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retarget every 576 block may not be the best according to today standards (with huge miners and multipools coming to rape a coin, mining many easy block and then leaving the coin when the difficulty skyrockets), perhaps consider lowering it while it is still possible (maybe set the retarget to lower value from date like 14 days from today, thus giving people time to upgrade their wallets). 576 blocks (1 day) is not that bad, but if some multipool pumps the difficulty 10 times and leaves, that 1 day of blocks will need to be mined for 10 days by the rest of the miners - some of them possibly leaving and waiting for the diff to go back down again, so it will be even more than 10 days being stuck at some high difficulty.
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January 26, 2014, 11:11:36 PM |
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retarget every 576 block may not be the best according to today standards (with huge miners and multipools coming to rape a coin, mining many easy block and then leaving the coin when the difficulty skyrockets), perhaps consider lowering it while it is still possible (maybe set the retarget to lower value from date like 14 days from today, thus giving people time to upgrade their wallets). 576 blocks (1 day) is not that bad, but if some multipool pumps the difficulty 10 times and leaves, that 1 day of blocks will need to be mined for 10 days by the rest of the miners - some of them possibly leaving and waiting for the diff to go back down again, so it will be even more than 10 days being stuck at some high difficulty.
I definitely agree with you for the most part and I've thought quite a bit about this. Most of the coins having issues are scrypt-based right? So it's the same algorithm and thus it's easy to swap in and out of different coins for a site like middlecoin. However, xcoin is a new algorithm that takes a specialized client, so the people mining it must take some level of effort to set it up. Also, it even possible to setup a site like middlecoin for CPU coins with unique algorithms? You would technically have to have all of minerd versions for every algorithm on the client's computer and it would have to turn them on and off depending on which one it (the site) wanted to mine. It seems possible, but it definitely doesn't exist yet. So, while we had a huge rush in the beginning. I believe it should be a slow and steady rise from here on out. However, I could be wrong, who knows. In the case, I'll be more than willing to update the client and lower the retarget to 4 hours or something.
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January 26, 2014, 11:35:55 PM |
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retarget every 576 block may not be the best according to today standards (with huge miners and multipools coming to rape a coin, mining many easy block and then leaving the coin when the difficulty skyrockets), perhaps consider lowering it while it is still possible (maybe set the retarget to lower value from date like 14 days from today, thus giving people time to upgrade their wallets). 576 blocks (1 day) is not that bad, but if some multipool pumps the difficulty 10 times and leaves, that 1 day of blocks will need to be mined for 10 days by the rest of the miners - some of them possibly leaving and waiting for the diff to go back down again, so it will be even more than 10 days being stuck at some high difficulty.
I definitely agree with you for the most part and I've thought quite a bit about this. Most of the coins having issues are scrypt-based right? So it's the same algorithm and thus it's easy to swap in and out of different coins for a site like middlecoin. However, xcoin is a new algorithm that takes a specialized client, so the people mining it must take some level of effort to set it up. Also, it even possible to setup a site like middlecoin for CPU coins with unique algorithms? You would technically have to have all of minerd versions for every algorithm on the client's computer and it would have to turn them on and off depending on which one it (the site) wanted to mine. It seems possible, but it definitely doesn't exist yet. So, while we had a huge rush in the beginning. I believe it should be a slow and steady rise from here on out. However, I could be wrong, who knows. In the case, I'll be more than willing to update the client and lower the retarget to 4 hours or something. There will allways be the initial rush for new coming coins, but so far i actually think we should stick to the retarget we have.. just me 2 cents :-)
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January 27, 2014, 12:25:58 AM |
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hi,i like it
but the wallet is unavailable
The requested URL /v0.8.6.2-g6f1db53-beta.zip was not found on this server.
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January 27, 2014, 12:42:09 AM |
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hi,i like it
but the wallet is unavailable
The requested URL /v0.8.6.2-g6f1db53-beta.zip was not found on this server.
Here, try this link: http://www.xcoin.co/v0.8.6.2-gab58f24-beta.zip
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January 27, 2014, 01:26:44 AM |
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You're right, due to the algorithm being unique (at least for now), it cant' be picked by multipools with current protocol.
Though with relatively small change of protocol and some universal miner that can do several coin types (sha/scrypt/scrypt-jane/prime/quark/....) that would be possible, but as scrypt coins are now sort of majority in altcoins, I think it is not worth the effort for many to create such an universal miner.
It still leaves the coin a bit vulnerable to sudden spikes, like now. The diff is supposed to go from 6.1 to 0.7, pretty big downspike (because of the initial rush fading), but goes actually only to 1.5 because of maximal adjustment is 4-times larger or smaller. This leaves us with 2x supposed difficulty for 2 more days .... In the future there could be more spikes (if you publish a new cool feature or otherwise ignite some interest, people will rush in, mine until the diff skyrockets and then maybe many of them leaves once the hype fades, many of the rest leaving too when the coin becomes too hard to mine, leaving only the core miner stuck with difficulty 10-20 times of what it should be)
This coins has quite a potential for this due to new unique algorithms, so is could be easily hyped ... possibly hyped to death
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January 27, 2014, 02:49:08 AM |
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mining result how long to confirm at http://pool.xcoin.co/ the status always show Unconfirmed 
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January 27, 2014, 02:54:58 AM |
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It take 119 confirmations to confirm.
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January 27, 2014, 09:42:10 PM Last edit: January 27, 2014, 11:22:36 PM by blaaaaacksuit |
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Something weird going on with lottery mining, had been mining at a block for around two hours, block finally solved in which I had contributed around a fifth of all the shares including solving the block but didn't get a payout. nothing in unconfirmed, what gives?
edit: Nevermind, finally came through!
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January 27, 2014, 11:56:28 PM |
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Something weird going on with lottery mining, had been mining at a block for around two hours, block finally solved in which I had contributed around a fifth of all the shares including solving the block but didn't get a payout. nothing in unconfirmed, what gives?
edit: Nevermind, finally came through!
i had the payout cronjob run every 5 minutes, changed it to every 1 minute, so you should see it faster now
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January 28, 2014, 02:39:05 AM |
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Something weird going on with lottery mining, had been mining at a block for around two hours, block finally solved in which I had contributed around a fifth of all the shares including solving the block but didn't get a payout. nothing in unconfirmed, what gives?
edit: Nevermind, finally came through!
i had the payout cronjob run every 5 minutes, changed it to every 1 minute, so you should see it faster now been 5 blocks, many hours have past but haven't gotten any more payouts again.
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January 28, 2014, 04:31:37 AM |
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January 28, 2014, 05:43:42 AM Last edit: January 28, 2014, 05:54:46 AM by CHAOSiTEC |
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Something weird going on with lottery mining, had been mining at a block for around two hours, block finally solved in which I had contributed around a fifth of all the shares including solving the block but didn't get a payout. nothing in unconfirmed, what gives?
edit: Nevermind, finally came through!
i had the payout cronjob run every 5 minutes, changed it to every 1 minute, so you should see it faster now been 5 blocks, many hours have past but haven't gotten any more payouts again. cronjob got stuck... when that happens it will stop running, and i have to check up on it, then fix whatever is the problem, and do a forced run of it.. so that happens sometimes but everything is accounted for so when the script is run again it will make sure to credit you the correct amount.
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January 28, 2014, 09:32:32 AM |
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anyone selling pm me your offers!
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January 28, 2014, 03:53:55 PM |
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a week or so ago, I updated my Ubuntu to the latest, then set up mining and my other stuff, but it was unstable and finally crashed! LOL. So the last two days I've been doing a fresh install then reinstalling all my programs, ugh! Finally got it running (cross my fingers) smoothly! So anyone know how hard it is to get on coinwarz? LOL, I like to see the charts and see how difficult, etc... the coins are currently to mine! Well, today is the big LOTTERY at http://xco.lotterymining.com! You need to be actively mining to participate, so make sure you are! The money is rolling in steady now too! The jackpot is over 112 XCOBTW, I'm just a client who wants to see our pool grow, nothing more!
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January 28, 2014, 04:00:39 PM |
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LOL, oops, I'm slow  LOL Congratulations, blacksuit!!!!
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January 28, 2014, 04:02:13 PM |
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a week or so ago, I updated my Ubuntu to the latest, then set up mining and my other stuff, but it was unstable and finally crashed! LOL. So the last two days I've been doing a fresh install then reinstalling all my programs, ugh! Finally got it running (cross my fingers) smoothly! So anyone know how hard it is to get on coinwarz? LOL, I like to see the charts and see how difficult, etc... the coins are currently to mine! Well, today is the big LOTTERY at http://xco.lotterymining.com! You need to be actively mining to participate, so make sure you are! The money is rolling in steady now too! BTW, I'm just a client who wants to see our pool grow, nothing more! So, blacksuit was the winner...  i made a video on exactly how it was done, each person got 1 ticket per active day... the more ppl that mine, the bigger the lottery pool is going to be...
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January 28, 2014, 04:06:12 PM |
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trade it coinedup?
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January 28, 2014, 04:43:22 PM |
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Sweet! Totally like this lottery mining thing! Hey chaositec, if you haven't made the payout yet could you split my winnings among everyone who has been mining there for any reasonable length of time? Getting a pretty high hash rate for this pool and I feel like I'm already hogging the coins! 
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January 28, 2014, 05:06:28 PM |
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Sweet! Totally like this lottery mining thing! Hey chaositec, if you haven't made the payout yet could you split my winnings among everyone who has been mining there for any reasonable length of time? Getting a pretty high hash rate for this pool and I feel like I'm already hogging the coins!  i already send them, sorry... tomorrow im going to start paying out for those who have been active for a whole week (the 20xco)
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