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September 06, 2018, 07:59:05 AM
Last edit: September 06, 2018, 08:16:35 AM by qwizzie

Let's LIBERATE the users/readers of the dash forums, NOW

Yes, lets liberate the Dash forums by re-directing unexspecting users to Monero created Dash "Uncensored" troll threads  Roll Eyes
Great job demo !! I suspect this is the Monero troll posting on multi-user demo16 account, hi Monero troll.

Trolls : they can't live with Dash and they can't live without Dash.  It must be pretty exhausting, to have a competitor's crypto-project like Dash constantly on your mind like this.

The ironic part of all these "uncensored" Dash threads, is that none are coming from the Dash community.
Thats rather telling.

For example it tells me that people referencing these Monero troll threads are really just tools.
Small insignificant little tools. Posting the same thinizzieg over and over and over. Maybe its a new tactic
from trolls : if nothing else works, just bore them to death.

I must confess though its working, i do feel kinda bored....  Undecided

Hey qwizzie....I think it's time we all ignore these guys. There are really only a couple of Montero trolls that we have a good idea who they are.  We've been discussing this indepth in a private chat room for a while now.   Its been a multi pronged attack vectors....with concentration being pointed towards community disruption.  I'll try to fill in more later ...but it's not going to get us anywhere publicly conversing with any of them and their personas.

Are they filling in for icebreaker while he's on holiday or something?

Looks like icebreaker's holiday is over, it must have been one of those short holidays.  Roll Eyes
I still feel bored though  Angry

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September 06, 2018, 08:26:33 AM

Ah yes...the bear market comes back and our pet troll is here trying to take credit.  

Fake News!

Icey and his lil monero brigade want to think they are creating descent in our dash community. Pathetic...What a bunch of clowns.




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September 06, 2018, 08:36:46 AM

Banking the unbanked is not a business plan. It's a charity. Does housing the homeless sound like a good business plan? if not, why are we dumping money into wealth-destroying regions with no history of respecting property rights?

MNOs are lousy bankers, backing failing project after project. Just pay for stuff AFTER we get it.  Why is this so hard to grasp?

I agree with this. Some efforts at adoption in Africa and Venezuela and so on is nice, especially larger remittance markets and also as a template for adoption elsewhere, but it  won't return the investment in terms of increasing Dash's value because these people don't have very much money.

If each person has just a few dollars, even tens of millions of them are fairly insignificant really.

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Banking the unbanked is not a business plan. It's a charity. Does housing the homeless sound like a good business plan? if not, why are we dumping money into wealth-destroying regions with no history of respecting property rights?

MNOs are lousy bankers, backing failing project after project. Just pay for stuff AFTER we get it.  Why is this so hard to grasp?

I agree with this. Some efforts at adoption in Africa and Venezuela and so on is nice, especially larger remittance markets and also as a template for adoption elsewhere, but it  won't return the investment in terms of increasing Dash's value because these people don't have very much money.

If each person has just a few dollars, even tens of millions of them are fairly insignificant really.

I disagree, billyboy's "pay for stuff after" will not work, when people dont have the money to setup their own projects. Projects will never come off the ground this way.
Only rich people can effort a "pay for stuff after" model.

What billyboy fails to grasp is that mainstream adoption is what our dev team is aiming for from the start. With mainstream adoption Dash will be used by
the millions as a fast, low costs, transaction provider. Mainstream adoption will make it easier for Dash to get positive news coverage, attract more users and
get integrated by more merchants. More transactions leads to more traded volume, leads to more adding by large exchanges (Coinbase, GDAX).
All of that will increase Dash value.

We are finally seeing the first signs of mainstream adoption in Venezuela and maybe also in Colombia, which to me indicates we are on the right track.
Dash Evolution (a very large and fundamental update, to be released Q4 this year) should amplify and fortify the mainstream adoption efforts for 2019 and beyond.
  

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September 06, 2018, 10:50:13 AM

 I never ever buy monero, not with fiat, not with bitcoin and definately not with Dash. I wouldnt recommend anyone here to trade Dash for Monero. If you are holding monero I would buy Dash preferably a masternode. Like icey did. But thats just my own view. If you zoom out a bit you can see Dash is still well up from lows against xmr.

When they were at parity there were monero goons on here bragging about how xmr would be much more valuable than dash. Dash then spiked up to as high as 1 dash = 6 xmr (monero) at one point.



But anyway, I'll go back to ignoring this trade pair since I have no desire to hold monero.
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September 06, 2018, 01:15:27 PM


Decred Cryptocurrency Gives Analysis of Dash


Richard Red who is a Decred contributor, the cryptocurrency aiming to establish a DAO (Decentralized Autonomous Organization), gave an analysis of the Dash DAO and how it can be applied to Decred’s efforts.

The post started off by describing the difference between ad hoc volunteer funding (Bitcoin and Monero), centralized funding (Ethereum Foundation, Zcash Electric Coin Company, or EOS with Block.one), and decentralized autonomous organizations (Dash). The author added how there are a couple other DAOs out there like PIVX, as well as some coins trying to move from centralized funding to DAOs such as Decred, Cardano, Horizen, and EOS. However, Richard Red stated that “Dash is the only one he knows of that’s been doing it for a while” and brings together traits of multiple categories.



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September 06, 2018, 04:57:51 PM

Since icebreaker became a masternode owner and the spirited way he entered the debate on how to spend treasury funds. Its impressive. Demo16 with his 0.1 dash that he owns and sadly no masternode. Not quite so well qualified to give an opinion.

But imagine giving all the funds to miners like monero does. That can be good too I suppose?

I had this idea that  icebreaker could use his masternode earnings to buy monero. Then when he has enough monero to buy a new masternode, buy dash. Then he could use those multiplied earnings to buy more monero. Until he wants another masternode.. Cool idea hey icey

Perhaps thats why he follows the DASH/XMR pair so avidly?
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September 06, 2018, 05:05:39 PM

I own no Monero.  I think Fluffypony is a pretentious pompous ass, but we have more than a few of those ourselves. Mainstream adoption means MAINSTREAM, not the poorest people we can find to set up some kind of experimental crypto utopia.

Venezuelans will always be poor as long as their government and private bandits steal their stuff. We might be able to help them keep SOME wealth, but not all of it. It is a drain of value for the foreseeable future. Charities are fine. Helping people is fine, but it's not a salvation for sinking market cap or market rank. It's not a ticket to mass adoption.

Entrepreneurs risk their time and capital all the time. It's a defining characteristic and they would work for us too if we weren't wasting all our treasury on making bets on projects that may or may not pay off. We are not even paying bills but we are making bets. Their is a name for people who do that: DEGENERATE GAMBLERS.


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I think Fluffypony is a pretentious pompous ass,

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Alt Thirty Six Releases Project Update Video


Alt Thirty Six (Alt36), the POS system geared towards cannabis companies in the United States and partnered with Dash, has released their August update via video.

In the video, Lauren Murphy, co-founder and president, touched on the conferences that they will be attending in the coming months, which has changed from a few months ago in order to better optimize their outreach to key influencers. She also discussed the regulatory and compliance environment that they are navigating, which includes the required applications for money transmitter licenses. Unfortunately, each money transmitter license has to be done state-by-state and can only be applied for one state at a time. However, they are also exploring a beta program by Washington State that allows their money transmitter license to be recognized by the other states in the program.



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September 06, 2018, 07:39:29 PM

I think Fluffypony is a pretentious pompous ass,

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edit: watch out billy boy, icey owns the conversation on this thread

He's never tried to censor my speech and he's never called me "billy boy", so he's got more class than you or the Dash Mafia as far as I'm concerned.

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I think Fluffypony is a pretentious pompous ass,

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edit: watch out billy boy, icey owns the conversation on this thread

He's never tried to censor my speech and he's never called me "billy boy", so he's got more class than you or the Dash Mafia as far as I'm concerned.

I'm ofended by your post.
Go play the victim somewhere else, this is bitcointalkshow where you can sometimes go to, when you're bored to see icehole doing his low-grade, low-paid job.
On the side note, if you want to have a good conversation, please visit our discord. Everyone is there as far as I'm concerned  Wink

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September 06, 2018, 08:51:54 PM

I think Fluffypony is a pretentious pompous ass,

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edit: watch out billy boy, icey owns the conversation on this thread

He's never tried to censor my speech and he's never called me "billy boy", so he's got more class than you or the Dash Mafia as far as I'm concerned.

I'm ofended by your post.
Go play the victim somewhere else, this is bitcointalkshow where you can sometimes go to, when you're bored to see icehole doing his low-grade, low-paid job.
On the side note, if you want to have a good conversation, please visit our discord. Everyone is there as far as I'm concerned  Wink

Your offense is my amusement. Your echo chamber can't protect you from the market.

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I think Fluffypony is a pretentious pompous ass,

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edit: watch out billy boy, icey owns the conversation on this thread

He's never tried to censor my speech and he's never called me "billy boy", so he's got more class than you or the Dash Mafia as far as I'm concerned.

icebreaker? class? Thats a good one. Haha I thought you were serious for a moment

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it  won't return the investment in terms of increasing Dash's value because these people don't have very much money.

If each person has just a few dollars, even tens of millions of them are fairly insignificant really.

I think you are missing the point to a capitalist economy in general.  Its not about serving the richest people in the world who have already made a fortune, it should really be about enabling growth especially in parts of the world where it is currently restricted or underserved for various reasons.

The majority of wealth in the world orbits around politics and military strength.   The very poorest people who you discard as insignificant importance have one important characteristic even the largest of companies and wealth cannot challenge which is the potential for growth.  The very smallest entities in an economy always represent the fastest possible growth and because there are millions of them this effect can be massive and game changing and justify all of that crypto network allowing them to proceed despite being normally disadvantaged in a world biased to the largest scales of economy

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Dash trading volume is increasing. If devs keep improving the src and solve scalability problem it will always remain one of the best coins to  hold
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September 06, 2018, 10:21:15 PM

it  won't return the investment in terms of increasing Dash's value because these people don't have very much money.

If each person has just a few dollars, even tens of millions of them are fairly insignificant really.

I think you are missing the point to a capitalist economy in general.  Its not about serving the richest people in the world who have already made a fortune, it should really be about enabling growth especially in parts of the world where it is currently restricted or underserved for various reasons.

The majority of wealth in the world orbits around politics and military strength.   The very poorest people who you discard as insignificant importance have one important characteristic even the largest of companies and wealth cannot challenge which is the potential for growth.  The very smallest entities in an economy always represent the fastest possible growth and because there are millions of them this effect can be massive and game changing and justify all of that crypto network allowing them to proceed despite being normally disadvantaged in a world biased to the largest scales of economy

No, YOU'RE missing the point. Capitalism is about managing capital. It's about rewarding the productive and punishing the unproductive. Not all, but many of the "underserved" are net leeches who consuming wealth. Not all rich people deserve their wealth and not all poor people deserve their poverty, but over time the productive get wealthier and the unproductive get poorer generally in a free economy. 

Those greedy capitalists are giving those poor people jobs, and it's their capital that makes the poor more productive, for the same reason a backhoe driver is more productive than a guy with a shovel. They did it because they saved (or somebody did) when others spent.

The Venezuelans and the Zimbabweans ELECTED those thieves originally because they only thaught the thief/politicians would steal from the rich. Well guess what? They stole from everybody they could. That's what thieves do, and it's hard to feel sorry for them as a group. SOME were unfairly punished, but punishing me when I saved doesn't mean more justice. It means less. You wanna fight poverty? Don't be poor. It's a great first step.

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I think Fluffypony is a pretentious pompous ass,

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edit: watch out billy boy, icey owns the conversation on this thread

He's never tried to censor my speech and he's never called me "billy boy", so he's got more class than you or the Dash Mafia as far as I'm concerned.

I'm ofended by your post.
Go play the victim somewhere else, this is bitcointalkshow where you can sometimes go to, when you're bored to see icehole doing his low-grade, low-paid job.
On the side note, if you want to have a good conversation, please visit our discord. Everyone is there as far as I'm concerned  Wink

Your offense is my amusement. Your echo chamber can't protect you from the market.

What? Stop please.
Btw sarcasm much?  Roll Eyes

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I think this is an interesting debate.

I think most of the crypto people are fom US and Europe. We all have tech instruction. Probably with a job and a stable life.

But for the people of Venezuela or Zimbabwe this is real. This crypto movement are affecting and improving his real day to day life.

We are witnessing the implementation of the cryto in real world. It's happening now in these countries.  And probably this poor countries will lead us (with all contradictions and problems) in our own crypto adoption.

I'm not here for my personal profit. I want the crypto to help and improve peoples lives. And i'm happy DASH is an important part of it.  

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