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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9128678 times)
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February 09, 2014, 09:18:35 PM
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The state of the network

1.) We launch open source and hope we gain a good name in the community. If done correctly, all of the other coins will just be clones that don't add anything original. I would still be working on other functionality and improvements, so we'd always be ahead of the rest.

2.) We implement all of the unique technology as a closed source plugin. The plugin would be shipped separately and added to a folder to enable the privacy features, it would also work normally if it didn't find the plugin. This is how NVidia ships their closed source drivers for their video cards with linux.

Which should it be?

+1 for open source. Closing the source would hinder adoption because of limited usability (unless you are going to provide binaries for every possible OS) and limited trust (personally I would not use it if it's closed). IMHO people would clone this coin with binary plugin anyway, I don't see anything preventing them from doing so.

But we should first do something about the network being raped.

Totally disagree, it's like allowing all the alt coins to rape eduffield's work!  They will anyway in the end, but let his work gain recognition first before giving it all away!

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February 09, 2014, 09:20:07 PM
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The state of the network

1.) We launch open source and hope we gain a good name in the community. If done correctly, all of the other coins will just be clones that don't add anything original. I would still be working on other functionality and improvements, so we'd always be ahead of the rest.

2.) We implement all of the unique technology as a closed source plugin. The plugin would be shipped separately and added to a folder to enable the privacy features, it would also work normally if it didn't find the plugin. This is how NVidia ships their closed source drivers for their video cards with linux.

Which should it be?

+1 for open source. Closing the source would hinder adoption because of limited usability (unless you are going to provide binaries for every possible OS) and limited trust (personally I would not use it if it's closed). IMHO people would clone this coin with binary plugin anyway, I don't see anything preventing them from doing so.

But we should first do something about the network being raped.

Totally disagree, it's like allowing all the alt coins to rape eduffield's work!  They will anyway in the end, but let his work gain recognition first before giving it all away!

my thoughts too, else we end up with a load of crap coins and darkcoin is non the better off

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February 09, 2014, 09:20:25 PM
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Hello!
I install miner for DarkCoin on Xubuntu 13.04:
sudo -s
git clone https://github.com/ig0tik3d/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.2.git
cd darkcoin-cpuminer-1.2
./autogen.sh
bash: ./autogen.sh: Permission denied.
What's the problem?

use sudo before the argument, it gives you root permissions and also, use https://github.com/ig0tik3d/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.2.c.git as it runs much faster Smiley

Edit, fixed (I think, LOL)

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February 09, 2014, 09:22:00 PM
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Hello!
I install miner for DarkCoin on Xubuntu 13.04:
sudo -s
git clone https://github.com/ig0tik3d/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.2.git
cd darkcoin-cpuminer-1.2
./autogen.sh
bash: ./autogen.sh: Permission denied.
What's the problem?

use sudo before the argument, it gives you root permissions and also, use https://github.com/ig0tik3d/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.2.git as it runs much faster Smiley

lol your too slow :-)

he needed chmod +x and i told him to get 1.2c :-p

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February 09, 2014, 09:24:55 PM
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On source issue, why not open 95% of it?

Keep 5% secret sauce closed so it is faster for copycoins to wait for official unveiling of last 5% of source than to figure it out

As long as there is hard date of fully open source within 3 months (eternity in this biz), I think it will be fine. Darkcoin gets established and who is going to bother with copycoins after DRK is everywhere?

Also, I doubt any major exchange will list DRK unless it has quick path to fully open source

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February 09, 2014, 09:31:11 PM
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Pool admin should kick him out and make him spread the hashes to multiple pools.

Pool admin is getting a percentage, can't blame him if he's happy he got lucky...  Embarrassed

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February 09, 2014, 09:32:23 PM
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Pool admin should kick him out and make him spread the hashes to multiple pools.

Pool admin is getting a percentage, can't blame him if he's happy he got lucky...  Embarrassed

lets see, pool admin gets (unless he also donated) 1% so that would be aprox 320 coins from the whale (0.131200 BTC)

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February 09, 2014, 09:37:19 PM
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Open source will immediately kill the coin in my opinion.  How long would it take for all the other coins to implement this tech?  A day?  Especially if its a plugin.  I wish there was a way to keep the source closed but have it verified by well known and trusted people in the crypto community.  These people could vouch for the codes legitimacy.
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February 09, 2014, 09:40:25 PM
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The plugin source could be released with a license that forbids its use.
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February 09, 2014, 09:45:04 PM
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All litecoin-clones hasnt killed litecoin? Just put up an official release date a month ahead, in that month this coin will grow big enough to survive the future.
In meantime we can also start giveaways and such. (I wont be giving away any coins though, got less than a thousand  Grin)

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February 09, 2014, 09:49:38 PM
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Hello!
I install miner for DarkCoin on Xubuntu 13.04:
sudo -s
git clone https://github.com/ig0tik3d/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.2.git
cd darkcoin-cpuminer-1.2
./autogen.sh
bash: ./autogen.sh: Permission denied.
What's the problem?

use sudo before the argument, it gives you root permissions and also, use https://github.com/ig0tik3d/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.2.git as it runs much faster Smiley

lol your too slow :-)

he needed chmod +x and i told him to get 1.2c :-p

I know, I should just shut up, lol

DASHTalk forum = https://www.darkcointalk.org/forums/general-discussion.2/
r/Darkcoin = http://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/
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February 09, 2014, 09:52:25 PM
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Open source will immediately kill the coin in my opinion.  How long would it take for all the other coins to implement this tech?  A day?  Especially if its a plugin.  I wish there was a way to keep the source closed but have it verified by well known and trusted people in the crypto community.  These people could vouch for the codes legitimacy.

Yah, like Max Keiser  Grin

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r/Darkcoin = http://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/
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February 09, 2014, 09:52:33 PM
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I know, I should just shut up, lol

naaee, that wouldnt be fun, your comments are always welcome  :-)

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February 09, 2014, 09:52:46 PM
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All litecoin-clones hasnt killed litecoin? Just put up an official release date a month ahead, in that month this coin will grow big enough to survive the future.
In meantime we can also start giveaways and such. (I wont be giving away any coins though, got less than a thousand  Grin)

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February 09, 2014, 09:59:29 PM
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All litecoin-clones hasnt killed litecoin? Just put up an official release date a month ahead, in that month this coin will grow big enough to survive the future.
In meantime we can also start giveaways and such. (I wont be giving away any coins though, got less than a thousand  Grin)

the darkest of coins
I would actually have donated if I would have had more than a thousand, but now I feel kinda like Im already belonging to the lower class, and thereby are under no obligation to share. Tongue

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February 09, 2014, 10:00:32 PM
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Any word on Kimoto or something similar being implemented before we retarget. I have a feeling once difficulty drops the whale/whales will return.

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February 09, 2014, 10:27:26 PM
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All litecoin-clones hasnt killed litecoin? Just put up an official release date a month ahead, in that month this coin will grow big enough to survive the future.
In meantime we can also start giveaways and such. (I wont be giving away any coins though, got less than a thousand  Grin)

Please no giveaways.  This makes the coin community look desperate.  I think the price rise is publicity enough.
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February 09, 2014, 10:31:03 PM
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Any word on Kimoto or something similar being implemented before we retarget. I have a feeling once difficulty drops the whale/whales will return.

I'm thinking about implementing some changes to set a much lower retarget window, maybe 100 blocks. In opinions on this? I could implement kimoto but it seems like more of a project.

I'm thinking that 100 blocks is about 4 hours, so it would be not very fruitful for someone to jump on like the whale did and jump the difficulty.

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February 09, 2014, 10:33:27 PM
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Any word on Kimoto or something similar being implemented before we retarget. I have a feeling once difficulty drops the whale/whales will return.

I'm thinking about implementing some changes to set a much lower retarget window, maybe 100 blocks. In opinions on this? I could implement kimoto but it seems like more of a project.

I'm thinking that 100 blocks is about 4 hours, so it would be not very fruitful for someone to jump on like the whale did and jump the difficulty.

We are still on the same block hours after he left, how long would it take for us to get through 100 at this point?
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February 09, 2014, 10:35:43 PM
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Any word on Kimoto or something similar being implemented before we retarget. I have a feeling once difficulty drops the whale/whales will return.

I'm thinking about implementing some changes to set a much lower retarget window, maybe 100 blocks. In opinions on this? I could implement kimoto but it seems like more of a project.

I'm thinking that 100 blocks is about 4 hours, so it would be not very fruitful for someone to jump on like the whale did and jump the difficulty.

We are still on the same block hours after he left, how long would it take for us to get through 100 at this point?
we have done 3 blocks in the last 2 hours

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