[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[bigrcanada1]

Who's this asshat?!?

Just added another to my ignore list too.  Wow the jealousy is strong out there in crypto land.  You are right though... Do your research.  

Edit: But seriously the trolling on here now is third class rate... so sad

[110110101]

Some times ago there was a feature that did send the masternodes payments automatically to an another address.
Will it be available with the new release or is there plan to restore it in future?
Thanks

I've been thinking about setting up something like this but actually never came around to it.
Here's a couple of links that can guide you as to do this:

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/how-to-setup-masternode-donations.4730/
https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/master/doc/masternode_conf.md

Good luck!

[dafdaf]

usual envious babble

----> ignore

[balu]

Some times ago there was a feature that did send the masternodes payments automatically to an another address.
Will it be available with the new release or is there plan to restore it in future?
Thanks

I've been thinking about setting up something like this but actually never came around to it.
Here's a couple of links that can guide you as to do this:

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/how-to-setup-masternode-donations.4730/
https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/master/doc/masternode_conf.md

Good luck!

Afaik this feature is obsolete deprecated, and currently it's not possible. Maybe in 12.1 the feature will return, not sure about it though. If Udjin lurks around here he might be able to answer.

[UdjinM6]

Some times ago there was a feature that did send the masternodes payments automatically to an another address.
Will it be available with the new release or is there plan to restore it in future?
Thanks

I've been thinking about setting up something like this but actually never came around to it.
Here's a couple of links that can guide you as to do this:

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/how-to-setup-masternode-donations.4730/
https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/master/doc/masternode_conf.md

Good luck!

Afaik this feature is obsolete, and currently it's not possible. Maybe in 12.1 the feature will return, not sure about it though. If Udjin lurks around here he might be able to answer.

Yep, this thing is deprecated. NOT going to be implemented in 12.1 - we had issues with figuring out the right mn winner when donations were enabled which was causing forks. Mn winner detection was refactored and improved (hopefully) in 12.1, so let's see how new winner detection is going to perform on mainnet first and then _maybe_ we can try to get this feature back (not promising anything though).

[megges]

.... I just hate newbies being trapped ...

So explain to me how that trap works.

DASH is now 3 years old, in these 3 years we had exactly ONE DAY, in which the DASH price in $ was higher than it is right now!
(That one day was 5 jan 2017)

So how the hell could someone be getting trapped in these 3 years, every noob could have bought DASH at any day, besides that one, and would have been in profit by selling right now ... so how does that trap work?

(Source: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dash/)

[wackyD]

Is dash-news.de/dashtv/ not working at the moment?

[noobtrader]

Is dash-news.de/dashtv/ not working at the moment?

its working for me

[MasterMined710]

Is dash-news.de/dashtv/ not working at the moment?

its working for me

does not work on chrome. been down for hours. works on other browsers and on chrome in incognito mode, very strange 

[110110101]

Some times ago there was a feature that did send the masternodes payments automatically to an another address.
Will it be available with the new release or is there plan to restore it in future?
Thanks

I've been thinking about setting up something like this but actually never came around to it.
Here's a couple of links that can guide you as to do this:

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/how-to-setup-masternode-donations.4730/
https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/master/doc/masternode_conf.md

Good luck!

Afaik this feature is obsolete, and currently it's not possible. Maybe in 12.1 the feature will return, not sure about it though. If Udjin lurks around here he might be able to answer.

Yep, this thing is deprecated. NOT going to be implemented in 12.1 - we had issues with figuring out the right mn winner when donations were enabled which was causing forks. Mn winner detection was refactored and improved (hopefully) in 12.1, so let's see how new winner detection is going to perform on mainnet first and then _maybe_ we can try to get this feature back (not promising anything though).

Good I didn't go attempting to do this then
Thanks for clearing up the confusion, I guess manually transferring funds from the masternode payouts will have to do.

[110110101]

Is dash-news.de/dashtv/ not working at the moment?

its working for me

does not work on chrome. been down for hours. works on other browsers and on chrome in incognito mode, very strange 

It's working great here on Chrome and not in incognito mode. I've been checking the site several times this morning without problems.

[Stratosf43ric]

Hello cryptohunter or whoever you are today.

Looks like the only "trapped newbies" (other than your good self) are the ones who listened to this kind of bs year in year out.

instaminers...paid shills....massive attack vector

https://i.imgur.com/qvXJiFO.png

Oh so you try to counter-argument all the flaws i mentioned by showing a price graph? That could be a graph of any other scam like onecoin or from a ponzi. Didn´t expect much either, as there´s not much to rebate. You could just start pumping the USD, its strong against other currencies and dont see much difference vs Dash.

[Riseman]

...forgetting that Dash price does a full retrace after each pump.

1st pump = retraced to a 2500% gain level at its lowest point
2nd pump = full retrace that lasted all of 10 days
3rd pump = retraced to 100% gain level at its lowest point

It really depends from where do you count the price movements. I can see that it always loses 80-100% value that it gained during the previous pump. And seems like it's going to do it again. Yes, technically, every new retrace is a few thousand sats higher, months apart, thats's really very "slow and steady".

But I don't mean it is particularly wrong or bad. It is quite common. My point was that Dash is not special, it is manipulated the same way as any other crypto market. By the way, Monero, after it's "engineered exit pump bubble" burst, ended up 50% higher than before it and keeps climbing. Whereas Dash was back to square one after it's "natural adoption driven slow and steady rise".

I may be wrong, but I think the main reason for Dash USD value growth is BTC price growth. What really matters is DASH/BTC price. It had an inverse correlation until recently but seems like the MM changed his tactics and it actually followed the BTC price to some extent.

[Stratosf43ric]

I´ve had enough with this shitshow. I just hate newbies being trapped by this constant deception game by the instaminers and some paid shills.

The story of this coin from the very first days (big instamine continued by big reduction of coin supply) should just raise the first red flag.

Then created the Masternodes trap as to have an economic incentive to buy and hoard resulting in less coins in the market and apreciation in prize. It would be good if it actually improved privacy and not just create a massive attack vector to the governance and privacy workings of the now renamed Dash, especially when more than 90% of MNs are in VPS from third parties and probably there´s no more than 50 MN owners.

I was going to expand myself a little more but must leave...

Just stop it, i think you are hurting the crypto-space. There are many honest projects out there, just hope everyone does his/her research before supporting/investing in them.

Man. There is one coin without all "bad" things you named here. Onecoin.
And there are few more than 50 MN owners. Did you research? No.
And you can always compare "big instamine" with BTC ( 1 million coin ) and LTC's ( "mr. Lee sold his 400 000 LTC early "). And more than 90% of all coins.

ps. edited

Can you tell me the method avaliable to check the number of different owner masternodes? because i feel like it´s difficult to know...
I dont feel BTC was instamined, less even when those coins havent moved. No lies in the releasing make great difference. There will always be a crappier coin to which you can compare Dash and win, but there are also many honest coins around which you can support instead this one because its based only in marketing and lies to new uninformed investors.

Good luck anyway. Just remember 0.0165 and me if you wish to sell your stack of DigitaltrASH at that price again and you can´t.

[Terzo2]

These trolls are ruining the thread. It's nice how butt-hurt they are tho.   

[Stratosf43ric]

...forgetting that Dash price does a full retrace after each pump.

1st pump = retraced to a 2500% gain level at its lowest point
2nd pump = full retrace that lasted all of 10 days
3rd pump = retraced to 100% gain level at its lowest point

It really depends from where do you count the price movements. I can see that it always loses 80-100% value that it gained during the previous pump. And seems like it's going to do it again. Yes, technically, every new retrace is a few thousand sats higher, months apart, thats's really very "slow and steady".

But I don't mean it is particularly wrong or bad. It is quite common. My point was that Dash is not special, it is manipulated the same way as any other crypto market. By the way, Monero, after it's "engineered exit pump bubble" burst, ended up 50% higher than before it and keeps climbing. Whereas Dash was back to square one after it's "natural adoption driven slow and steady rise".

I may be wrong, but I think the main reason for Dash USD value growth is BTC price growth. What really matters is DASH/BTC price. It had an inverse correlation until recently but seems like the MM changed his tactics and it actually followed the BTC price to some extent.

They obviously know what matters is Dash/BTC price and not vs USD, but are trying to make noobs buy at an all time high dash/btc price (besides initial pump years ago). Another clear example of deception from a long term trash supporter.

[kointrend]

Some times ago there was a feature that did send the masternodes payments automatically to an another address.
Will it be available with the new release or is there plan to restore it in future?
Thanks

I've been thinking about setting up something like this but actually never came around to it.
Here's a couple of links that can guide you as to do this:

https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/how-to-setup-masternode-donations.4730/
https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/master/doc/masternode_conf.md

Good luck!

Afaik this feature is obsolete, and currently it's not possible. Maybe in 12.1 the feature will return, not sure about it though. If Udjin lurks around here he might be able to answer.

Yep, this thing is deprecated. NOT going to be implemented in 12.1 - we had issues with figuring out the right mn winner when donations were enabled which was causing forks. Mn winner detection was refactored and improved (hopefully) in 12.1, so let's see how new winner detection is going to perform on mainnet first and then _maybe_ we can try to get this feature back (not promising anything though).

Thanks for the answer.
I was just thinking would be useful, for security issues, get the payments available on another wallet than that of the nodes.

[toknormal]

Whereas Dash was back to square one after it's "natural adoption driven slow and steady rise".

Terms like "square one" are not exactly very quantitative. For a start I've no idea what chart range you're taking that from and, given that it's now a 3-year old coin, it has a load to choose from.

The most authentic long term indicator readily available on the crypo-charts might be the 21-week EMA, where there's no "going back to square one" indicated at any point in the coin's history.

Moreover, this is the least favourable measure - pure exchange rate per coin against bitcoin. (And so excludes relative marketcap growth and Bitcoin's growth against the dollar).

Marketcap against bitcoin is even more favourable, specially after BTC's halfing. Then exchange rate with the dollar is even more bullish again.

(This is all against a background of probably the least active year of the 3 in terms of news and fundamentals due to the intense amount of preparation work going on for the next major release).

[ddink8]

I seriously doubt the feds are going to be able to coerce view keys from transactions to put any links together.

They don't have to. The job's done for them by providing them with a nice neat "black hole" to stand guard over.

For crypto to work as money, it has to have a "face" in as many sectors of commercial and economic life as possible because one economic sector "levers" the value from another in a way that goods and services can't, being sector-specific. Thats what makes the $USD the criminal currency of choice - because it can be earned illicitly in one sector and pop-up somewhere completely differently to be spent on kids christmas presents.

The second thing is, as far as surveillance goes, no cryptocurrency networks (obfuscated or otherwise) tell you a thing about identities unless you're already in possession of significant off-chain information. That can only be gleaned from the entry and exit points to the coin supply - i.e. commercial trading, exchanges, wage earning etc. So if you create an unbacked monetary network that is entirely obfuscated then you're basically kissing goodbye your long term value proposition from widespread adoption on 3 counts:

1. all your boundary points will get regulated out of existence by virtue of tainting the entire network as a suspicious trading indicator

2. you'll end up getting used exclusively as a sector-specific payments system instead of a store of value which leaves you wide open to any competing technology that happens to provide the same service as yours does but cheaper, more conveniently or more reliably

and that's without even considering the biggest ticking-timebomb calamity of all...

3. Confidence. As I explained in this post, the whole point of the Satoshi transparent model was to 'fix' the one thing that has always prevented a trust-free decentralised token from taking hold and garnering real monetary value - public confidence and how to "not" puncture it. It's unlikely that bitcoin would have made it through all its various rollercoaster rides of the last 8 years IMO without complete and un compromised transparency. Gox, malleability crises, heists - you name it. Whether the Feds are crawling all over it isn’t the point. The point is it has the public crawling all over it every minute of every day which is why it remains robust in the face of rumours, scams and technology crises.

The reason why Dash’s privacy model is miles ahead of anything else is because it looked beyond the horizons of "technological obfuscation" and dealt with each of those 3 points independently.

All the cryptonote model does is deny those challenges even exist and bury the whole blockchain from sight. An exercise in nerd-wizardry but monetary gimmickry and not exactly an inspiring prospect. But then again as I’ve stated, that approach was never invented for defining trustless money anyway.

It was invented for carrying bank-backed credit money which is why obfuscation (encryption) was made the priority over authenticity.

^This.

In case the trolls are thinking "tl;dr" I'll summarise: The predominant thing Monero is used for is the darkweb drug trade, so all Monero transactions, however private, are suspect. Anybody who is known to own Monero is thus suspect. The vast majority of Dash transactions are for ordinary, legal goods and services. Our obfuscation is just as effective as Monero's, but since we aren't known as "that darkweb coin," holders of Dash are much less suspect.

[ddink8]

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The trolls are out in full force...must mean another leg up coming soon!