thanks micon for operating the reputable Bitcoin poker.

ST6 and I have worked our asses off the past few years to make SwC tick.  

Thanks for playing / variance is a motherfucker.

Again lol! I worked my ass off stuffing money in your pockets playing 24 seven you worked your ass of spending my money that I slaved to get 50k krill and then 3 50k krills you  are going to run them less often and make them for less prizes Your never on the site I don't buy you working your ass off. Working your ass of thinking of ways to fuck your loyal players and put more money in your greedy pockets that I believe. When I was grinding non stop I told bluffin bully watch I will hit 50k krill and after all that effort they will take it away. Thanks for letting me slave  for a year and half  showing no gratitude whatsoever but rather taking a shit on me and others .  

How are you working your ass off when your never even on the site? I was a serf on your site working my ass of krilling non stop and this is how you repay me. Plus you ignoring all my posts way to reward loyalty.

[jjc326]

Wow, I've been dealt some of the shittest hands today. I'll take a break from SwC, hope I have better luck later.

Thanks micon for operating the reputable Bitcoin poker.

ST6 and I have worked our asses off the past few years to make SwC tick.  

Thanks for playing / variance is a motherfucker.

Again lol! I worked my ass off stuffing money in your pockets playing 24 seven you worked your ass of spending my money that I slaved to get 50k krill and then 3 50k krills you  are going to run them less often and make them for less prizes Your never on the site I don't buy you working your ass off. Working your ass of thinking of ways to fuck your loyal players and put more money in your greedy pockets that I believe. When I was grinding non stop I told bluffin bully watch I will hit 50k krill and after all that effort they will take it away. Thanks for letting me slave  for a year and half  showing no gratitude whatsoever but rather taking a shit on me and others .  

How are you working your ass off when your never even on the site? I was a serf on your site working my ass of krilling non stop and this is how you repay me.

What do you get for being a legacy kriller?  Did they give any notice that they'd be changing the terms for legacy krillers?  If not that would be BS...

[donk4u]

I got a big fucking cock for krilling 24 seven for 1 year and a half and keeping games going non stop at .10 and .20 plo  along with higher levels. That is exactly what I got, micons cock in my mouth best analogy and most appropriate one I can think of.  I made 50k krill in june after 1 and a half years of non stop krilling  for an unappreciative cretin. After killing myself to make it to 50k krill gets swept up from under my feet and some idiot luboski who  doesn't even play ring gets called upon to do micons bidding. Nice to see Micon thinks we are idiots with the Luboski ploy of his. Thanks for your appreciation micon.

[cAPSLOCK]

Is it just me or is Donk a wee little pissed?

[jjc326]

Is it just me or is Donk a wee little pissed?

Yeah...I was trying to ask what exactly happened but I can't figure it out.  I assume 50k krill used to be worth something but Seals changed that now the guy is pissed he's not getting his proper rewards?  If they did do something like that you gotta give a lot of advanced notice as it's not fair to people like donk.  Although he is not taking it well at all, or making his case...

[donk4u]

Is it just me or is Donk a wee little pissed?

Yeah...I was trying to ask what exactly happened but I can't figure it out.  I assume 50k krill used to be worth something but Seals changed that now the guy is pissed he's not getting his proper rewards?  If they did do something like that you gotta give a lot of advanced notice as it's not fair to people like donk.  Although he is not taking it well at all, or making his case...

Yeah I should just say oh that's cool all my hard work for naught ty micon like all the other ass kissers. Then after krilling like a serf I see micon say how he is working his ass off I have to laugh at the paradox of that. Speaking of giving advanced notice isn't it interesting how long time players like hahalol where able to sell their accounts at prime value before the cessation of krillrolls was announced.

[CustomChickenDelivery]

Speaking of giving advanced notice isn't it interesting how
long time players like hahalol where able to sell their accounts at prime
value before the cessation of krillrolls was announced.

Yup. He would appear to have impeccable timing. Any other high rollers bail?

[Micon]

Is it just me or is Donk a wee little pissed?

And I can't quite even discern over what - to the best I can tell, he is spreading misinformation about some sort of abrupt end to krillrolls that was never announced.  All still swirl around our lobby and will continue to do so until an official announcement is made otherwise.  I doubt that if we do change them in the future it would be an abrupt ending, more like tweaking - giving "this month krilled" incentives as well as the "all time krilled" system we are all so familiar with at this stage.

I suggested, simply thinking out loud, that SwC should move away from a system that tempts you to sell your SwC account.  I think donk4u took this to mean I am taking away all of his hard earned krill and using it to buy the Clippers and build my dream yacht with solid gold toilet like i have always wanted.  Nothing could be further from the truth - I don't even like NBA basketball.

[elm]

Is it just me or is Donk a wee little pissed?

Yeah...I was trying to ask what exactly happened but I can't figure it out.  I assume 50k krill used to be worth something but Seals changed that now the guy is pissed he's not getting his proper rewards?  If they did do something like that you gotta give a lot of advanced notice as it's not fair to people like donk.  Although he is not taking it well at all, or making his case...

Yeah I should just say oh that's cool all my hard work for naught ty micon like all the other ass kissers. Then after krilling like a serf I see micon say how he is working his ass off I have to laugh at the paradox of that. Speaking of giving advanced notice isn't it interesting how long time players like hahalol where able to sell their accounts at prime value before the cessation of krillrolls was announced.

can You please give us the link about the cessation of skrill rolls? thanks

[donk4u]

SWC should consider something like monthly krillroll for anybody who earn certain amount krill in that month.

I think this is where the "big money" in krillrolls should be, the "if you are top X krill earner this month" and do like 3 or 5 of them with top 10 krillers getting a multi-coin prize, top 50 getting a 1 coin prize, top 200 getting a small freeroll, so if you are top 10 you get access to all of them.   IMO still have legacy krillrolls, but make them for less prizes and make them less frequent.  

I'm going to discuss this with Glitch during our weekly pow-wow

Just add some god damn table at micro stakes
0.01/0.02 or  0.02/0.05 with normal rake would be nice.

This is going to happen, it is a matter of when.  SwC is being slow and careful with each step forward.  I understand from a player perspective this can be frustrating, but it is part of our "security first" policy that has so far kept everyone's bitcoin poker bankroll safe.  ST6 has always expressed that security is priority #1 and all feature requests or changes, even the ones that appear small, may just simply have to wait for the focus to always be on security.  the data IS money, so we go extremely slow.  

I further pledge to work my ass off towards the goal of offering a wide variety of fairly raked microstakes cash games & MTTs.

Cessation of krillrolls as we know them. The above statement sounds a like a hellova lot more then a TWEAK.  Where in the below am I spreading misinformation btw? I have been saying the bellow all along.  I really didn't appreciate the term legacy krill roll because it makes it seem as though  legacy krillers are no longer contributing to the site by playing ring. I have krilled from day 1 soley to get to 50k krill and the 2x a week or so krill rolls for x amount of chips. A lot of other people have done so also. I know this for a fact because at one point I bought danger account after about 3 or 4 months on the site. 55k krill was 57th place on all time krillers.  I sold the danger account back as soon as I bought it  as it wasn't as satisfying buying the account as it was  getting to the krill level myself.  One year later 52k krill is good for 197th place on all time krillers.

It took daily grinding with hours and hours of play almost every single day almost to get to 50k krill.  For Micon to say have legacy krillrolls but make them for LESS PRIZES and RUN them LESS FREQUENTLY is a slap in the face imo. It took blood and sweat to get to that 50k krill and to have krillrolls for less prizes and run less frequently is going to upset players. I certainly would not have invested all that time and effort to be labeled a legacy player and have krillrolls I had worked so hard for be diminished as Micon is planning to do. I got to play 3 50k krillroll since reaching 50k krill. Maybe they aren't being canceled but they are being severely diminished in VALUE. The value I and others provided through tireless play didn't reflect any sort of diminishment in terms of putting money into the site  as all or most of my rake came at todays high bitcoin  prices.

THe fact that 150 people surpassed Danger in krill rank  shows that the krill reward system is not broken. 150 people other then myself have worked hard for the site during the past 1 year plus. Don't take away that hard work and devalue it by devaluing the krillrolls we have worked hard to reach. Add krill races in addition to the krill rolls imo but don't devalue current krillrolls and run them less often. Players will krill hard toward the 50k as I have it should be hard to get there. I was told in arguments by glitch not everyone has 50k krill and it isn't fair to the new palyers.  I was a new player not long ago and I had to get from zero to 50k krill let the new players have the same challenge. I didn't complain oh its not fair that I don't get to play in the 50k krillrols  I krilled up to them to reap the reward like anyone else should have to.  Its fair for me  to have krilled non stop and shown loyalty to the site and have my efforts devalued by lowering the prizes and running LEGACY krillrolls less often?  I think not.

If selling accounts is the problem then put in the tos that players selling accounts if caught will have the accounts confiscated . Account selling would take a huge nosedive if this was put into tos. Devaluing current krillrolls is akin to countries saying that they are going to a new monetary system.. Its not fair to all the  poor people to have rich people who have gotten there thru hard work and sweat to have any have nots after all.

[notserp]

SWC should consider something like monthly krillroll for anybody who earn certain amount krill in that month.

I think this is where the "big money" in krillrolls should be, the "if you are top X krill earner this month" and do like 3 or 5 of them with top 10 krillers getting a multi-coin prize, top 50 getting a 1 coin prize, top 200 getting a small freeroll, so if you are top 10 you get access to all of them.   IMO still have legacy krillrolls, but make them for less prizes and make them less frequent.  

I'm going to discuss this with Glitch during our weekly pow-wow

Just add some god damn table at micro stakes
0.01/0.02 or  0.02/0.05 with normal rake would be nice.

This is going to happen, it is a matter of when.  SwC is being slow and careful with each step forward.  I understand from a player perspective this can be frustrating, but it is part of our "security first" policy that has so far kept everyone's bitcoin poker bankroll safe.  ST6 has always expressed that security is priority #1 and all feature requests or changes, even the ones that appear small, may just simply have to wait for the focus to always be on security.  the data IS money, so we go extremely slow.  

I further pledge to work my ass off towards the goal of offering a wide variety of fairly raked microstakes cash games & MTTs.

Cessation of krillrolls as we know them. Specifically the 25k and 50k krillrolls.  Where in the below am I spreading misinformation btw? I have been saying the bellow all along.  I really didn't appreciate the term legacy krill roll because it makes it seem as though  legacy krillers are no longer contributing to the site by playing ring. I have krilled from day 1 soley to get to 50k krill and the 2x a week or so krill rolls for x amount of chips. A lot of other people have done so also. I know this for a fact because at one point I bought danger account after about 3 or 4 months on the site. 55k krill was 57th place on all time krillers.  I sold the danger account back as soon as I bought it  as it wasn't as satisfying buying the account as it was  getting to the krill level myself.  One year later 52k krill is good for 197th place on all time krillers.

It took daily grinding with hours and hours of play almost every single day almost to get to 50k krill.  For Micon to say have legacy krillrolls but make them for LESS PRIZES and RUN them LESS FREQUENTLY is a slap in the face imo. It took blood and sweat to get to that 50k krill and to have krillrolls for less prizes and run less frequently is going to upset players. I certainly would not have invested all that time and effort to be labeled a legacy player and have krillrolls I had worked so hard for be diminished as Micon is planning to do. I got to play 3 50k krillroll since reaching 50k krill. Maybe they aren't being canceled but they are being severely diminished in VALUE. The value I and others provided through tireless play didn't reflect any sort of diminishment in terms of putting money into the site  as all or most of my rake came at todays high bitcoin  prices.

THe fact that 150 people surpassed Danger in krill rank  shows that the krill reward system is not broken. 150 people other then myself have worked hard for the site during the past 1 year plus. Don't take away that hard work and devalue it by devaluing the krillrolls we have worked hard to reach. Add krill races in addition to the krill rolls imo but don't devalue current krillrolls and run them less often. Players will krill hard toward the 50k as I have it should be hard to get there. I was told in arguments by glitch not everyone has 50k krill and it isn't fair to the new palyers.  I was a new player not long ago and I had to get from zero to 50k krill let the new players have the same challenge. I didn't complain oh its not fair that I don't get to play in the 50k krillrols  I krilled up to them to reap the reward like anyone else should have to.  Its fair for me  to have krilled non stop and shown loyalty to the site and have my efforts devalued by lowering the prizes and running LEGACY krillrolls less often?  I think not.

If selling accounts is the problem then put in the tos that players selling accounts if caught will have the accounts confiscated . Account selling would take a huge nosedive if this was put into tos. Devaluing current krillrolls is akin to countries saying that they are going to a new monetary system.. Its not fair to all the  poor people to have rich people who have gotten there thru hard work and sweat to have any have nots after all.

i felt exactly how donk feels when they did it the first time they lowered the krillroll payouts(but i kinda understand this btc shot up at that time) and made the tourneys run less.

[dave23]

SWC should consider something like monthly krillroll for anybody who earn certain amount krill in that month.

I think this is where the "big money" in krillrolls should be, the "if you are top X krill earner this month" and do like 3 or 5 of them with top 10 krillers getting a multi-coin prize, top 50 getting a 1 coin prize, top 200 getting a small freeroll, so if you are top 10 you get access to all of them.   IMO still have legacy krillrolls, but make them for less prizes and make them less frequent.  

I'm going to discuss this with Glitch during our weekly pow-wow

Just add some god damn table at micro stakes
0.01/0.02 or  0.02/0.05 with normal rake would be nice.

This is going to happen, it is a matter of when.  SwC is being slow and careful with each step forward.  I understand from a player perspective this can be frustrating, but it is part of our "security first" policy that has so far kept everyone's bitcoin poker bankroll safe.  ST6 has always expressed that security is priority #1 and all feature requests or changes, even the ones that appear small, may just simply have to wait for the focus to always be on security.  the data IS money, so we go extremely slow.  

I further pledge to work my ass off towards the goal of offering a wide variety of fairly raked microstakes cash games & MTTs.

Cessation of krillrolls as we know them. The above statement sounds a like a hellova lot more then a TWEAK.  Where in the below am I spreading misinformation btw? I have been saying the bellow all along.  I really didn't appreciate the term legacy krill roll because it makes it seem as though  legacy krillers are no longer contributing to the site by playing ring. I have krilled from day 1 soley to get to 50k krill and the 2x a week or so krill rolls for x amount of chips. A lot of other people have done so also. I know this for a fact because at one point I bought danger account after about 3 or 4 months on the site. 55k krill was 57th place on all time krillers.  I sold the danger account back as soon as I bought it  as it wasn't as satisfying buying the account as it was  getting to the krill level myself.  One year later 52k krill is good for 197th place on all time krillers.

It took daily grinding with hours and hours of play almost every single day almost to get to 50k krill.  For Micon to say have legacy krillrolls but make them for LESS PRIZES and RUN them LESS FREQUENTLY is a slap in the face imo. It took blood and sweat to get to that 50k krill and to have krillrolls for less prizes and run less frequently is going to upset players. I certainly would not have invested all that time and effort to be labeled a legacy player and have krillrolls I had worked so hard for be diminished as Micon is planning to do. I got to play 3 50k krillroll since reaching 50k krill. Maybe they aren't being canceled but they are being severely diminished in VALUE. The value I and others provided through tireless play didn't reflect any sort of diminishment in terms of putting money into the site  as all or most of my rake came at todays high bitcoin  prices.

THe fact that 150 people surpassed Danger in krill rank  shows that the krill reward system is not broken. 150 people other then myself have worked hard for the site during the past 1 year plus. Don't take away that hard work and devalue it by devaluing the krillrolls we have worked hard to reach. Add krill races in addition to the krill rolls imo but don't devalue current krillrolls and run them less often. Players will krill hard toward the 50k as I have it should be hard to get there. I was told in arguments by glitch not everyone has 50k krill and it isn't fair to the new palyers.  I was a new player not long ago and I had to get from zero to 50k krill let the new players have the same challenge. I didn't complain oh its not fair that I don't get to play in the 50k krillrols  I krilled up to them to reap the reward like anyone else should have to.  Its fair for me  to have krilled non stop and shown loyalty to the site and have my efforts devalued by lowering the prizes and running LEGACY krillrolls less often?  I think not.

If selling accounts is the problem then put in the tos that players selling accounts if caught will have the accounts confiscated . Account selling would take a huge nosedive if this was put into tos. Devaluing current krillrolls is akin to countries saying that they are going to a new monetary system.. Its not fair to all the  poor people to have rich people who have gotten there thru hard work and sweat to have any have nots after all.

If you are continuing to play ring every day, wouldn't you qualify for the "if you are top X krill earner this month"?

[snarlpill]

Just went to the site and listened to those music videos, Funny as Fuck! Also, clicked on Micon's Twitter and he seems like a cool dude; he RT'd a Terrence McKenna quote about psychedelics being illegal not for "our safety" but because the gov. doesn't want us to really open our eyes and see the different side of things. And I've known this for years, totally agree. Also tweeted about Gaza getting bombed and our gov. (the U.S.) never says shit then, all too true also sadly.

-snarlpill