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March 19, 2014, 10:25:06 PM
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nice troll attempt  Grin

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March 20, 2014, 01:33:28 AM
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2)  I would imagine a savvy degenerate (that busts in the first 1 or 2 levels) may find their way back in.  This may be something we must accept (from a player perspective I think its a great thing if a guy that just fired off the stack in level 1 re-enters) if we want to provide the utility to players that just missed the starting time and want action.  I think that utility far outweighs the unfairness of someone possibly re-entering.

Why not add re-entry for 15 minutes as well?
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March 20, 2014, 01:38:33 AM
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Are you people seriously concerned about "multi accounters" who only play on one name at a time?  You are afraid to play against people who are too stupid to cheat correctly?

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March 20, 2014, 03:33:56 AM
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Micon how do respond to some of the rumors floating around that your site is rigged to produce dramatic play scenarios to increase rake potential?
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March 20, 2014, 03:47:29 AM
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Micon how do respond to some of the rumors floating around that your site is rigged to produce dramatic play scenarios to increase rake potential?

learn to fold?
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March 20, 2014, 04:36:28 AM
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I have information on the real identity of chumlee420, the guy who's been scamming on seals since the beginning, and still is.

Name: Tony Bigcharles
Phone: 702-201-8006
Address: 7300 Pirates Cove, unit #1078 in Las Vegas, Nevada

If you appreciate this info, my btc address is 1A9535bJ6RqDuDB3dL8VEnEJmLQi8Po1kN

Oh, just some more information on this guy.

Lately he's been hanging around the Stratosphere and the V playing low limit games, and he keeps part of his money in his sock (LOL). He's been doing shady things on the internet for the last decade. He's been banned from part time poker, 2+2, AVP, numerous other forums. Did a lot of e-begging on the forums, and scammed some people as well (I know for a fact he's lied about how well he's done when given a stake in a cash game).
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March 20, 2014, 05:43:50 AM
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Are you people seriously concerned about "multi accounters" who only play on one name at a time?  You are afraid to play against people who are too stupid to cheat correctly?

Haha.  This is a good/funny point.  I don't really have any fear per se.  I just like to have all information available to me for all the decisions I make.  Including what games I play, and how I treat the players at the table.

IF the site adds things like late reg I am for talking about what that means.
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March 20, 2014, 06:00:08 AM
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Are you people seriously concerned about "multi accounters" who only play on one name at a time?  You are afraid to play against people who are too stupid to cheat correctly?

Haha.  This is a good/funny point.  I don't really have any fear per se.  I just like to have all information available to me for all the decisions I make.  Including what games I play, and how I treat the players at the table.

IF the site adds things like late reg I am for talking about what that means.

I understand what you're saying, but you guys are seeing monsters under the bed.  The equity that you stand to lose by people potentially busting out and entering under a different screen name is very very small compared to the equity that you stand to gain from extended registration times (assuming a majority of the tournaments are non-overlayed). 

It's just funny to see people pearl clutching over a hypothetical pseudo multi accounting potential (which maybe .5% of the players on the site would have the ability to turn into a +ev endeavor)...but nobody seems to give a shit about ACTUAL MTT multi accounting.

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March 20, 2014, 07:34:40 AM
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Micon how do respond to some of the rumors floating around that your site is rigged to produce dramatic play scenarios to increase rake potential?

You mean the same rumors that are floating around about every site?

If you don't know where you're going any road will get you there
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March 20, 2014, 07:55:57 AM
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"...dramatic play scenarios..."lol
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March 20, 2014, 02:39:32 PM
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Micon how do respond to some of the rumors floating around that your site is rigged to produce dramatic play scenarios to increase rake potential?


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March 20, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
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Micon how do respond to some of the rumors floating around that your site is rigged to produce dramatic play scenarios to increase rake potential?

You mean the same rumors that are floating around about every site?


One could make that argument i suppose.





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March 21, 2014, 05:04:32 PM
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i see one deep plo table but would be better if it was 200bb good start tho
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March 21, 2014, 05:06:48 PM
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Micon how do respond to some of the rumors floating around that your site is rigged to produce dramatic play scenarios to increase rake potential?




for you or the other guy???
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March 21, 2014, 05:23:56 PM
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Nice picture   Cheesy

Looks like the guy is working quite hard for that

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March 21, 2014, 06:35:20 PM
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Micon how do respond to some of the rumors floating around that your site is rigged to produce dramatic play scenarios to increase rake potential?




I think this means someone has an ax to grind.  Cute pic.  Maybe the guy has an axe to grinde against micone, dunno.

Not currently actively browsing this forum.  I do still respond to PMs though.
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March 21, 2014, 07:34:23 PM
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Lol nope was just asking a question, i personally love how seals is, because im used to it.
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March 21, 2014, 11:39:47 PM
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Micon how do respond to some of the rumors floating around that your site is rigged to produce dramatic play scenarios to increase rake potential?

I would say that is severely implausible for the following reasons:
1)  rigging the site in any way seems -EV long term.
2) "dramatic play scenarios" do not make poker more fun or produce more rake - in fact when you bust a player they no longer play - so if we were purely greedy, had 1000x Zuckerberg+ coders on meth ready to fire, and believed no one would ever notice, I supposed we'd deal everyone non-dramatic play scenarios as to keep everyone playing.  Of course this would be much harder to program / keep running / keep it consta-rigging than simply making a proper poker site.
3) I think it's clear to most that the way a site gets more rakes is to get more players.  That's always been my goal - to popularize the site and help make it super-fun to play.



Lol nope was just asking a question, i personally love how seals is, because im used to it.

There is a major logical fallacy in most users claiming highly complex rigging scenarios:  On one hand, they may say "that's the style of play I employ on this site, because, you know, it's rigged and shit, that type of stuff hits here" I have heard this paraphrased time and time again, when referring to live or online cardrooms, dealers, decks, shuffle-machines, you name it, I've heard a guy blame it for a losing hand of poker.

There is only 1 way to prove rigging:  science.   Every player can collect their own personal hole card data, flop data, and after 100k+ hands or so you can really see how close your distribution is to average.  You can see how many standard deviations off they are.   Hint:  A handful of independent entities have already done this. 

Outside of science terms, it's tough to argue "it's rigged for X's pleasure" debates.  We simply deal a fair game IMO.

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March 21, 2014, 11:43:24 PM
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♣ ♣ ♣ Serious MTT Soon ♣ ♣ ♣
in ~1.3 hrs there will be the

♣ ♣ ♣ Friday 4.20k GTD ♣ ♣ ♣

this overlay'd like a boss last week.  Over a bitcoin! 

While I would like to see my GTD's meet, the players would prolly take it either way - free coinage from SwC or a bigger prizepool.

190+10 is this one of our biggest buy-ins that we run each week.  Our best players show up for this one, as you can frequently bink off 1.5+ coins for 1st.  I want to get this one hot again, and if anyone has time, buy-in, or stack/structure feeback I'd like to hear it.  I'll be doing another round of MTT schedule changes soon, and I'm going to be messing with some structures, starting with our biggest and most serious MTTs like the Friday 4.2k GTD.

GLGLGLGLGL

#DontGetShutOut

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March 21, 2014, 11:57:39 PM
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Micon how do respond to some of the rumors floating around that your site is rigged to produce dramatic play scenarios to increase rake potential?

I would say that is severely implausible for the following reasons:
1)  rigging the site in any way seems -EV long term.
2) "dramatic play scenarios" do not make poker more fun or produce more rake - in fact when you bust a player they no longer play - so if we were purely greedy, had 1000x Zuckerberg+ coders on meth ready to fire, and believed no one would ever notice, I supposed we'd deal everyone non-dramatic play scenarios as to keep everyone playing.  Of course this would be much harder to program / keep running / keep it consta-rigging than simply making a proper poker site.
3) I think it's clear to most that the way a site gets more rakes is to get more players.  That's always been my goal - to popularize the site and help make it super-fun to play.



Lol nope was just asking a question, i personally love how seals is, because im used to it.

There is a major logical fallacy in most users claiming highly complex rigging scenarios:  On one hand, they may say "that's the style of play I employ on this site, because, you know, it's rigged and shit, that type of stuff hits here" I have heard this paraphrased time and time again, when referring to live or online cardrooms, dealers, decks, shuffle-machines, you name it, I've heard a guy blame it for a losing hand of poker.

There is only 1 way to prove rigging:  science.   Every player can collect their own personal hole card data, flop data, and after 100k+ hands or so you can really see how close your distribution is to average.  You can see how many standard deviations off they are.   Hint:  A handful of independent entities have already done this. 

Outside of science terms, it's tough to argue "it's rigged for X's pleasure" debates.  We simply deal a fair game IMO.



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